40 Replies Latest reply: Nov 22, 2010 12:55 PM by lorki3 RSS

PETITION!!! DO NOT NERF THE AK74!!!!!

cambay411
HELP ME OUT AK74 USERS!!!
  • Re: PETITION!!! DO NOT NERF THE AK74!!!!!
    XStraightXEdgeX
    If its too good then it should be nerfed, but I havent really had trouble against it, dosent really bother me
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    Chedbur
    I find the only real difference between the SMGs, is range. I can destroy any AK74u user at 'very short - short' range whereas they will kill me at 'short medium - medium' range. AK74u is just a decent all-round weapon, I use the MP5 for specialised CQB and the Galil for everything else. I'm only out-gunned by an Ak74u when they have the perfect range for it.

    I feel it is only popular, simply because it's popular. People see that lots of other people are using it, and automatically assume that it's the best. When really - there is no best SMG. AK74u does not need nerfing- at very close range any other SMG will win. At medium-long range, any assault rifle will win.
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    BradKane
    *Tumbleweed rolls past* They've got bigger issues to sort out before they even look at the guns, dude. Chill out.
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    therazor321
    I don't have a problem with it, but I have heard by many people that they consider it "overpowered" with two specific attachments.  Maybe they'll just "nurf" the attachments...
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    BradKane wrote:

     

    *Tumbleweed rolls past* They've got bigger issues to sort out before they even look at the guns, dude. Chill out.


    really ? well david  what ever his name is (cant rember at min)  has already tweeted  they are nurfing the ak74  and camando

    why they need nerfinf is simple and yes i use these guns alot myself but  still

    ak74u u can snipe somone with it across the other side of the map ( its an smg the range isnt ment to be that big  should have less range than an assult riffle) and no not by  burst firing it  fully autoing it  u can kill someone across map as  with some atachments theres no recoil

    cammando needs nerfig because its hipfire is rediculasly good, want  proff that camando is broken look up xcalazor  on youtube  81 and 6  on nuketown just hipfireing  camando the whole game

    to be honest though  they should be looking at all guns beeing  tweeked  u stick a silencer on any gun it has no recoil surly  that shouldnt work like that
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    fermit
    This gun is f&cking useless for me along with the 47. No hit markers, half a clip etc etc.
    I never use it.
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    Bombsofglory
    Nerf the gun.  No SMG should have noobtubes...ffs.
    It needs to have more recoil (aka less accuracy).  If you look at the 74 and 47 in real life, those guns can't be shot 2-3 times in a row, because they kick so badly.  Not saying they should be realistic, but damn, those guns are used way to much and they are way to easy to use for how powerful they are.  If you take a poll of players to see which gun they have been killed by the most, they will either say FAMAS or 74u.
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    s1mug
    its the mp40 in disguise.
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    beat_strandh
    no, dont nerf it. its a good gun overall but not OP. it loses against all assault rifles at range and close it loses against a couple of the SMGs
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    cool_guy_742

    bc-304daedalus wrote:

     

    BradKane wrote:

     

    *Tumbleweed rolls past* They've got bigger issues to sort out before they even look at the guns, dude. Chill out.


    really ? well david  what ever his name is (cant rember at min)  has already tweeted  they are nurfing the ak74  and camando

    why they need nerfinf is simple and yes i use these guns alot myself but  still

    ak74u u can snipe somone with it across the other side of the map ( its an smg the range isnt ment to be that big  should have less range than an assult riffle) and no not by  burst firing it  fully autoing it  u can kill someone across map as  with some atachments theres no recoil

    cammando needs nerfig because its hipfire is rediculasly good, want  proff that camando is broken look up xcalazor  on youtube  81 and 6  on nuketown just hipfireing  camando the whole game

    to be honest though  they should be looking at all guns beeing  tweeked  u stick a silencer on any gun it has no recoil surly  that shouldnt work like that


    WORK ON YOUR GRAMMAR, 12 YEAR OLD!
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    gabby09
    i say tweak it slightly so it isnt so widely used.  i dont want a repeat of the mp40.  its not terribly overpowered but a lot of players have gravitated to it already.  its too much like an assault rifle with a small hipfire spread.
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    how about a petition to nerf this freaking retarded petition threads.
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    chrisipitythefoolhughes
    noob toobing is such a *** word, get over yourself. if you get smashed by someones tactics then thats your fault. its just that your lazy and dont want to mix it up. you got to use tactics to win. define the word for me please? if i run about smashing you with an rpg, does that make it noobish, no it doesnt, it just means your not playing well and are unwilling to change so just complain about the winners. jog on ****
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    lawson466
    If they nerf the 74u - there won't be any reason to use any gun but an assault rifle.  The 74 is the only submachine gun that can hold it's own against the more powerful assult rifles.   All the other subs are just fun to use because of their novelty value.  But if you want to be a try hard - they are all outclassed by the assaults.

