21 Replies Latest reply: Jan 23, 2012 8:05 PM by nuttin2say RSS

question about the specialist bonus?

grif77775

if you run overkill does the bonus give all the proficencies for your second weapon or just for your primary?

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and what specialist package would run if you use a shotgun secondary?

  • Re: question about the specialist bonus?
    schlag2dash

    it is just perks, no proficiencies. You have all the perks when you get to 7 kills. NO matter what weapons you have.

  • Re: question about the specialist bonus?

    Yes you do. I believe once specialist bonus is achieved its YOU that gets all perks and proficiencies not the one gun you were using. I have had alot of specialist experience and that would be my take on it.

  • Re: question about the specialist bonus?
    schlag2dash

    OK here you go, I am correcting myself. You do get some of the proficiencies, not all here is the info.

    The Specialist Package is special in that instead of equipment and air support, players are rewarded with additional perks upon completing the required Strike Chain. Extra perks are obtained after getting two, four, and six points in a row without dying. If a player achieves eight point streak (7 with Hardline), they are rewarded with all Specialist-compatible perks, an additional "Specialist Bonus" in the form of experience, and all Weapon Proficiencies except for Breath, Damage, and Attachments. All perks except for Overkill can be selected, although players can use Overkill as one of their starting three perks. Pro perks are only awarded if they have been attained. Once the player dies, they lose any of the extra perks and must start the strike chain over. The player may choose what perks will be gained in the Create-A-Class menu.


  • Re: question about the specialist bonus?

    i use specialist on domination and use the hardline pro perk its really good and pretty easy xp, ok so in response specialist doesnt affect the weps it only adds perks to you making you a super speed oma way it works (with hardline) 1 point/kill earned you earn the 1st perk you select eg quickdraw so your running a 4th perk, then at 3 points/kills you get a 5th perk then at 5 points/kills you get the FINAL perk you selected (you can only choose to use 3 perks that arent selected as primary perks) then at 7 points/kills you earn "specialist bonus" which is all perks in the game even if you havent unlocked them yet i started ranking up so fast when i used specialist i started using stingers and now even faster plus all those extra challenges you get all at once at around lvl 50 you get like 45k xp per game in challenges alone ^^

  • Re: question about the specialist bonus?

    The question still isn't answered.

     

    He wants to know if you hit specialist bonus, does your second primary gets all proficiencies as well as your primary.

     

    I would recommend just testing in a private match. Get a 7 killstreak on your friend with specialist and any scope except thermal on the secondary, on an assault rifle (so that you have breath). If it gives perks for the secondary, you'll get hold breath, if not, you won't. Simple.

  • Re: question about the specialist bonus?
    phil0700

    When you get the specialist bonus you get all perk and all proficiencies whatever gun your using and even on secondary and gun you pickup on the ground expect damage and breath proficiency and just for clear the thing (all proficiencies = even the one you cant get like speed on assault rifle) sorry for my english it not my mother tongue

  • Re: question about the specialist bonus?
    dstr001

    You don't get any proficiencies, why do people keep saying that you do? If you got all proficiencies then you would begin getting the challenges for them also, which you clearly DON'T. The most obvious way to check is to see if you can hold breath with your AR after getting the bonus, which clearly, you can't.

     

    The specialist bonus gives you perks ONLY, I have used it plenty to know this.

  • Re: question about the specialist bonus?
    nuttin2say

    @ dstr001 ...

     

    You get to use all the perks and proficiencies, but not all of them count toward challenges.

     

    The reason should be pretty obvious: players would complete all the challenges without even trying.

     

    You DO get count toward challenges that you have activated in your class setup. In other words, if your 4th, 5th, and 6th perks are scavenger, dead silence, blind eye ... anything you do toward completing those challenges during the match count toward the challenge.

     

    However, any perks that ARE NOT part of your initial perk set up in your specialist class do not. So if you don't have Assassin, for example, as one of your six perks, once the Specialist Bonus is activated, NOTHING you do using Assassin during the match counts towards challenges.

     

    Think of it like kill streak kills. You get kills with them but they don't count toward more kill streaks.

     

    The same is true of proficiencies. If you pick up an AK47 on the field and you don't have an AK47 in any of your classes, none of the kills you get count toward completing the proficiencies for that weapon - even though you are using all the proficiencies.

     

    If you have an MP5 in one of your classes an have, say, the Kick proficiency ... any MP5 you pick up on the field and get kills with counts towards the kick proficiency for that weapon.

     

    I THINK, I am not sure, but I think if you use any weapon you find that is also in just one of your classes, the kills you get with that weapon count to the proficiencies activated by the specialist bonus.

     

    For example, your specialist class is using an ACR. You run out of ammo before the spec bonus is activated so you pick up an M4. You happen to have an M4 in another class. Then you activate the spec bonus. All the proficiencies unlocked by the spec bonus now apply to the weapon in your hands, the M4. The kills you get while using the M4 at that point count towards your proficiencies for that weapon, the M4. But it has to be kills with the M4. If you switch to your Desert Eagle, the kills count toward the Deagle's proficiencies as long as you use the Deagle to get the kill.

