32 Replies Latest reply: Apr 6, 2012 9:07 AM by ERROR_6_ RSS

How to catch cheaters and hackers?

revilord

Last week listening to Roll Call the hosts finally mentioned cheaters. It is the first time I think they mention it. I would like to report suspected cheats but I really don't know what to look for. Does going 50 and 4 make you a cheat? Does running really fast make you a cheat? Does taking half a clip in chest and not flinching make you a cheat? Does knowing where I am when I have assassin pro on make you a cheat? Does being able to hit me with a SMG from a ridiculas distance make you a cheat?

 

Cheating in MW3 is like proving the existense of ghosts. I may have seen them but maybe it was my imagination. If they do exist how do you spot it or do it? Is anything that is being done to stop it? I hear a lot of suspions. Can it really be that big of a secrect in the age of Youtube, Twitter and Facebook? When I played WOW everyone knew how to cheat and where to download software. Then suddenly WOW banned 1000's of accounts permenantly. Ah good times. I would suspect that COD is probably doing the same.

 

Can someone confirm or deny the existences of ghosts cheaters on PSN? How is it done?

  • Re: How to catch cheaters and hackers?

    I report anybody who does anything remotely suspicious. Things like  convieniently ADSing, throwing a grenade or using a tube at just the right moment before I come around a corner (I use assassin pro and dead silence) another example are the people who always seem to know exactly where you are at all points in time. You know that guy who kills you a dozen times from behind no matter how cautious you become.

     

    Just report anybody you find suspicious.

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      r_flinchy

      Perhaps a bit over-caution, afterall the maps are small so reporting random activity such as someone getting a lucky kill from around the corner is a bit extreme.

       

      I look for the obvious cheats and general down-right-w@nkers that ruin the game, such as obvious kill spawning and clan-trap spawners who either (a) suck or (b) have nothing better to do that to get stupidly high k/d by basically not playing the game at all.

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        I have to agree with White to a point.

         

        Things I look for are the connection indicators.

        If I see someone conveniently going red every time they get in to a gun fight I tend to believe they have a lag switch.

         

        If they consistently kill with 2 bullets but take 10-12 I am pretty sure it is not lag. And it shows in the KC that they only shot a couple of times.

         

        Constant air support when the highest kills are 10 and everyone else was below 5. One clan had 6 predators within the first two minutes of a Dom match and only 1 person had more than 5 kills, he had 10. They all had pretty much equal deaths as well.

         

        Believe it or not people are still running with CFW 3.55 and Sony hasn't figured out how to catch them. Pretty disappointing too, I cannot believe it would be that hard to verify firmware version for a device connecting to your network.

         

        If I have a doubt and maybe it just was some odd things I don't report but when certain things tend to happen consistently for one person I report and let IW figure it out.

         

        Since it is against forum rules we cannot name and shame, which I tihnk should be allowed. If we have proof (and I firmly believe this would/should be required) we should be able to ruin their username. They ruined our experience online, why should they get away with it?

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          In Reply to not being able to catch firmware on a server. These people are probably running there Playstation behind a Proxy there computer is putting out giving the signiture of the correct firmware. I do know that this is how a lot of people ran aim bots on MW2 after BLOPS released.

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        Ill agree on reporting clans that spawn trap, the prob is I do not like to sit in the game and have them spawn trap me, killing my kd just to report them so that nothing happens, if i see spawn traping I leave right away.

         

        people who cheat are  not people who shoot fast or dropshot or run fast, there is a limiter in the game that will not allow you to shoot faster then humanly possible, dropshotting can be done easily with tactical button layout, and running fast is a death streak called juiced.

         

        cheaters are glitchers like invisible claymores, or player invisibility, or being able to hide inside oil trucks but still shoot out (patched)

         

        if your going to report people for shooting fast, drop shotting, or running fast, dont wasit your time they will not be banned, there is no proof you can provide that they are modded in anyway, maybe they are that good?

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    If you conviently freeze everytime you see a certain person but he doesnt and you die and the kill came sows you freeze but not him. That is a Lag Switch..

     

    If they would just give us the ability to run dedicated servers like SOCOM 2 used to it would solve a lot of glitchers and cheaters. They could run their own rooms and we could vote them if the got in our rooms.

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      Socom 2 didn't have dedicated servers. All Socom have been P2P, they just used a lobby system instead of matchmaking.


      It should be relatively easy for Sony to determine who is running behind a proxy server and determine the FW the system is really running. I know a lot are script kiddies and really don't know what they are doing, they are just copying a youtube video, so they probably are using the same proxy server as others. Should be easy to figure out when 2000 people are using the same proxy server.


      And you are correct this is how they are avoiding detection. The proxy server is "filling in" the correct information that Sony wants to see.

  • Re: How to catch cheaters and hackers?
    forsaken_life

    you guys really made me laugh,you know in dom you can capture 2 flags and with hardline pro if you get 2 assist thats a predator without even a kill?stop reporting people for just playing,thats why the real booster's don't get banned because you guys report the wrong people for just killing you

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      nah, there cheating so report them - simple as that .. dude here doesn't know what he's babbling about .. i wouldn't be suprised if he hacks as well ..