    Since they made the shottys and snipes unusable - why not take out the last sub machine gun as well?   They apparently want everyone to play only "their" way.  No sound - no snipes - no subs - no shottys.   Just use an assault - and move on to a better game when it comes out.  (or back to a better game until something else comes out).

    I'm really tired of the brain dead decisions 3arc are coming out with.   I wonder if it's the developers or the business people that are making these decisions.
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    TheShowStoppaa

    s1mug wrote:

     

    its the mp40 in disguise.




    the ump in disguise
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    Rattari
    It´s a medicore weapon for medicore players.
    Pretty useless without scavenger.
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    Yodajuice
    They shouldn't nerf it.  It shoots very slowely.  With Rapid Fire, it is all over the place without expert control.  It can't be combined with Rapid Fire and Grip.  Every gun has a plus and minus (except MAC-10 has only minuses LOL).
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    Pbjb989
    Out of the SMG's:
    - Has low, even recoil (even without the grip)
    - Above average damage
    - Good fire rate
    - Long clip
    - Most attachments

    This gun has no weakness and will dominate all other guns in it's class, as well as beating a lot of assault rifles at there own game. The fact that you're begging for it not to be nerfed pretty much backs up the idea that people are already using no other gun. (Just like MP40/UMP).
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    Yodajuice

    TheShowStoppaa wrote:

     

    s1mug wrote:

     

    its the mp40 in disguise.




    the ump in disguise



    Just because people use it a lot doesn't mean it is the best.  Someone gets comfortable or sees others using it (or dies a lot by it) and they buy it, use it, get comfortable with it. 

    I for one have 130k+ CP left at the end of a prestige now because I like a few weapons and don't need to buy every weapon every time.  This coupled with the fact that the longer you stick with one weapon the higher you get in the challenge progression before you prestige.
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    Pbjb989

    Yodajuice wrote:

     

    Just because people use it a lot doesn't mean it is the best.



    Having played WaW and MW2 to 10th prestige, I completely disagree. I can't remember the last CoD game in which the most used gun wasn't one of the best.
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    xxiphameouzz

    lawson466 wrote:

     

    If they nerf the 74u - there won't be any reason to use any gun but an assault rifle.  The 74 is the only submachine gun that can hold it's own against the more powerful assult rifles.   All the other subs are just fun to use because of their novelty value.  But if you want to be a try hard - they are all outclassed by the assaults.

    Since they made the shottys and snipes unusable - why not take out the last sub machine gun as well?   They apparently want everyone to play only "their" way.  No sound - no snipes - no subs - no shottys.   Just use an assault - and move on to a better game when it comes out.  (or back to a better game until something else comes out).

    I'm really tired of the brain dead decisions 3arc are coming out with.   I wonder if it's the developers or the business people that are making these decisions.




    agreed ! the one really good feature was to not allow killstreaks to add to a higher killstreak.. other than that the game doesnt seem balanced.. i would only use assault rifles in this game.. sniper rifles are tough to use.. good luck to all still trying to get some good gameplay.. shot guns r pretty pathetic in most game modes.. and sub machine guns are terrible when it comes to accuracy and recoil..exception for the ak74u.. nothing like that ump45 with the silencer.. oh how i miss some of the guns of mw2.. the intervention ...   anyways.. we always got next year

    they really restricted the game style of many players to a couple of options..
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    JakeDaSnake1980
    I think the AK74u is fine just the way it is! It is a highly mobile weapon and effective at short to medium ranges! Why on earth anyone would complain about this weapon being overpowered is at most laughable and at the least very sad. Obviously the people complaining about the power of this weapon are getting owned by others who are using it and rather than Treyarch NERF'ing this weapon they need to start handing out tampons and pacifiers to the crybabies complaining!
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    lawson466 wrote:

     

    If they nerf the 74u - there won't be any reason to use any gun but an assault rifle.  The 74 is the only submachine gun that can hold it's own against the more powerful assult rifles.   All the other subs are just fun to use because of their novelty value.  But if you want to be a try hard - they are all outclassed by the assaults.

    Since they made the shottys and snipes unusable - why not take out the last sub machine gun as well?   They apparently want everyone to play only "their" way.  No sound - no snipes - no subs - no shottys.   Just use an assault - and move on to a better game when it comes out.  (or back to a better game until something else comes out).

    I'm really tired of the brain dead decisions 3arc are coming out with.   I wonder if it's the developers or the business people that are making these decisions.



