43 Replies Latest reply: Nov 28, 2011 1:14 PM by sml7285 RSS

Why this game is a disappointment

Snipingdbag

So played this game for 2 days now. After the honeymoon phase we can come to the conclusion this game is disappointment. In fact the dictionary should read mw3 under "disappointment"

 

The obvious and game ruining lag issues and hilarious spawns aside, because without it the game still would be a 6.5 max anyway, now it’s just shocking, literally too do to horrible frame rate issues this game has on ps3 a superior console to the 360 last time I checked, especially as host it's just stupid.

 

Here are some of the reasons why this Game Sucks to deliver the high expectations;

 

Number one on my list is the automatic guns; way too easy to use. Frustrating to vs. How do you beat a pre-adsing camper now? Flanking is the only thing you can do, you can literally never beat them head on, since these lasers beat you every time as they take no skill to handle and kill instantly, unless the dude was really that bad while you were just that quick or he had lag issues.

 

The guns are No fun to Master. No recoil is game ruining when nearly all the autos have good fire rates and a bit of extra damage (snipers, type95 and shotguns have SP even build in, shotguns as an attachment mind you). Why is kick even an option on Ars and smgs? it’s completely unfair and ruins the skill part of the game. A smg should have some actual recoil that’s the tried off for it being so good cqb up to mid range potentially. Now using smgs with rf & kick > rf beam cqb up to mid range, at least there is a tried off between range and kick for smgs. Ars should have to burst fire to be “l33t” mid to long range, now they are all easy to handle "lasers" with kick all over the field, using a sniper is just to look fancy or “qsing,” no real reason to use one above the mk14 for long range kills, especially on these maps.

 

Autos are way too easy to use. Kick should only be available on LMGs and even then the Acr aka noob cannon of the game needs to get more recoil, by actually getting some. Automatic guns need some recoil not next to any at all with kick on. Scar has little recoil without kick on even, fair enough as it does the least amount of damage per bullet, but the acr is a piss take even without Kick (less recoil than the scar overall) it’s a laser yet it does 45 per shot and 30 on range? Officially the noob cannon of the game. This is Catering to new players to the fullest, making the game less fun overall and more frustrating.

 

Maps; some good maps but the more “open” big maps favor window whoring and corner camping way, way too much. Maps were better, more diverse in mw2 and better in blops too imo overall. They also look "dull" overall.

 

Graphics; mw3 aka new advanced map pack for mw2. They had nearly 2 years and it’s the same game. Waw compared to black ops are two different beasts. Yes, 3arch worked on different timelines but even then it’s a joke compared to mw3 / mw2. Slack much?

 

The knife lunge: the knife shouldn’t have a knife lunge at all, this is beyond annoying. No commando perk, indeed we build it in & the perk part is changed into being an added proficiency if you like but really no need it's build in, it’s still in the game. It’s still beyond unfair and complete nonsense. Why did you move away from the cod4 knifing system? A shooter should be about gun skill, not free ohk knife / panic lunges, knifing should be about stealth, not free kills..

 

Point streak system is brilliant but stolen from homefront basically. The new point streak systems & per class option is great (was in homefront too I think mind you). These two are the best additions to the game. Support streaks promote an active playing style and point streaks promote playing the objective.

 

Theater mode; is simply shi-t in this game.

 

All in all

 

3arch > IW & all the shi-t studios IW needs to make an epic fail of a game.

 

Blops without SC pro > Beast of a game. Too bad that they have that perk and thus ruined a brilliant game. Oh and the Famas, the only gun that needs next to zero skill to handle while having smg fire rate ratings, superb accuracy and good damage with yes AR range. It basically was easier to use while killing 25 % faster than the other auto ars (bar the aug but that gun at least has some recoil), yeajh balance.

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    Couldn´t have said it any better. I agree with you in most parts. I only don´t like the killstreak system at all. It seems this was the last game I bought what belongs to CoD, and I played all of them, since CoD1.

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      Snipingdbag

      You find the assault streaks to be weak or support to easy to get? Personally I can''t bother with assault streaks. Reaper is a hitmarker machine and gets shot down quickly & the ac130 is clearly weaker than in mw2, makes the game more gun based which is fine by me. Specialist is nice to have to & you can switch at any given moment.

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        I don´t like the killstreak system in general. I´m all for bring back the old killstreak system like it was in CoD4 and W@W. Plain and simple 3/5/7.

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        mischaelite

        In MW2 Danger Close PRO did not only buff the explosives but most of the killstreaks as well. An ordinary Airstrike would cover 512" of the map but w DC PRO you got 712".

