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  • 190. Re: Petition to buff AA-12: More reserve ammo

    You sir are good at gun balancing, IW hire this guy you'll get a great cod game. on topic, aa12 needs a buff, it's not what it was pre-extmags patch. I still love it but it needs a buff, definatly more ammo you HAVE to use scavenger and with the painful reload speed and small mag makes it a very hard gun. Still my fav gun:D

  • 191. Re: Petition to buff AA-12: More reserve ammo and bigger magazine

    weaponbalance wrote:

     

    I agree with those changes excluding the pellet spread one. Giving spread like the ksg to the AA12 as standard wouldn't be so bad, but with steady aim you would considerably increase its effectiveness to an extent that I myself wouldn't be too happy about (not to mention trialstar, hahaha).

     

    I guess I kinda over exaggerated there. I just don't think the AA-12 should have "Steady-aimed sniper" spread without Steady Aim. I'm almost certain that even with Steady Aim, it's spread is still larger than or equal to a bare USAS or KSG

     

    If they decrease spread just enough so that SA isn't required, I'd be fine with that. IMO, the AA-12 is the only shotgun that requires perks and prof. to be a viable long-term weapon.

     

    If they ever decrease spread, increase damage per pellet to 20-5 and give a total of 4 magazines to the AA-12, they should also nerf it's ROF to 300 RPM and from there, nerf the Striker's max ROF to 200 and buff the USAS' ROF to 210-250 RPM to put some truth to the in-game stats (For the non-pump/lever-action shotties, it say the Stiker is the slowest, the AA-12 is the fastest and the USAS is inbetween).

  • 192. Re: Petition to buff AA-12: More reserve ammo
    9blackguys

    d8noped8b: I used to think the AA-12 needed this and that to be viable, but IW thinks its balanced according to GHANDI himself. So the point of this thread is to get the most fair buff we can despite what anyone, IW included, thinks. I don't see how giving the AA-12 more ammo will make it "easier" to use or "OP", people just need to stop being so narrow minded

  • 193. Re: Petition to buff AA-12: More reserve ammo
    anoreo

    If Specialist never existed, I think I would have given up on this gun by now. It CANNOT stand on its own merits! It needs SoH AND the Max Proficiency to be successful. <3 specialist

  • 194. Re: Petition to buff AA-12: More reserve ammo and bigger magazine

    Steady aim multiplies a weapons hipspread by 0.65. The AA12 has a base hipsread value of 8, the KSG has a base hipspread value of 5 (bigger number, wider spread). 8x0.65 gives you 5.2, so you are correct, the aa12s steady aim hipspread is slightly larger than the KSGs regular hipspread.

  • 195. Re: Petition to buff AA-12: More reserve ammo

    I tried using support with the AA12 and its painful. SPecialist is your best choice, but i use that on pretty much every gun, i sometimes use uav ballistic vest combo though, vests are my fav killstreak of all time!

  • 196. Re: Petition to buff AA-12: More reserve ammo and bigger magazine

    Geez that's awful. The AA-12 really does have almost everything going against it.

     

    -It has low starting ammo
    -Its spread is huge compared to other shotguns

    -Has the lowest damage of all the shotguns (a bare AA-12 needs 7 of 8 pellets to land to get a OHK in max damage range. Good luck with that considering its spread.)
    -Has the least range

     

    It's ROF advantage can barely be considered one as the Striker can almost match it while being better in pretty much every way.

  • 197. Re: Petition to buff AA-12: More reserve ammo
    thebiindsniper

    Wait a second.  Sorry to call you out, but did one of the forum moderators say the AA12 should NOT be buffed, because it's "fully automatic"?

     

    No offense, but if that's true, that's a stupid response.


    ~RUGGED SAVIOR

     

    http://www.youtube.com/ruggedsavior

  • 198. Re: Petition to buff AA-12: More reserve ammo
    vileself

    So in one thread you're bragging about how you massacre people and get 50 MOABS with the AA-12, and in another thread you wanna buff it? There are holes here.

  • 199. Re: Petition to buff AA-12: More reserve ammo

    I wouldn't mind a buff. I don't use it in multiplayer, but I tried it on Survival Mode (where all the guns are their multiplayer versions) and the low reserve ammo made it almost pointless if you weren't camping at the weapon armoury.

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