     

    The end result is that you don't have a lot of kills counting toward proficiencies.

     

    I've activated the Spec Bonus as many as three times on numerous occasions. The problem is that you end up getting one or two kills after activating the Spec Bonus many times.

     

    Even those times I get 15 or 16 total kills with spec bonus, that's only 8 or 9 kills counting toward those proficiencies.

     

    It helps, don't get me wrong ... but it is not a silver bullet to completing proficiencies super-fast.

     

    One last thing, to make the most use of the Specialist Class, I highly recommend playing Kill Confirmed.

     

    You get waaaaay more points in KC than in any other game mode (if you bother to pick up tags, both gold tags and red tags).

     

    Also, you can complete Overkill faster using Specialist. Use it as your initial Tier 2 perk and have your 4th perk be your Hardline. It takes two kills or caps, but then you've got Hardline helping you.

     

    Its no different than if you could use Overkill in your 4th, 5th, or 6th spot other than that 4th perk takes one extra kill or cap to activate. After that, you can still activate Spec Bonus with 7 kills/caps.

    • Re: question about the specialist bonus?
      dstr001

      Hmm, kinda cleared that up for me, i still don't feel a difference when using the bonus though! I can accept when I'm wrong, so i apologise folks, i really don't see any difference when using it!

      • Re: question about the specialist bonus?
        nuttin2say

        dstr001 wrote:

         

        Hmm, kinda cleared that up for me, i still don't feel a difference when using the bonus though! I can accept when I'm wrong, so i apologise folks, i really don't see any difference when using it!

         

        To be honest?

         

        IMO, the proficiencies don't make that much of a difference on most weapons to begin with. The SMGs outfitted with Range and either rapid fire or silencer seem better than other proficiencies. Or an SMG with attachments and rapid fire and silencer do well, also. Other than that, I don't really see the much improvement with the proficiencies.

        • Re: question about the specialist bonus?
          mjw3786

          I disagree. As someone who typically runs an SMG with attachments [silencer+rapid fire] I prefer an AR with kick or focus + iron sights over any sight. Kick for a team that has average to poor aim/reaction time. Focus for a skilled, experienced team that is going to hit you almost immediately when you appear on their screen.

           

          Focus has actually become my go to prof for AR's now. Try the ACR with Focus. Amazing

          nuttin2say wrote:

           

          dstr001 wrote:

           

          Hmm, kinda cleared that up for me, i still don't feel a difference when using the bonus though! I can accept when I'm wrong, so i apologise folks, i really don't see any difference when using it!

           

          To be honest?

           

          IMO, the proficiencies don't make that much of a difference on most weapons to begin with. The SMGs outfitted with Range and either rapid fire or silencer seem better than other proficiencies. Or an SMG with attachments and rapid fire and silencer do well, also. Other than that, I don't really see the much improvement with the proficiencies.

          • Re: question about the specialist bonus?
            nuttin2say

            @ mjw3786

             

            Overall I agree with what you're saying. I didn't think the thread was about what was the best gun. Maybe I should have worded what I said differently. I could go back and check what I wrote, but I'm feeling too lazy at the moment.

             

            I'm pretty sure I said, however, that IMO the proficiencies don't make enough difference in weapon performance to worry about.

             

            That said, in my experience, the only place I've noticed "better" performance on any measurable scale is with the setups on SMGs I mentioned.

             

            Overall, I like ARs with Kick, too. In fact, my most used weapon is the M4. The ACR with Kick or Attachments is a good gun, too.

             

            But the lack of proficiencies when a new prestige starts doesn't even cross my mind. Why?

             

            They aren't that important to overall weapon performance, IMO.

      • Re: question about the specialist bonus?
        phil0700

        Ok got to private match with a friend and pick up for secondary a g18 get the specialist bonus and shot with it you will see you have almost no recoil and you can check aswell that you have stability and with that you will notice the difference if not it your probleme ... Ah and you have not notified yet that you gain more speed in specialist.

  • Re: question about the specialist bonus?

    Sorry it appears I must have been misinformed, or maybe the guy who wrote the wiki page is.

     

    I don't see any reason why breath wouldn't appear. Breath is an Assault Rifle ONLY prof so that might have thrown off the writer.

     

    That said I remember a video of a MOAB with the player on specialist bonus, and he completed a marksman "hold breath challenge" - I'm looking up the video now.

     

    2:10 if you want to check http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BecKuDWWEm0&feature=sh_e_top&list=SL

     

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    Either way, if the breath thing is true, I would think impact on an AR would be next easiest to test. Simply go to dome, see how many shots it takes to kill someone through the metal box, then try after you hit all specialist bonus.