         

        So with the 105" cannon buffed 40% it is no wonder it was better.

         

        I realize now why I neeed to open more slots at prestige instead of bringing over guns and equipment.

        I am going to need specific strike setups for different maps, and the fastest and easiest way to do that fast is to have all 10 custom classes.

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    tedge

    not disagreeing with everything, but it seems the real acr has very little recoil.

     

    http://youtu.be/ZIlW1t2mgNc

     

    you would think it would be in the best interest of the people making the guns to try and remove as much recoil as possible.

     

     

    that being said, i am disappointed with this game for many reasons

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      Snipingdbag

      Fair enough, it can have little recoil but that in combo with the best damage overall compared to all other ars, makes it too good imo. In mw2 it was a laser too but it had less damage overall compared to the other ars.

       

      Ak47 should do 30 damage on range not the acr in this game as the 47 actually needs some control to drop people there. The acr is a constant 4 hit kill on range do to the 30 damage, compared to the 25 / 20 damage guns on range, they will need 4 or 5 ( in the 20s case) constantly at least while the acr Has virtually no recoil with more damge on range > constant 3 to 5 hit kill all over the place. The scar has more recoil (not much but more than the acr) while doing 35-20 damage. Fair? I think not.

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    Seriously your reasons for hating this game pretty goofy, no offense.  Recoil and knife lunge. You say "a shooter should about shooting", thats all this game is (run n gun).  Shouldn't modern warfare be about warfare n not just running around shooting stuff.  Don't get me wrong I dislike this game too.  They nerfed everything including commando pro which was one of best perks ever. 

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      esmorgue

      Commando was one the worst perks ever. Along with Marathon, Lightweight, Hardened, Ghost. Hardened, mainly because it was about useless.

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      Snipingdbag

      Yes, it should be about warfare too, that's why you have a shitload of pointstreaks to pick from. That and shooting is what it should be about. It is a shooter mainly thus should work like one.

       

      Yes, too bad they didn't keep commando (mlc knifing is win) and DC infinite tubes. Lmao This is rightfully gone for a reason, bar commando which for some reason is still in the game. How is commando an instant teleport ohk without any effort fair, especially after you put bullets into someone, it is not and never will be.

       

      Scavenger needs a buff, the explosives themselves don't need it at all.(tubes should be seen as an extra support on your weapon nothing more).

      I die constantly do to explosives. I don't use Blast shield people get me with random frags quite often and the c4 gets me constant double kills. They should not be seen as a primaries at all, especially noobtubes which is by far the cheapest ohk possible. If you have an actual good aim you would still enjoy the pro tubes and thus piss me off with them as they can still ohk.

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    The point sreak is too easy and abbusive.  In almost every match (Kill Confirmed to be exact) there were at least 3 stealth bombers and 2 EMP'S.  It's just too much.

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      The worst mode is Team Defender. You get a point every time you pick up the flag or kill the flag carrier. On top of that, the action is always xlustered around the flag anyway. People rack up massive points. Tehre are stealth bombers and EMPs over and over in that mdoe.

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    I disagree, although at least I could actually understand your post compared to some of the others on here. Personally I think Black Ops was terrible. Zombies was brilliant but multiplayer really just didn't feel fun for me. I love MW3 becuase it's the same feel as MW2. If it ain't broke. Don't fix it.

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      Silentcrisis wrote:

       

      I disagree, although at least I could actually understand your post compared to some of the others on here. Personally I think Black Ops was terrible. Zombies was brilliant but multiplayer really just didn't feel fun for me. I love MW3 becuase it's the same feel as MW2. If it ain't broke. Don't fix it.

      I agree I played MW2 for months and on Blops I bought all map packs (for Zombies) and only played online maybe a month don't even think it was that. I just couldnt get into it. So far I feel W@W was the best COD game and the one I played the longiest I'd still play it today if others would.

      As for MW3 other then lag I really don't have any issues since some say type95 is overpowered well use acr against it and vice versa. IMO I dont't find any gun overpowered yes little recoil but really none have much recoil so kind of no arguement their.

      If anything shotguns need alittle longer range since they are only good if right infront of an enemy but then the knife lunge will kill you first and the MG's need to be nerfed to be stronger as of now way..to underpowered.

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    WolfRidge

    I dont agree I think this game is improving all the time, gameplay has been much better for me lately and my stats have shown this, perks are fine and balanced I feel,  theres were always going to be issues as with any game at the start but i feel these are being ironed out gradually.

