27 Replies Latest reply: Oct 22, 2012 10:36 PM by kellysa111 RSS

Ballistic Vests

StoNeS0629

Is this the next thing people are going to say is OP?  I can't tell you how many people I heard last night complaining about these things, can't say that I haven't at times as well but it was overboard last night.

 

I figured for the most part it was becuz a guy I was running with, he runs Support with just a UAV and Ballistic Vests, nothing higher.  He has like a 2.5 KDR so he gets a lot of kills thus he throws vests out all over the place.  This obviously helps when you are on a team of randoms and paired up with people who don't put up good numbers, that vest can help someone survive an explosion or even win a gun fight by being able to take that 1st bullet and not die - this is in HC.

 

Just wondering if anyone else has noticed all the complaining on the mic or in hate mail about Ballistic Vests?  Or do some people even consider them to be noobish?  What's the consensus?

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    This is CoD, everyone complains about everything. Get used to it.

    The striker for example, you only notice when someone kills you with it, you never notice when you kill someone who is using it.

    People complain about anything, but tbh there is a lot to complain about in this game.

    That would be the over load of killstreaks once again and the support package.

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      StoNeS0629

      Trust me i know, i've been playing COD since COD4 and been on every forum represented for that game.  It was just that up to this point last night I hadnt really heard anybody complaining about them.  I mean they are low level Support streak, I personally hardly ever run or use them myself but if I'm near where they are thown out, I'll grab one.

       

      I think since we were running them, the other team started running them and in HC they can make a difference, not most of the time but I know there were a couple times where I just shot at an oppenent with a like 1 or 2 burst and moved on thinking I should have killed someone only to see that vest pop up and them kill me. 

       

      I've got no problems with them though.

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    people just love to moan. ive never heard people call it overpowered. the guys moaning probaly died on a killsteak by a guy using it. so 1st response is to call it OP. i could see how it could be OP in HC but i never play it so ive got no opinion on that.

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    since i tend to play with random people and i'm a team player i always have the BV so i can drop it for my team to use. I don't care when the other team crys about me using it because when there're put on the same team as me as soon as i drop them down they pick them right up

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    That5What5Up

    BVs legit dont seem to do anything when I use them.  I get a red screen maybe a little more often, but half the time I'm alive and then dead as if I was in hardcore.  No red screen, the BV didnt do ****. **** the lag comp.

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    I use that setup because you get a ton of EXP.  Each vest gets you 200 exp for a drop and 50 exp for each person that picks one up.  Right after a prestige that setup can net me 8k exp per match and levels super quick.  Also, in HC they are pretty tight.

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      StoNeS0629

      Yeah I may give it a run as well, forgot that you get XP whenever people grab them.

       

      Also agree for HC they seem to work to at least save you from that intial shot if your're slow coming around a corner or someone pops you from a distance, normally your dead, with this you just go back and grab another vest.

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      so true and when you combine the BV in kill confirm you get even more xp. One thing i do in KC is i never pick  up the dogtags of my kills i leave them for my team members because when they pick them up we both get the xp from it.

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      Yea I just run either Support or Specialist why run Strike Package since I get shot out of nowhere all the time. Lots of XP thats all i care about since I want to level up quick.

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    c4rl

    At worst sweater vests are a little annoying. However people are really quite accurate about many things that are labeled OP. When you can use a secondary weapon as a primary it might be a little OP. *cough FMG9's cough*

     

    Let's not forget that the devs build this game for 2 years straight and they may get a little bit of tunnel vision when it comes down to the millions of balancing issues they have to manage. They DO miss things and they DO make mistakes. We aren't the bad guys for pointing them out when we notice them.

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    I don't think they're OP at all, I'm pretty sure they can be destroyed by a knife or something anyways so that no one can collect from that vest cache anymore? The only thing about it that makes people mad is how unpredictable it can be. Not every one actually puts one on, so usually you just run into the random guy that has it on and you're not ready for that so you might loose the gun fight.