    • Re: How to catch cheaters and hackers?

      forsaken_life wrote:

       

      you guys really made me laugh,you know in dom you can capture 2 flags and with hardline pro if you get 2 assist thats a predator without even a kill?stop reporting people for just playing,thats why the real booster's don't get banned because you guys report the wrong people for just killing you

      So all of them, without dying, captured 2 points (highly unlikely) and had 2 assists for their kill streak. Remember they have to do all of this without dying and all of them were at best 1:1 KD, except for the one.

       

      Reading comprehension is a skill

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      2 captures and 2 assists with hardline pro would get you a care package not a pred.  2 assist counts as 1 toward your KS

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    darwin67

    Lots of people yell "cheat" because I can kill them...without knowing precisely where they are. It's funny actually that campers wonder how I 'knew' they were there....it doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure out the 'prime' or most 'commonly used' places and just send a precautionary grenade in that locale before entering. Also, since I play mostly HC, I watch the re-spawn cam very closely....and will often spot potential targets. So,yes, I've been accused of being a cheater, but really, I'm just observant.

     

    As for true cheating. I've reported for lag switching. It doesn't happen very often, but when it does it's so obvious it's almost shameful. In the post game lobby, even the players on the offenders team were aghast.  I've also reported for very freakish speed of the MK14...where it suddenly appears to be a fully auto machine gun, no doubt a modded controller of some kind. I don't like to report every suspcious activity....I don't want to over-burden the moderators.

    • Re: How to catch cheaters and hackers?
      IB-CAMPIN

      Take boosters out of the mix. Only about 1% of the players would actually be cheaters(hackers). I have noticed with this game there are a lot of WTF moments. IMO it's just the lag difference and host frame rate. Lag switches are easy to detect but pretty rare. Wall hacks aim-bots usually don't pop up for a while if at all.

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    Their are cheaters in this game.  I you don't count boosters that number falls alot.  Boosting is prolly the most common form you will see.  Other than that you will see lag switchers (  I have seen two so far).  And like many of them say everything will be running smoothly then all of a sudden connection will drop, it usually occurs when get near or around a particular player.  Both of the ones I seen were not blatant with it Like in past games.  They mainly only used it when someone would come after them and they new they couldn't win.

     

    Prolly the biggest one I have seen is the modded controler.  I have seen a ton of these.  I think it will eventually become an issue if it's not already.  Some I reported some I have not.  IDK if they are actualy doing anything about them or not.  They are so easy to obtain hard to really prove.  Honestly IDK if using one is actually a bannable offense or if it is just one of those frowned upon rules for matches.

    • Re: How to catch cheaters and hackers?
      IB-CAMPIN

      I would like to see the modded controllers gone, but like you said hard to prove. Boosters are the biggest issue of course. I have noticed with these small maps a lot more spawn killing. This is going to ruin the game for some. I personally would love to see this being reportable. Team spawn trapping or spawn camping is totally unfair. Can we get a spawn assist?

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    if you look for a clan called imob in psn or xbox d they will hack everything and it pisses me off bec i can never have fun with out them fing up my game and other peoples game

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    if you look for a clan called imob in psn or xbox d they will hack everything and it pisses me off bec i can never have fun with out them fing up my game and other peoples game

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    I think Ive been reported for cheating. I dont cheat. Havent even been able to play at all since last night. Says PSN is down? Finally 5 minutes aog, it lets me on psn. Now it says Cod:MW3 server is not available? go to callofduty.com/mw3/status. I go there and it says it is running fine? WTF, I dont cheat!!!!!

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    i have had some wtf moments in this, but i haven't ran into any hackers. i have had perfect games and matches where i go 40-1 with no cheats and i get reported because some idiot says he seen me glitch into a wall. i also had to stop using the mk14 because i am so sick of people crying at me about me having a fast trigger finger. the best way to know the difference between a modded controller and fast finger is all about the rythm of the shots. if it is a constant timing between every shot, it is a modded controller. if it has 2 quick shots, a gap and then another shot, it is just a fast trigger finger.

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    I don't really understand the question here, you'd like to report cheaters but you're not sure they exist ?

     

    If it's not affeceting you then I'm guessing it shouldn't be a concern.

     

    As for cheaters in the game, you'll always get people exploiting areas of the games, some go as far to make it their ambition to break or crack a game code, I've always found it funny that most serious hacks go viral a few months before the new edition is due to be released, this happened with cod4 and MW2, it's as if they do it internaly to get people fed up and move on with the promise of a new unhackable edition.

     

    Lets be honest though if it's bad coding from the devs part then we're all beta testing in the first six months, people can't wait to post it up on youtube and it gets patched, when it's  a more serious issue such as hacking, again people think it'll make them some kind of god to show a hack on their youtube channel and depending of the life of the game the devs will react as fast as they see fit to sort it out.