     

    With regards to connection lag issues I think players have their own responsibilty to find a combo/ settings that work for them rather than blaming the developer

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    I'am from sweden. my english might not be good but anyway.

    i realy agree with you.. there is no skillz in MW3, the perk's have no big impact one from another, In mw2 there was big difference between the perkz, perk slot 2..

    Cold-Blooded , Stopping power and lightweight, every perk can win over ther other, every one that played mw2 knows the diffrent and what impact it has on the game.

     

    in mw3 perk slot 2. there is only one perk that over win them all Assassin, there is no perk that can out win this one. and there for many of the pointstreks are useless all because of the assassin perk, and everyone use it and ther is no perk that wins over assassin. once again mw3 is **** in every aspect

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      WolfRidge

      Why dont you learn to shoot effectively rather than crying about perk slots ?

       

      Maybe your gun skills could beat Assassin,  then again probably not..  Crybaby

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        Black ops and mw3.. is the only COD games u have played`?

        my KD/R is 3.05 in mw3 and 2.75 in mw2 over 200.000 kills... so yeah i don't care if u use assassin, but spray with assault weapon from one side of the map and hit all bullets in one singel place very noob style.. there for mw3 is for noobs that can't handle guns, if you spray in mw2 in long range u hit first bullet maybe 2 bullets. thats it..

        My friend i have played all the COD games.. have them all in ps3, from COD classic to mw3,

        and the 2 worst games are B-Ops and mw3

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          WolfRidge

          ninja-4-ever wrote:

           

          Black ops and mw3.. is the only COD games u have played`?

          my KD/R is 3.05 in mw3 and 2.75 in mw2 over 200.000 kills... so yeah i don't care if u use assassin, but spray with assault weapon from one side of the map and hit all bullets in one singel place very noob style.. there for mw3 is for noobs that can't handle guns, if you spray in mw2 in long range u hit first bullet maybe 2 bullets. thats it..

          My friend i have played all the COD games.. have them all in ps3, from COD classic to mw3,

          and the 2 worst games are B-Ops and mw3

           

          Dude I have been playing COD since PS2 days, Big Red One, I have played all CODS since then.  I may not have amazing stats ( they're pretty good) but that's because they're genuine.

           

          Have you ever used assassin?

           

          Either play or dont play. but please, please stop *******

           

           

          There is a ninja-4-ever on elite and they have assassin in 6 of their 7 perk slots?  is that you??

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        Why would you hate on somebody voicing their opinion? I don't understand if it's in the game it's ment to be used.

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    OK, before everyone starts ranting and sh*t, here are some facts:

    Fact: Activision originally gave IW 24 months to make MW3, as with any CoD.
    Fact: West and Zampella decided to be greedy b*stards and f*cked up Infinity Ward.

    Fact: Activision suied the two b*stards. It took over a year for the mess to be cleaned up, during which IW was crippled.

    Fact: In the end, a ravaged IW was left with 9 months to make MW3.

    Fact: This year, Sledgehammer was supposed to reveal their action-adventure CoD.

    Fact: IW needed help making MW3, so Sledge put aside their game to help IW finish MW3 this year.

    Fact: 9 months is definitely not enough time to make a new CoD, and despite two companies are working on it one (IW) is practically non-existant in the time of development.

    Fact: The game therefore is incomplete and full of bugs.

    Fact: IW-SH is aware of the bugs, and are hard at work patching them to ensure a good CoD experience.

     

     

     

    So give them time, it's not IW or SH's fault that MW3 is so broken, it's mainly West, Zampella, and Activision, and their stupid g*y lawsuit.

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      @cryo70

      your entire post is garbage ,west and zampella were not the greedy ones activision were ,they were limiting IW progression with the modern warfare franchise and rightly so they decided to leave .

      Mw3 is crap because there is about 5 people left from the real IW and sledgehammer are new kids on the block.

      Treyarch are the better of the two now ,roll on black ops 2

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        esmorgue

        Why would you think there is going to be a Black Poo 2?

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          Why would you think black ops was poo,from what i see there are around 350,000 on ps3 at any given time atm.8 months into bops there were still 400-500k everynite,They cant all be wrong mate

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            esmorgue

            How many people do something isnt a matter of right or wrong. 10s of millions smoke cigarettes, but that soesnt make it right or good. That game was a complete disaster from the beginning to end.

             

            Also alot will go back and play a game where they are used to using one class setup for every match. Not having to actually work to level up, earn perk, attachment, KS. Easy mode.

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              still dont know what you mean by disaster ,it obviously wasnt .you say theatre mode caused lag ,i agree but i also think its adding problems to mw3 aswell.

