25 Replies Latest reply: Dec 23, 2011 4:56 AM by shadowthief RSS

Robert Bowling's A Liar!

arcaver

Months before MW3 came out Robert Bowling stated that there "will be no second chance, or last stand, or anything like it." *Crowd cheered* Modern Warfare 3 is released and what do you know, Final Stand is in MW3. The guy broke my trust and until this is removed from the game, don't listen to him cause, to me, he's full of crap until he makes it right and remove that stupid death streak.

  • Re: Robert Bowling's A Damn Liar!
    avengedyesterday

    A lot of what he said isn't true... Maybe why he has become a def mute after the release? I'm sure he got a big bonus for the sales tho

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    "CoD4 gun on gun action"

     

    Yet more equipment, more killstreaks, return of deathstreaks, knife is still overpowered, etc.

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    arcaver

    He also said Commando was out of the game as well, but it's just Melee in the Riot Shield. It's amazing how they can't run, but they can teleport into you and kill you. I'm still baffled on how someone can dash through my bullets and knife me.

     

    I mentioned my issue with him on Twitter, but have yet to hear back from him.

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    Well, you have to understand, they didn't get a lot of dev time because of the lawsuit, so they tried to make it a bit more like CoD4 and more gun-on-gun while still keeping some of the content of MW2, but ultimately it would be more like a MW2 expansion pack.

     

    But out of all things to complain, the last things I would b*tch about would be the deathstreaks. Without them we'd see spawntrapping, MOAB abuse, and the game being an oligopoly run by clans with no life outside of Call of Duty.

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    MW3 is more 'gun v gun', in a sense that ....

     

    1. noobtubes(GL's) have been greatly nerfed, OMA is gone, there are no triple/double nade perks and the Scavenger perk doesnt allow a nade refill. So right there, there are FOUR big fixes that reduce GL/grenade spam, making players use their guns more.

     

    2. While there are tons of KS air support options......they are all still easily shot down by any of the Launcher classes, plus, the Sam Turrent option is still available. Plus....now, unlike before, the EMP bomb is only a 18 point item on the Support package. Get 3 to 4 caps/objective pts, all you need is 14 kills and you can run an EMP, knocking everything out of the sky for 60 seconds. Two guys running this, you pretty much can control the skies for 25% of the game.

     

    So unless you are playing with a bunch of complete turds, air attacks should almost be nonexistent in this game, should never be an issue for a player.

     

    To the OP, chill out and reevaluate your post, you don't know what you are talking about. Either that, or you kind of suck.

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      I must say, MW3 is really the only true CoD that's Gun-to-gun. CoD4 and MW2's explosives were really OP, BO had RC-XDs and all that crap, and WaW had tanks.

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      tedge

      1) The 12 round semi-automatic XM-25 just craps all over most of this answer. Tubes are weaker, but the ROF is flat out retarded.

       

      2) 90% of the people they put on my team are complete turds.

       

       

      And you could argue heavily AGAINST MW3 being more "gun v gun" for the reasons CSx121 mentioned.

       

      More equipment: Stuff like portable radar, scrambler, HBS slows down gameplay, doesn't speed it up

       

      More pointstreaks: So many, that it was broken into 3 tiers.

       

      Return of deathstreaks: Not just the return of them, but more than ever before and twice as cheap.

       

      The knife: http://youtu.be/DFQOrTmRAbA and http://youtu.be/AUpTPW9-0II hell, the knife lunge is so rediculous, it was getting people off the map.

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      avengedyesterday

      the wrestler wrote:

       

      MW3 is more 'gun v gun', in a sense that ....

       

      1. noobtubes(GL's) have been greatly nerfed, OMA is gone, there are no triple/double nade perks and the Scavenger perk doesnt allow a nade refill. So right there, there are FOUR big fixes that reduce GL/grenade spam, making players use their guns more.

       

      2. While there are tons of KS air support options......they are all still easily shot down by any of the Launcher classes, plus, the Sam Turrent option is still available. Plus....now, unlike before, the EMP bomb is only a 18 point item on the Support package. Get 3 to 4 caps/objective pts, all you need is 14 kills and you can run an EMP, knocking everything out of the sky for 60 seconds. Two guys running this, you pretty much can control the skies for 25% of the game.

       

      So unless you are playing with a bunch of complete turds, air attacks should almost be nonexistent in this game, should never be an issue for a player.

       

      To the OP, chill out and reevaluate your post, you don't know what you are talking about. Either that, or you kind of suck.

       

      So basically you're saying since you have to shoot people, it's about the gun on gun battles? No that's been the case in every call of duty. That's kind of the point.... to shoot people.

       

      Making explosives useless didn't do anything to encourage it, it just made exposives useless. Too powerful in MW2, uselss in MW3.

       

      The rc-xd? Are you slow? Thats just 3arc's attempt at the predator missle which isn't even close to as deadly as the predator. I fail to see how that ruined the gun on gun play in blackops which is the only call of duty since cod4 to actually revolve around gun battles.

       

      If the game did revolve around gun fights then there would be no killstreak chaining ( You should have to earn all your killstreaks) There would be no support package. The only thing MW3 did to attempt to bring gun on gun back is the specialist package.

       

      This game was made to be easy to play by all so that anyone can do well regardless of skill, it was made to sell.

       

      So maybe you should think about what you say before you post or you just kinds suck  ( except in mw3 ).

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      the wrestler wrote:

       

      MW3 is more 'gun v gun'.

      Nice oxymoron.

