18 Replies Latest reply: Mar 22, 2012 9:12 PM by monkeylord RSS

Map Control vs Camping (41-4 KC MOAB)

dlundebjerg28

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXznij9mOBo&feature=youtube_gdata_player

 

Above is a nice video of a MOAB I got tonight on Village playing some kill confirmed. I'm using the Type 95 and I have akimbo FMG9s as my secondary, so if toure gonba hate for that, don't waste your time watching.

 

Anyway douche on the other team sent me a message after the game calling me a camper and a ton of other stuff, but IMO I wasnt camping, but instead controlling the map. My MOAB streak was relatively short, and even though all the kills came from the same general area, I got constant action and I see that as map control instead of camping. If you are holding down a specific area, recieving constant traffic, do you see that as camping or map control?

 

Feel free to use the video as an example and I'm not gonna get pissy and cry if you call me a camper or say mean things about the video. I recorded it on my iPhone and thought it was a good demonstration of how staying in the same general area can be seen as camping by some, and controlling the map by others

  • Re: Map Control vs Camping (41-4 KC MOAB)
    dlundebjerg28

    guess nobody cares

  • Re: Map Control vs Camping (41-4 KC MOAB)
    Izjar11

    Good game play bro, video is just boring (add some music or something) but pretty good. I swear by the type 95, but detest it without a red dot attachment.

    • Re: Map Control vs Camping (41-4 KC MOAB)
      dlundebjerg28

      good call on the music, might have to try that out next time.

       

      I kind of rotate between Ext Mags, RDS, Rapid Fire and a Suppressor for the Type 95, so I'm used to the irons by now. Rapid Fire+Suppressor has to be my favorite combination though. The iron sights are a bit weird at first, but if  you use them for a while you get used to them.

    • Re: Map Control vs Camping (41-4 KC MOAB)

      yes i agree on that type 95 but its a ***** without the dot .. i forget why i dont have the dot on mine i think so i can have rapid fire .. but i think i have to switch back to the dot ... its just the dot doesnt give it a "advantage' but im not sure rapid fire does either ..

  • Re: Map Control vs Camping (41-4 KC MOAB)
    wridtrvlr

    I'll watch the vid when I get home.

     

    But from your explination of it, i call it map control.  That is my main way of playing.  Get to the "area" of the map I like and hold it down. 

     

    I prefer the word "patrolling" better than camping.    Camping is sitting in a corner waiting for someone to run past you or in front of you for an easy kill.   Patrolling is holding down a small-medium sized area of the map, running different routes in that same general area that gives you the advantage. 

     

    I do this 95% of the time.  The other 5% is me running back to that area of the map. 

  • Re: Map Control vs Camping (41-4 KC MOAB)

    good game ... when your were crouched by that car i was yelling look at the radar you are about to get got .. and sure enough you got killed ... what i dont get is how many times some of you guys get shot but yet manage to stay alive is seems like evertime i get shot i go down .. either way i woudnt call it camping .. the type 95 is a beast but i dont like it with a silencer for some reason i have tried it  a few times not for me .

    • Re: Map Control vs Camping (41-4 KC MOAB)
      dlundebjerg28

      Theater mode doesn't show it, but that first time I got behind the car I got that wierd glitch or lag spike where your screen moves at about one frame per second. I knew there were people coming for me, I literally was unable to move though lol

       

      I feel like when your on your specialist bonus you have increased health. Maybe I just feel like I'm in god mode with all the perks, but for some reason, I just feel like I can take an extra bullet or two before dying when I'm on the specialist bonus.

       

      Typically if I did what I did in that video, I would call it camping, but I felt like moving form that spot would've been stupid. For whatever reason the other team kept flowing through my two lines of sight, and I feel like even if your not moving, if people are constantly rushing toward you, its hard to really justify moving.