              Also why is it so hard to spot people on this game ,there are so many points for people to go behind and all you can see is the top of their heads.

              Im a good cod player 2.4 k/d on mw3 .But i seriously am not enjoying it.

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      no skill O_o

       

      with all the crap in the way on most maps its not simple AIM SHOOT!

       

      if this game was that easy, how often do you go 10 - 0 or 15 - 0......

       

      but then again i do agree with you if the game is still having issues for you, i know my system the 1.05 patch has helped alot....... but the game still require some degree of skill....

       

      the acr i think is great accuracy but i think the fire rate kills you

       

      most of the AR guns are accurate, but low damage, the CMD whatever is strong but the accuracy is a lil lower and slower fire rate so it kinda messes with you

       

      now the TYPE ouchie that gun is a lil OP and honestly i think IW will change that gun..... the may change the time between each 3 shots.. cause in this game, 3 bullets usually kil you, and with the type it shoots 3 accurate bullets to fast haha.......

       

      anywho,

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    This can be all summarized in two words: YOU SUCK! and that's about it. I play everyday with a 1.3 K/d Ratio and I have some times 35-5, sometimes 15-4. So Just stop crying, sell it on ebay, and don't post dumb crap.

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      Snipingdbag

      My w/l as a solo player mainly is higher than your k/d ratio overall and for that you need to sacrifice blood and play good constantly, get man of the match constantly & even then you can easily lose if on a very bad team or a team full with campers / killwhores who ignore the objective. I don't think I'll keep it up but I'm happy as long as it stays positive.

       

      K/d is only a decent skill indication if you play the objective first constantly & have an active playing style, otherwise it’s just something killwhores and campers wank over in the meantime ruining the game. Everybody who needs to Say what his k/d is, is probably a killwhoring or camping douche more than anything in this game.

       

      Playing yesterday night, I came to the following conclusions; game plays smoother at night / at irregulars times. Makes sense > less people online in your time zone but enough to find people with good pings nearby you > means less overloaded servers In your region I guess. It was fun playing the game without hit register & lag fuckin up one on ones constantly for hours and hours without problems.

       

      Mwehe, they nerfed Jugg. One launcher and I’m dead now. Less than a full clip > dead now. Also people are try to semtex stick you way more now with jugg on. (One stick & you’r dead). You get Jugg, you die instantly now it seems if not using the riot shield enough and even then people just stick you. Fair enough on the support Jugg, but the assault Jugg needs to be beast and not die so quickly do to semtex and rpgs and bullets. Not using support a lot anymore do to this recent event.

       

      Sniping / scoping in this game when it’s lag free like this is epic in one word. Constant quick ohks. I would recommend starting off with assassin and using specialist perks, means you get quickdraw and assassin constantly, which on a sniper class means win. Too bad the game only has 2 maybe 3 decent sniper maps basically. Which promotes “qsing” too much. Annoyed at qsing? Blame IW they made most maps favor cqb battles & enabled quickdraw on snipers, which would not be needed if they game had more open maps. (At least not this quickly on snipers).

       

      The game is obviously a lot more fun without constant lag / stuttering, It deserves more credit than what I gave it. The map design is pretty bad though overall (most maps are fun imo but less strategic / diverse than in previous cods, to easy to head glitch in too) and the guns remain 7 year old and older material.

       

      In the end cod is about who sees who first, who has the better cover / positioning and who “aims” quicker 7 more accurately & who has the better connection at that point. Not much has changed, bar that the aiming part takes less skill.

       

      I would give the game a 7.5 without lag / host issues / frame rate issues.

       

      They should buff scavenger to recycle everything but noobtubes / betties / claymores constantly, these maybe too after every 5th bag you stay alive & pick up. (Otherwise camping gets as easy as stealing candy from a baby again). Would see more of blast shield & less of Assassin & less of blind eye with a good scavenger perk > is more open game. Now there is little reason to no use Assassin & blind eye on at least half of your classes. Other perks are just not as good.

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    To Be Honest do we all think this game can improve ?

     

    Map's = way to small & congested..

     

    Party's = way to much lag on the player with the fastest connection in "that party"..

     

    Hosting = way to much lag in the game which become's a death sentance & my connection is 37dn/7up with 13ms ping but i get penilised..

     

    Perks = Everybody uses Assassin like we all used Stopping Power..

     

    Gun's = QS Glitch Sniping is way to easy to use & is a Majority Noob class that is plain & simply annoying now...(built for kids)

     

    Strike packages = specalist is good,assault is good,support is total WEAK that rewards rubbish players with killstreaks that arnt even used for objectives game types solely..

