25 Replies Latest reply: Mar 30, 2012 7:43 AM by falkon RSS

Please play the damn objective!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thesandman

Was playing team tactical 4v4 today on the map Mission. The game mode was Domination.

I admit that im not the best at this game but i do try and capture objectives as much as possible.

Anyway this guy on my team finishes 33-1 and gets a MOAB and our team still gets beat by 20 points.

I checked the theater mode after the match, and this guy did not secure 1 objective the entire match.

I finished above him in the scoreboard even though i only had 17-10.

So i messaged him afterwards and told him to go play TDM or FFA and that because of him,we basically lost our match.

I know folks that posts like these appear loads of times,but it was just this 1 match today that pi$$ed me off.

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    I'm with you. I HATE it when people don't play the objective. i get so fed up with getting my azz shot up trying to help my team win while they sit back and do nothing.

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    I feel your pain - when I play Domination I play the objectives hard - so its maddening when your capping a flag and teammates run by without even stopping for a sec to help.

     

    One of the major mistakes in MW3 is not having objective stats on the final scoreboard, like Black Ops did.  This showed people who was "doing work" and who the kill whores were.

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    Nuk1014

    Oh god. It's the same on demolition. Ever since people started asking what the best game for getting kills was, everyone goes there to kill whore.

     

    Now people actually let people win a round so that they can get more kills. I remember one game where I had five plants and four defuses, and my 10-14 year old teammate said that he'd hack me if I defused it one more time. Of course, I finished with five plants, five defuses, and I STILL have my account.

     

    If they were actually getting killstreaks to help me, I wouldn't mind as much. But  they have specialist on, trying to get their MOAB. It's already bad enough that you switch spawns on Demolition, but that was because all of the ones exploiting the Demolition spawns to spawn trap.

     

    Domination is probably the same thing. My K/D will never get up, since I have to cap all of the flags by myself. It only works one out of three times. I liked Black Ops scoreboard better. You knew who to thank for the victory.

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    WhyNoName

    Most of these people play Domination and HQ due to the fact that they are "longer" game modes - I see this excuse a lot.  If IW would increase TDM to more than 75 kills, some of the kill whores would possibly go to the other mode.  But, even with that, most of them would stick around in the objective modes because it makes the game easy to figure out where people are without having to use perks to know where they are.  You can build your load-out to something kill based and rack up the kills.

     

    I play to win - I play to capture the objective - it pisses me off as well when I get on teams with people who are either A:  absolutely clueless about the game mode they are in and go 3-25, or B:  people who are there to pad their k/d and don't care about winning for the team.

     

    Parties are the only answer in the reality we play in.

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    darkplaces28

    I couldn't agree more. I have been playing a lot of barebones over the past several weeks and people still camp and don't play the objective. When I say camping I don't mean defending a flag, but in random corners or bushes. If you play barebones and camp for kills then from that I take it that you only care about your K/D stat because obviously you're not going to get killstreaks other than a MOAB. It's annoying when you're there capping a flag and see a teammate run right by. Oh well people will play how they want. Domination and other objective games like it are easy to rack up kills if you don't play the objective so I assume that's what they are going for. Like you said...they should play TDM or FFA though where you can kill as many people as you'd like because that's the objective.

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      I actually can't stand this either lol, people will camp and wait on people to come to the flag, however I'v gotten pretty good at domination. I went 46-8 on village a few days ago, and this wasn't by camping and waiting I was actually playing the objective, if people try and compete in what there playing in then they will find that they will gain xp/level rank a whole lot faster. I went 46-8 with almost 5k points, from caps

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    Thats why i just play teamdeath match everything else is to stupid!!! Capture the flag all everybody usually does is just camp headquarters don't get me started teamdeath match is the best thing to play in this game.

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    TheBeastlyDude

    As much as I feel for you getting upset over others not playing the objective, you have no right to tell someone how they should play a game. They paid for the game and can do whatever they want with it within the terms of service. As long as they don't violate those, they can do whatever they want.

     

    I suggest you find like-minded players who play for the objective like you and team with them.

     

    The thing about most players who don't play for the objective is they realize that most of the time while playing objective games, they are going to lose because they are facing a party. So they just sit back, go for kills, pad their K/D ratio, and hope that someone will think they are good so that they can join their party.

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      gzowner1

      So i take it that you are one that kill whor a objective game? dont help out or do anything useful other than pad your useless fake KD?