       

      I love the silencer on the Type 95, idk if its just me, but I feel as if its almost like the MK14 and it has little to no effect on the damage. My 1 burst kill radius still seemed the same, and it may take an extra burst or two from range, but I see no downside to the silencer. The only thing is I feel like if you put a silencer on it, you need to have Rapid Fire on it as well

  • Re: Map Control vs Camping (41-4 KC MOAB)
    nickpeck36

    I don't see camping as a bad thing anyways, though it can be annoying but hey, it's part of the game so people need to just deal with it.  I to like to control an area like that as well, why not?  If people keep feeding you easy kills just stay put and let them do the running lol.

     

    Good video and gameplay.

  • Re: Map Control vs Camping (41-4 KC MOAB)
    Thesandman

    Good game play and certainly not camping. We al  know "camping" is just a sore losers word for being killed.

    • Re: Map Control vs Camping (41-4 KC MOAB)
      dlundebjerg28

      Half agree with you there.

       

      A fair amount of people who ***** about campers are only complaining because they got killed, but I actually ***** more about campers on my own team then ones on the other team. I hate getting teamed up with guys who sit in a corner and don't play the objective. They mess up the spawns, because I almost always seem to spawn near them. So bascially, if their camping the spawn flag in domination or just in a random building in something like Kill Confirmed, and I'm trying to push the enemy spawn, its a pain in the ass to have to keep running all the way across the map to get back into the action. Also, campers typically ignore the objective. I never complain about people defending flags, but guys who sit in random corners trying to rack up kills tick me off because they never help cap, and the kills they get are relatively unproductive because they aren't stopping people from capping flags or knocking people defending flags for the other team out of position.

       

      Alot of complaints about camping are bogus and repetitive and simply some kid mad that he got killed a few off his Pavelow, but there are definitely some legitimate gripes about camping.

  • Re: Map Control vs Camping (41-4 KC MOAB)
    blkbumblebee17

    omg come on guys.... im calling it for what it is this is camping....u can label it a million different ways but its a variation of camping as is patrolling, and turtling...

     

    not to mention this is kc the objective is to collect tags... how the hell can u collect tags behind a car????? i wait for your answer on that???? Exactly you cant... moving oo with my second observation...

     

    these guys were idiots i cant believe they just kept coming out of the same spot... if i get killed more than once running the same route im flanking...

     

    it was a nice play on your part to notice these guys weren't too bright so you could have your way with them by camping.. i have nothing against camping anymore its smart play... its just to dang boring for me...

     

    last thing reading your other reply's above u claim to hate camping but in this vid that is what you did... you cant have it both ways.. the next time u get mad because some kid is camping for kills re watch your video and say to your self "i'm guilty of it too"....

     

    i know im gonna catch flack for calling this a good camping gameplay but imo that's what this was plain and simple...

    • Re: Map Control vs Camping (41-4 KC MOAB)
      monkeylord

      Not to sound like a dumb a*s but what is turtling?

      • Re: Map Control vs Camping (41-4 KC MOAB)
        blkbumblebee17

        lol yea found that out in another post on here someone said it.. then i looked it up wiki defined it as such...

         

        Turtling is a gameplay strategy that emphasizes heavy defense. Ostensibly, turtling minimizes risk to the turtling player while baiting opponents to take risks in trying to overcome the defenses.

         

        Consequently, while turtling strategies are usually simple enough for novices to learn and are effective as such, they are easily defeated by experienced players who understand the game's methods to counter turtling.

         

        As a metaphor, turtling refers to the defensive posture of a turtle, which retracts its limbs into its hardened shell for protection against predators. A player who concentrates on defense is said to behave like a turtle, reluctant to leave the safety of its shell for fear of suffering a lethal attack.

         

        Camping is also considered a turtling tactic.