    The only thing you're correct about is sniping, everything else in your post is not correct. The shotgun is great but its a different play-style - you have to learn how to use it before bashing it and calling it useless. Every shotgun in this game is use-able (except for maybe the HS-10, i still haven't found a way to work that one properly), if you know how to use them. Just like you play differently with an SMG vs Assault Riffle vs Shotgun, you can't play the same with all three guns and expect to have the same results.

    The ak74u is not the only SMG worth using - personally i like the MPL, but, as I stated before, its a different play-style, as it is with all SMGs. The other guns are only "outclassed" my assault riffles if you use them as an assault riffle. If you use them as an SMG (close quarters, in your face) then you will beat out an assault riffle anytime - guaranteed.

    edit:

    The problem with the Ak74u is that it is good in both situations - close quarters and at range. That would be the only reason why they would look at nerfing it.
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    Crazywhiteman44

    bc-304daedalus wrote:

     

    BradKane wrote:

     

    *Tumbleweed rolls past* They've got bigger issues to sort out before they even look at the guns, dude. Chill out.


    really ? well david  what ever his name is (cant rember at min)  has already tweeted  they are nurfing the ak74  and camando

    why they need nerfinf is simple and yes i use these guns alot myself but  still

    ak74u u can snipe somone with it across the other side of the map ( its an smg the range isnt ment to be that big  should have less range than an assult riffle) and no not by  burst firing it  fully autoing it  u can kill someone across map as  with some atachments theres no recoil

    cammando needs nerfig because its hipfire is rediculasly good, want  proff that camando is broken look up xcalazor  on youtube  81 and 6  on nuketown just hipfireing  camando the whole game

    to be honest though  they should be looking at all guns beeing  tweeked  u stick a silencer on any gun it has no recoil surly  that shouldnt work like that


    You are obviously not 17+. You should enjoy your banning.

    On-Topic: The AK74-u it not overpowerd! It takes 3-4 shots like every other gun, tremendous amounts of recoil, and also say it with me; ONLY GOOD FOR CLOSE RANGE COMBAT
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    Crazywhiteman44

    bc-304daedalus wrote:

     

    BradKane wrote:

     

    *Tumbleweed rolls past* They've got bigger issues to sort out before they even look at the guns, dude. Chill out.


    really ? well david  what ever his name is (cant rember at min)  has already tweeted  they are nurfing the ak74  and camando

    why they need nerfinf is simple and yes i use these guns alot myself but  still

    ak74u u can snipe somone with it across the other side of the map ( its an smg the range isnt ment to be that big  should have less range than an assult riffle) and no not by  burst firing it  fully autoing it  u can kill someone across map as  with some atachments theres no recoil

    cammando needs nerfig because its hipfire is rediculasly good, want  proff that camando is broken look up xcalazor  on youtube  81 and 6  on nuketown just hipfireing  camando the whole game

    to be honest though  they should be looking at all guns beeing  tweeked  u stick a silencer on any gun it has no recoil surly  that shouldnt work like that


    You are obviously not 17+. You should enjoy your banning.

    On-Topic: The AK74-u it not overpowerd! It takes 3-4 shots like every other gun, tremendous amounts of recoil, and also say it with me; ONLY GOOD FOR CLOSE RANGE COMBAT.
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    Chedbur

    Pbjb989 wrote:

     

    Out of the SMG's:
    - Has low, even recoil (even without the grip)
    - Above average damage
    - Good fire rate
    - Long clip
    - Most attachments

    This gun has no weakness and will dominate all other guns in it's class, as well as beating a lot of assault rifles at there own game. The fact that you're begging for it not to be nerfed pretty much backs up the idea that people are already using no other gun. (Just like MP40/UMP).



    Correct me if i'm wrong, the AK74u has the lowest rate of fire. (Ignoring the stats).

    All of the SMGs are balanced, just because all of the stat blocks show high / low, that means nothing at all.

    At short range, any other SMG will out-gun AK74u users, I guarantee it. It however, will out-gun any other SMG at medium > long range.
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    traxxas58

    cambay411 wrote:

     

    HELP ME OUT AK74 USERS!!!



    this is sooo sad! NO, they should not 'nerf' any gun unless it it MASSIVELY overpowered, i have used the AK74 and hated it, now i used the FN FAL coz it is way more powerful.
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    ArekEZG_PS3
    Dont nerf it but stop using it all the time. I go to the match and if somebody using sub machine gun that is in 90% AK47U. WTF???
    You know who have to be nerfed??? You, you who use this overpowered crap. Take this game for fun.
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    suuky
    the only time i have trouble dealing with it is when it has rapid fire on.
    it seems to kill instantly, i dont even get a red screen for a nanosecond, just see him them he turns round as im shooting him with my 2 hit kill m60 and bam im just dead.
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    neoreaper
    the gun is there for everyone to use so how is it over powered? i have no problem with them. i know this because i use it. assualt rifles drop me more often than another ak74u
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    Death8u4u
    I'm so sick of all these "overpowered" posts...Nine out of ten of the people making these assumptions that a gun are overpowered thought the MP40 was overpowered.  Has any of you contemplated the fact that you might just suck at the game?  Quit blaming the fact you keep getting shot on the gun itself...it's probably YOU at fault.
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    suuky