     

    Frame Rate = always terrible on the PS3 Compared to Xbox.. why yet again ?

     

    LAG = why do i get killed with 1 bullet when i pump a complete clip into the enemy..only to see on the killcam i have been shot at way before i can actually see this happening..? Also the LAG changes from half good to terrible at different times of day all day long..

     

    Drop Crates = if i get a 4 kill streak but dont use the crate..i lose it if i get another 1..wtf..?

     

    Juggernault = 18 kills to get it but its rubbish,the assault m60 is crap especially as the m60 is weak & underpowered.. the support juggernault is also weak that when using is to slow and showing the juggernaults on the mini map is pointless and a death sentance..

     

    EMP = please take it off the support strike package as this is becoming overused..

     

    Support From Infinity Ward = there is'nt any, plus none of us are really kept informed other then the odd occasional tweet now the game has been sold..

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    I guess we can all agree that Mw2 and Mw were the best out of the whole of this " Cod" series Black ops got draining after you hit a 15th we were all in it just for the gold guns. But if anything I guess everyone return to the game that I personally think had everything worked out and that was Mw2. Also credit to IW after all they've been through but managed to put up a pretty good game. Activision i reckon are in it for the money and should have given IW more time to put up a better game.

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    Its a shame you put up with all the lag hosting and not haveing a chance. Today i myself have not been getting credit for my kills it takes fourteen kills for the stealth bomber i got it in two different games the got my uav in one game and ballistic vest in the other but my kills in the scoreboard at the end of the game said nine and ten. It does not take a mathmatical genius to figure out this is wrong i usually dont pay much attention to the stats so i wonder how often this happens? I am extremely disappointed two call of duties in a row thats unplayable for the lag for a lot of people.

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    I'm finding cod in general now to be a bit boring.  It's the same every time. A boring grind to a level. And once you get to the level, you don't get anything special.

     

    Games are supposed to be fun, but with mw3 it more about frustration more than anything.  No matter how hard you try, you will likely leave the game frustrated. 

     

    I used to prodominally play fps and racing games, but I have discovered a love for RPGs like fallout 3 and skyrim. Everytime you play one of these games it's different. And it's way more enjoyable.

     

    Another problem with cod is the lack of pride in the developers work.  Look at games like gt5.  The president of the dev team is crazy about cars. He had to release the game after 5 years of developing because Sony told him to.  Cod needs that kind of drive in the company.

     

     

     

    They get away with cookie cutter games, because they sell to the masses, and since a lot of people are brain dead sheep who will buy anything because of a cool trailer, they make billions. A good example of this is how they brain washed people into thinking 60fps is the end all be all of frame rates and they couldn't put it 3D because of performance.  BS more graphically intense games like gt5 has 3D, they are just too lazy to code in 3D support.

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      nickzombie wrote:

       

      I'm finding cod in general now to be a bit boring.  It's the same every time. A boring grind to a level. And once you get to the level, you don't get anything special.

       

      Games are supposed to be fun, but with mw3 it more about frustration more than anything.  No matter how hard you try, you will likely leave the game frustrated. 

       

      I used to prodominally play fps and racing games, but I have discovered a love for RPGs like fallout 3 and skyrim. Everytime you play one of these games it's different. And it's way more enjoyable.

       

      Another problem with cod is the lack of pride in the developers work.  Look at games like gt5.  The president of the dev team is crazy about cars. He had to release the game after 5 years of developing because Sony told him to.  Cod needs that kind of drive in the company.

       

       

       

      They get away with cookie cutter games, because they sell to the masses, and since a lot of people are brain dead sheep who will buy anything because of a cool trailer, they make billions. A good example of this is how they brain washed people into thinking 60fps is the end all be all of frame rates and they couldn't put it 3D because of performance.  BS more graphically intense games like gt5 has 3D, they are just too lazy to code in 3D support.

       

      Nick you should check out Chrono Trigger and FF6 on the PSN store. I've been an rpg nerd since the SNES days and honestly, recent RPG's aren't as interesting to me as the old school ones (The new ones sacrifice story for longevity in my opinion.)

       

      Chrono Trigger is the best RPG ever created. Hands down. I've played through it so much that my SNES at home won't even read the cartridge anymore.

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      Very well said man. Especially...

       

      Games are supposed to be fun, but with mw3 it more about frustration more than anything.  No matter how hard you try, you will likely leave the game frustrated.

       

      and...

       

      since a lot of people are brain dead sheep who will buy anything because of a cool trailer,

       

      thumbsup

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    Privx420x

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