     

    We live in a six seconds of fame society so don't worry because 99% of the population want to be the first to find a glitch or exploit and get 6 seconds of fame by bringing it to everyones attention !!!!

    • Re: How to catch cheaters and hackers?
      sheardon

      to much reporting going on by people who dont understand the system .not everyone can be the top player all the time and getting beat is not areason to report a player.some people are just good some teams are good if you work coop all on mics that team in general will win

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    I played a guy last night who was lag switching. Didn't get his name as i quit after i got killed by him. (I'm not playing with these 'tards!!).

     

    On the kill cam i saw a team mate totally freeze and get killed and then the same thing happen to me!!!

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    boricuaboyonfiya

    can yall ples fix dis dam spawn camp sh!T 3 days in arow i been spawn camp n cant play d game cuz erverytime i play sab dats all dey do do it like BF3 switch us to d other side its like yall helpin them boost n wats up with these over powered guns wats d stat fo if u get killed bi gun gun dat says it can shoot across d map n it does

  • Re: How to catch cheaters and hackers?
    dlundebjerg28

    The most common cheaters you're gonna see are boosters. Those are the scumbags where one person sits in front of a guy with a tactical insertion and kills him over and over again as he respawns. Play infected for about a half hour and you'll run into a few of those.

     

    The next most common thing you're gonna see are lag switchers, and those are very few and far between. In 18 days played I think I've run accross two, and one of them was very questionable. I ran accross a few more in Black Ops, but being able to see theater mode in First Person for everyone made them a lot easier to detect. If somoenes using a lag switch it'll look like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pPKCng8Now

     

    As for aimbots and other hacks, I've yet to come across thos on any game but W@W. Type "aimbot MW3" into YouTube and it'll show you a ton of aimbots in action from PC so you know what to look for. I highly doubt you ever see one in action in MW3 though.

    • Re: How to catch cheaters and hackers?
      rainmaker6

      MW2 definately had aim bots. I have seen one MW2 camera recorded video on PS3 where one player got 30 plus kills all with head shots in TDM. I also played in one game where someone got every one of his kills, which was 20+, with head shots.

       

      Now with in game recordings nobody is stupid enough to make it obvious by using an aim bot that will get head shots every time. But I have personally seen aim bots in MW2, absolutely, no doubt, believe it or not, and I doubt there is anything in MW3, except the recording system, that makes it any harder in MW3 to cheat.

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    I report any boosters in game and send a copy of the vid to bancandy, I as well have yet to come across anything that is in-game hacking.

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    something interesting happened last night when i was playing  tdm bootleg .. 4 people from the other team called in care packages at the same time i believe 3 of them were in a clan.. but i just found it very odd i had never seen that before and i have logged in about 7 days of playtime ... now i am not in a clan my team was a bunch of randos needless to say we got smashed 3500 -7500 and i was the only one in the positive i went 14-6 which on bootleg i usually do about 17-22 and single digits deaths but i just didnt know i thought it was weird i have never seen that before the mini map was literally covered with the little red helicopters and what i thought was also really wierd is .. it was only maybe 45 seconds to maybe 2 minutes  into the game

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    Thesandman

    I only report boosters,should they be (A) normal boosters (B) TI boosters or (C) Riot shield boosters. Is having a modded controller cheating,as in will it get someone banned?

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    rlbl

    I report boosters, but I will also save a video (sometimes if they pissed me off).  If I do not see them get reset after awhile, I send the vid to Bancandy...  Sometimes I feel bad when I see they have been reset (well not really)

     

    I have been reported for winning : Once we did a half decent job coming back for a win after we were down in KC. Someone on the other (said) they were reporting all of us. Reported for winning? LOL? (I did not care)

     

    When I 1st hit 10/80 I got reported because my score was so low. This was before people understood the specialist class and the mega XP for completing the specialist challenges. I do not blame them for reporting me, but lol!?

     

    I have reported lag switchers. This one is tricky. When someone is host using a switch it is obvious (and people are smart so they do not do it as much). When they are not, it is hard to tell. I have been wrong so I do not report many; but I have been right and I was happy to see them get reset.

     

    I never report people for WTF!? moments because this game is so laggy. 90% of the time I saw someone run around the corner and insta-lock on me and kill me, I watch the kill cam to see: he came around the corner, looked around, saw me and dumped a clip in me while I sat there with my finger in my ear. That is LAG and not worth wasting anyone's time reporting.  If you report for this you are the reason it takes so long for the real boosters/cheaters to get banned.

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    rustyroot

    This is a difficult one owing to the inconsistency of the game. The lag especially if your host is so bad it makes me want to pull my eyes out. I've been told that I've been reported lots of times and yet I'm still gaming. I know next to jack **** about modding, hacking and lag switches etc and yet if I have a good game then I'm hated nearly as much as activision and reported for cheating.

    Until the game connection improves I wont report anyone, I just quit and find another lobby.