    Death8u4u wrote:

     

    I'm so sick of all these "overpowered" posts...Nine out of ten of the people making these assumptions that a gun are overpowered thought the MP40 was overpowered.  Has any of you contemplated the fact that you might just suck at the game?  Quit blaming the fact you keep getting shot on the gun itself...it's probably YOU at fault.


    WTF?
    the mp40 WAS overpowered though.
    if you dont think so you used it and want to defend your actions.
    i dont complain about things being over powered because i get killed by them but because i use them and find myself needing to cleanse my soul after.
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    Darkeye300X
    Nerf it. It is like the UMP from Modern Warfare 2.
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    Death8u4u

    suuky wrote:

     


    WTF?
    the mp40 WAS overpowered though.
    if you dont think so you used it and want to defend your actions.
    i dont complain about things being over powered because i get killed by them but because i use them and find myself needing to cleanse my soul after.



    I used the MP40 long enough to unlock all the attachments for bonus experience...Other than that I stuck to the BAR, STG, and Type 100.  Never had a single issue competing with someone using the MP40.  Sure I got killed by it a lot, but that's obvious, a lot of people were using it so I'm bound to get killed by it at some point.  The fact remains that the BAR and STG can decimate the MP40 at medium to long ranges without a single problem.  The Type 100 will usually decimate the MP40 in close quarters as well.

    Same as the AK74u.  It's the glorified weapon of Black Ops.  You can pick up any given sub machine gun and decimate the AK74u in close quarters, while decimating the hell out of the AK74u at medium to long ranges with any given assault rifle.

    All these threads about overpowered look not to which gun is ACTUALLY overpowered but which gun is OVERUSED.  You people need to learn the difference between the two.
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    suuky

    Death8u4u wrote:

     

    suuky wrote:

     


    WTF?
    the mp40 WAS overpowered though.
    if you dont think so you used it and want to defend your actions.
    i dont complain about things being over powered because i get killed by them but because i use them and find myself needing to cleanse my soul after.



    I used the MP40 long enough to unlock all the attachments for bonus experience...Other than that I stuck to the BAR, STG, and Type 100.  Never had a single issue competing with someone using the MP40.  Sure I got killed by it a lot, but that's obvious, a lot of people were using it so I'm bound to get killed by it at some point.  The fact remains that the BAR and STG can decimate the MP40 at medium to long ranges without a single problem.  The Type 100 will usually decimate the MP40 in close quarters as well.

    Same as the AK74u.  It's the glorified weapon of Black Ops.  You can pick up any given sub machine gun and decimate the AK74u in close quarters, while decimating the hell out of the AK74u at medium to long ranges with any given assault rifle.

    All these threads about overpowered look not to which gun is ACTUALLY overpowered but which gun is OVERUSED.  You people need to learn the difference between the two.


    overused is just as bad as overpowered.
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    Death8u4u

    suuky wrote:

     


    overused is just as bad as overpowered.



    So we need to nerf a gun because it's favored the most?  Yeah, that's logical.  We'll be left with pistols being the best gun in the game, at which point they would then have to be nerfed because geniuses like yourself insist that any weapon that is used a lot needs to be nerfed.

    Maybe you should pick one of the following options:

    A.  Get over yourself.  You're going to get killed by a weapon, deal with it.

    B.  Get better at the game.

    C.  If you, which I highly doubt, REALLY use this weapon and think it's overpowered...QUIT USING IT.
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    hockster88
    They aren't going to get rid of a gun just because people get killed by it...think about how stupid that sounds. I use the gun, honestly, I wish it was as wonderful and powerful as the people complaining about them say they are. Point is, just because you get killed by a certain type of gun doesn't make it "overpowered" or "not fair"...it just means you need to get better and kill them first! Stop complaining, play the game, have fun.
  • Re: PETITION!!! DO NOT NERF THE AK74!!!!!
    lorki3
    Just wait until you unlock the spectre. There will be a nerf spectre thread.
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    Death8u4u

    lorki3 wrote:

     

    Just wait until you unlock the spectre. There will be a nerf spectre thread.



    Prefer the Kiparis personally.
  • Re: PETITION!!! DO NOT NERF THE AK74!!!!!
    lorki3
    Got to try it with grip. But the spectre is the only smg that was good with suppressor.