        • Re: Map Control vs Camping (41-4 KC MOAB)
          monkeylord

          Gotta say I don't know why (probably something to do with the techno drome) but I like the term although  I don't mind people who can set up a good defense best i've come across so far was on bootleg they locked off the little house/market area at the top with 2 sentry guns and some well placed porti radar. It took 3 lives to get them out of there god bless the EMP grenade

    • Re: Map Control vs Camping (41-4 KC MOAB)
      dlundebjerg28

      As I said, feel free to call it what you like. I'm not angry, and actually welcome different opinions. No doubt I stayed in that one spot for far longer than I normally like to. Given the constant action I got, I found it stupid to leave that area. As far as the tags/score goes, I was in a full party, and we held off on confirming when I realized I was getting up close to the MOAB. We had a healthy lead and the 6 of us held off on collecting tags. **** move yes, but thats not how I typically play. Before the MOAB streak you can see that I tend to like to clear an area and then go for tags.

       

      As far as the quality of players and not getting flanked, they clearly weren't the best/smartest players, but its hard to find a gameplay on YouTube that someone genuinely dominates a beast group of players. And they did attempt to flank me several times, and only one was successful in getting to me and I took care of him. At some point when I was on my specialist bonus I stepped out from behind cover to pick up a scavenger pack and tag that was right near me, and called for backup because I knew they'd attempt to flank at somepoint. A buddy of mine came over and got my back. Also, if you look at the mini map we stayed out of the C Domination area so they'd continue to spawn there. We had two guys posted up by A that killed anyone attempting to go over the bridge where B was, and then we had me and 2 or 3 other guys watching that middle area by the truck. They may seem like idiots, and they partially were, but the reason I got a MOAB instead of a teammate was because they chose to come out the entrance I was watching. In a sense we had them spawn trapped, and they repeatedly chose to go through the area I was watching.

  • Re: Map Control vs Camping (41-4 KC MOAB)
    ayce123

    Im sorry but that is straight up camping any way you cut it. All you needed was claymores and a heartbeat sensor then it would be extreme camping. There are 3 things I hate most about this game 1. Camping 2. Heartbeat Sensor 3. Type-95 which in my opinion is the only gun in this game that is overpowered. Due to the fact that 1 trigger pull kills me everytime no matter what distance im at even when I shoot first be it an SMG or an Assault rifle it doesnt matter. Just like the famas and M-16 in all the other games. But good job you are an excellent camper if thats what you like but please dont do it in kill confirmed the 1 game mode designed to discourage camping it really takes away from the spirit of kill confirmed. Please just leave KC camper free its how I get away from the camping in everyother game mode which combined with the worst spawning in history makes the other games unbearable at times. AOW#

    • Re: Map Control vs Camping (41-4 KC MOAB)
      dlundebjerg28

      Like I said, call it what you like. I am not denying that I was staying in the same spot, however I challenge you to think what you would've done in my situation. Posting up there is always a good idea if the team spawns C, and generally I push foward, but I really never had a clear opportunity to do so. Again, not saying I wasn't camping, I was more saying from a tactical standpoint I saw no point during that MOAB streak where it made sense to leave that area.

       

      Also, please do not tell me how to play Kill Confirmed, I'm ranked like 550 or something near there in the world in Kill Confirmed. Clearly I realize that isn't how the game is meant to be played. I was playing in a full party, and we made the decision to lay off the tags and see if I could actually pull off the MOAB. We had the game in hand, and chose to play for kills for a short amount of time instead of playing the objective. If you notice the game ended shortly after my MOAB, because we stopped avoiding tags and ended their misery. I know how to play Kill Confirmed, and I'm guessing I know how to play it much better than you, espeically when I'm in a full clan against a bunch of clearly less talented players. Don't take one game as my typical playstyle, because thats nowhere near the truth.

      • Re: Map Control vs Camping (41-4 KC MOAB)
        monkeylord

        This one was a bit campy but to be fair they did just keep coming so it'd be a dumba*s time to move plus it looked like the game was in hand with no real hope of the other team rallying. The one thing this video displays is you should always have a sniper class ready for when your teammates seem to get stuck in run to the same spot mode.