       

      The main thing CoD4 pulled off well is that the only thing in the air was a Helicopter. That was all. It never dominated, but it does a solid job of killing. MW3 can have a Reaper, AC130, Pavelow, dozens of UAVs and Counters, a Predator Missile, and two Assault drones all for one team. That is overkill compared to CoD4 and that isn't describing how the Pavelow and AC130 are dominating pointstreaks.

       

      When they meant "CoD4 gun on gun". They really meant that. Akimbo Secondaries? That dominate? Yea, that is CoD4 right there.

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    "We listen to the community." Yet they don't look into OP weapons, they just say "We nerfed them, now go f*ck off." If only DICE developed COD..........

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      I don't want a sluggish, slow, bad looking CoD thank you very much.

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        dstr001 wrote:

         

        I don't want a sluggish, slow, bad looking CoD thank you very much.

        Uhhh,

         

        Cod=/= Battlefield.

         

        DICE DEVELOPS A COD GAME. Anyone with common sense would know that they would stay true with the 60 FPS. The only difference would be that DICE would actually listen to the community......

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      If DICE developed CoD, every map would be the size of Argentina, the gameplay would be slowed to an escargo's rate, and the mechanics would be so complicated that newbies would smash their disc after a few games. There's a reason BF3 got more hype but MW3 sold better.

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        cryo70 wrote:

         

        If DICE developed CoD, every map would be the size of Argentina, the gameplay would be slowed to an escargo's rate, and the mechanics would be so complicated that newbies would smash their disc after a few games. There's a reason BF3 got more hype but MW3 sold better.

        False.

         

        BF in no way is slower. That is your ADHD kicking in from so much CoD and playing on Nuketown-sized maps. MW3's spawn system and tiny maps is the only reason they label it as "fast-paced action". Fix the spawns and give all maps an increase of 50% and that "fast-paced action" is gone. The only sluggish time in BF3 is when it is spawntrapping and you kill them off quickly. This rarely happens.

         

        Unlike CoD, you actually have to learn how to pilot and handle guns in BF. Let the children cry and break their disk if they can't handle driving a tank or getting off the ground in a Heli. It shows who has an attention span.

         

        Here is the reason BF got tons of awards and hype while MW3 got only "Best Shooter" and millions of sales. BF holds more quality and a longer lifetime than two CoDs combined, but BF is not a pure mainstream shooter like CoD on the otherhand. CoD will obviously sell more. But sales don't determine how good a game is.

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          brandaman

          Not that Battlefield is bad, but it is much, much, slower than CoD.

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            vims1990

            I respect the fact that DICE aren't trying to become like COD and basically use the COD formula of smaller maps, perks & pointstreaks/killstreaks.

             

            I find BF3 enjoyable but I struggle to get mates to join/squad up with me as they don't enjoy the slow pacing of the game.

             

            COD fits more of the casual gaming community. I mean look at it. You have proficiencies to give your less recoil, you can nuke a better player with dead man's hand after dying so many times, sniping has a specific perk to ADS faster etc.

             

            COD will always dominate sales because it's a practically easier game compared to BF3.

            I suck at BF3 and I can admit to that but I still enjoy it at the end of the day.

             

            I never want to see DICE use the COD formula. At least during gaming season, I don't have to pick between a DICE or a COD game, I can buy both and play depending on what mood I'm in whether I want to "call in the airstrike" or "be the airstrike"

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            vims1990

            Sorry...double post

  • Re: Robert Bowling's A Damn Liar!
    dflannagan10

    As you know, Robert confirmed no Second Chance and Last Stand in Modern Warfare 3. He is correct. These perks were removed from the game.

     

    Final Stand, a Deathstreak requiring five deaths in a row (without getting a kill) to be activated, is in the game. Surely you understand the difference between something that is activated every single time someone 'kills' you (well, puts a lot of bullets into you), and something that requires you to do VERY bad.

     

    Follow me on twitter.

     


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      dflannagan10 wrote:

       

      As you know, Robert confirmed no Second Chance and Last Stand in Modern Warfare 3. He is correct. These perks were removed from the game.

       

      Final Stand, a Deathstreak requiring five deaths in a row (without getting a kill) to be activated, is in the game. Surely you understand the difference between something that is activated every single time someone 'kills' you (well, puts a lot of bullets into you), and something that requires you to do VERY bad.

       

      Follow me on twitter.

       


      He could have misunderstood and thought that any feature that resembles Last Stand is gone which is why he is calling him a liar.

       

      402 still has lied about other things.

       

      Five deaths is easy to get in MW3 since the maps are small and the spawns are horrid. It doesn't require a huge idiot for it to happen.

  • Re: Robert Bowling's A Damn Liar!
    brandaman

    Actually, he said, "No Last Stand".

     

    He never said anything about Second Chance or Final Stand.

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    agreed.  Bowling is as much of a liar as JD_2020 is a whining crybaby b1tch.

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    @CaptSmackaho- Stop sucking Robert Blowing tiny ****

     

    Yes he lied, Final Stand is Last Stand on streroids (Primary or sec, weapons plus you can get back up). Commando is implemented into all melee attacks. and the MOAB is the nuke. I dont care if this company stays in buisiness, but they will NOT be getting anymore of my money. Cant wait for Rainbow 6: Patriots to drop so I can have a good squad based game to play because the past 3 CoDs definately weren't what i was looking for in a game. I shouldve learned my lesson with Mw2, but I gave them the benefit of the doubt and they let me down.

     

    Screw IW, Bowling, and activision. Sledgehammer you eat ass at making a decent MP experience.