     

    Personally I think they're great, and I love having them in the game. Perfect for a low support streak, I don't see them used that often, and even less often do I see people actually putting them on which I don't understand... (unless of course they're dropped in a stupid area and it's more dangerous to get the vest).

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      AKi_nG

      I just hate when peeps drop them in dumbass areas that are more risky to grab, than to have. On that note, in the beginning, the yellow/orange haze it puts on you would screw me up for some reason. I felt it limited my view.....anyone else feel this way at first(obviously not anymore)????

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        Gerbera

        Yeah, I do think that gold haze that fills up your peripheral vision is annoying. They should take it out and just make something like a health bar appear next to the Killstreak bar or something so you know how much damage it can take before it's gone (which really doesn't feel like all that much to me).

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          Or just do it the way they do the body armor icon in Spec Ops, with a little shield and number next to it at the bottom of the screen. When it's gone, you know you don't have any more body armor.

           

          I always throw out ballistics vests when I'm playing my support classes, and the yellow tunnel vision is very distracting to me. Not as bad as blast shield in MW2, but close.

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    rlbl

    The only thing I do not like is when you get a headshot on someone with a sniper... and they don;t die because they were wearing a vest..

     

    huh!?

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    creaper21

    IMO, they're fine in Core. But after playing Hardcore Search and Destroy for a while, I think they are pretty overpowered. I don't know exactly how much extra health you get, but it feels like you get a little over double the health.

     

    Like I said, I think it's fine in Core, as it only adds 1 bullets extra worth of health. But in Hardcore I have hit people 4 times and still get by them killed when they only hit me once.

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      rlbl

      Youtr last sentence says "LAG" all over it.  You totally invalidated your argument.

       

      (although I do get annoyed when playing in HC and the other team have BVs all over the place... but when you know they are doing it, just adapt and keep shooting).

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        creaper21

        Not really. I can tell when it's lag. When I shoot 10 times and none of my shots even fire to the other person.

         

        What I am talking about is when I shoot a person 5 times and then stop shooting(assuming he is dead because it's hardcore and I just got 4 hitmarkers), then he turns around and shoots me once. Ballistic vest just seems to give you over double the health in Hardcore.

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    ghamorra

    Quick question, do Balistic Vests prtect your head too. I've seen many times where I'm aiming down my variable zoom and get a hit marker on the head. It could be bad hit detection but since it happens so often I wasn't sure

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    I find it strange that people don't pick them up more often.   I ran only vests and dropped 3 all over the map and only two people picked them up.

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      Gerbera

      A lot of people are probably under the impression that if they stop for even a moment, they'll get gunned down or something...these days, with how horrid the spawning is, it's not surprising, but I've picked them up when I could if I was near them

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        StoNeS0629

        I agree with alot of you and I have passed on them at times as well when they are out the open.  The guy I play with he sits by them when he tosses them down to cover anyone who comes up to grab them and I am assuming to protect them from enemies destroying them.

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          Gerbera

          Yeah, I sometimes like to use Ballistic Vests and/or SAM Turrets to lure enemies in and ambush them (a Claymore, Bouncing Betty, C4, I.M.S., and/or Remote Sentry in the way doesn't hurt either, lol). Call it camping if you want, but it works pretty well as people tend to get tunnel vision when they see an enemy SAM Turret on their radar.

           

          Especially given people these days rarely fall for the Airdrop Trap except for newer/less experienced players. How people use them doesn't help either, purposely throwing it down into an opposing team's more concentrated area, making it obvious that it's a trap since you're giving it to them. I tend to try to use it in a more "neutral" area, near the opposing team's area but not in it, then defend it and make it LOOK real until I die or am "driven off", they're usually convinced it's legit and them *BOOM!* lol.

           

          That's another fun thing about the Riot Shield, you can open such things without fear as the shield will block the explosion, lol.

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            kellysa111

            When I run support, I run uav, ballistic vest, and recon drone.

            So much more xp with the recon drone. Even if I go negative, I'm usually at the top of the leaderboard.

             

            Anyway, I find the ballistic vest works good. I die the same amount, but it's fun to use.