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      TheBeastlyDude wrote:

       

      As much as I feel for you getting upset over others not playing the objective, you have no right to tell someone how they should play a game. They paid for the game and can do whatever they want with it within the terms of service. As long as they don't violate those, they can do whatever they want.

       

       

      That's not strictly true though is it? I've seen this argument banded about a lot (only just managed to post despite lurking for some time, silly forum) but when people play a team game they have a social responsibilty to conform. Playing FFA I would agree with you but in a team game everyones enjoyment is directly linked and losing games because your own team mates won't play ball simply isn't fun. Imagine using the same logic in a different situation, I used to play football (soccer to some) we all used to pay £3 to play and if one guy decided to sit down on the corner flag and blatently not help with the objective (defending and scoring) then I would give him 30 seconds before someone told him to sort himself out or get lost. Despite the fact he'd paid his £3.

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    It depends. If he floated around the middle flag then he did his job. If he never left your spawn than he's an arse who's KD means nothing. Your KD is only worth while if you are attempting to win a game.

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      esmorgue

      thisguygotcha wrote:

       

      It depends. If he floated around the middle flag then he did his job. If he never left your spawn than he's an arse who's KD means nothing. Your KD is only worth while if you are attempting to win a game.

      Exactly. Yet some will still look at is as camping. Yet who cares...They will come up with any excuse to complain about someone who isnt running support trying to get their stealth bomber.

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    Thesandman

    Beastly your post still doesnt address why these people dont just play TDM or FFA? why defend killwhores in objective modes?

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    Thesandman wrote:

     

    Anyway this guy on my team finishes 33-1 and gets a MOAB and our team still gets beat by 20 points.

    I checked the theater mode after the match, and this guy did not secure 1 objective the entire match.

     

    Similar thing happened about two weeks ago. The kiddie was hiding out the entire time and got destroyed, but managed to call his MOAB in at the end.

     

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    Soap_

    Right with u hate when people do that

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    WKMMS

    I've literally just finished a game of domination like this on Dome.  Start of the match we're on B side.  I run into the building alone and cap B., enemy has just capped A.  Not one member of the team goes for C, so I run over and cap that, alone again. 

     

    My "team" for want of a better word have set themselves up to go on a massive campage. Next thing I hear we're losing B. so I start running back there.  As I come up the tunnel from C the enemy have just capped the flag, so I throw my semtex into through the front door and get a lucky double, while I notice that my team-mate is laying prone at the base of a humvee akimbo FMGs at the ready (nobody's getting through the front door on his watch) and I run in and cap B again... alone. 

     

    That was the story for the whole game.  Me running around trying to cap and defend flags and the rest of my team toasting marshmallows over the campfire.  We end up losing a game that we could have easily have won against a team that were really bad. The difference being their team, bad as they were, actually played hard capping objectives and not worrying about how many times they died trying - which is exactly what you are supposed to do.

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    allll i can say is stop beinng crap and carry the team u n00b

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      gzowner1

      dale-32537 wrote:

       

      allll i can say is stop beinng crap and carry the team u n00b

      Trolling or being sarcasit. Eather way, i carried plenty of teams last night as they were all really newbies. But we manage to hold our own on TDM and a game of Domenation. When i say newbit, they were all just starting the game for the first time. level 10-40..

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    I think theirs a grey area as far as describing playing the objective.

    A guy can go through a game with 0caps and 0defends but while your capping that Bflag,if he was to take out 3 guys on their way to stop you,would this  be classed as not playing the objective also?

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      gzowner1

      dougiefaedos wrote:

       

      I think theirs a grey area as far as describing playing the objective.

      A guy can go through a game with 0caps and 0defends but while your capping that Bflag,if he was to take out 3 guys on their way to stop you,would this  be classed as not playing the objective also?

      No becaues he could have ran to the flag and cap it just as quick as the other person doing it. Faster it gets done, faster he could have gone back to finish up his tent.

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    yes.... i hate these idiots too..

    they are incompetant players ...

     

    Piss them off..

    By capturing objective, you are just prolonging the game for them. hence greater chance for them to achieve noob MOAB and higher KS rewards...instead do this

     

    when u see that some one in your team is not doing objective and just going after kills or KS rewards. Stalk them and stick behind them and continuously disclose his and ur position by firing your unsilenced weapon...