43 Replies Latest reply: Aug 1, 2012 9:31 PM by Film_Not_Rated RSS

why do people believe k/d is everything

so i started playing this game back in january. this was my 1st cod game. and i didnt know what to do. Like always i died alot camp my ass off like a noob and had a k/d of .10. So now my k/d is 1.5 and people higher up believe i must suck because they have 2 k/d and higher and i end up beating them. do you think k/d really matter in this game. i just thinkit ruins the game.

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    SitRepPro

    It doesn't separate it from different game modes.  I've known people who prefer Domination because it's easier to control the spawns, apparently.  Plus players will be near flags so when I played COD4 and whole enemy team were using silencers I just placed an air strike on an enemy flag and I mostly got the chopper straight away, especially Ground War with maps like Bog, especially B flag.

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    banned-again

    k/d ratio matters to everyone, anyone who says any different id full of crap

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      trialstardragon

      No, K/D and W/L do not matter to everyone. Some of us are old enough to know they mean nothing outside of the game. And so we only play for fun. So do not make such silly assumptions as that.

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        banned-again

        chances are im proberlys older than you and i also remember when people used to play for fun and thats the reason i said everyone cares about there k/d ratio because at the end of the day we all play for fun and where the fun if your dying every 2 seconds.

         

        so yes in some ways k/d does matter some people might take it to the extreme by camping and not playing objectives i myself am happy if i come out with one more kill then my deaths but i wont camp or risk losing to do so but i always try to go positive in a game

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    Zacinnc78

    it only matters in non objective games  ....i play tdm almost exlusively so i do keep an eye on my kd

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    Zacinnc78

    also my bs meter is rising pretty high when u say this is your first cod game and u have a 1.5 since january

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    nicedrewishfela

    Its become a form of ePeen. People think it matters, but in the larger scheme of things, it really doesn't. Stats can be manipulated in this game. Is the guy with the 4.0 K/D who doesn't play the objective on Dom but sits back and gets kills better than the guy with the 1.1 K/D who plays TDM without camping?

     

    I think everyone wants to do well, and K/D is a decent measure of that, as is Win/Loss ratio. But there is always a bigger picture. While there are those outstanding players who can use any weapon and have success, there are also those who always use the same weapon, never prestige, camp in corners, boost, or abuse objective modes to increase their K/D. There are people who dashboard to preserve their precious K/D. Its become kind of a joke.

     

    I find it very liberating to just not care about my K/D anymore. I go into every game and do the best I can to be successful, but I don't stress out about my numbers anymore. I play to have fun. I use various weapons and setups, and often play by myself when my friends are not online.

     

    I understand why some people care a lot about it, but its a sign of poor character when they try to lord it over someone else with a lower K/D. Its always sad to see someone in a lobby who just got it handed to him yelling about how his K/D is higher than someone else in the room. Whats the point? Who cares? Why not just say good game and move on?

     

    It doesn't ruin the game, it ruins the community, who in turn suck the fun out of the game.

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         I don't think K/D matters, but I like to keep mine up for my Clan. If I wasn't in a clan, I wouldn't care for my K/D too much.

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    electricfuneralfire

    If you play solo a 1.5 KD is pretty exceptional. If you play with a team its kinda so so.

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    creaper21

    I think it means more than W/L. But with that said, it doesn't mean much. Usually when I see someone with a 3.0 or higher, they just dashboard when I beat them anyways.

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    Kill/death is simply a measuring stick for your own progress. It really is just a reflection of who you are in the game, HOWEVER, your haters may have a higher kill/death ratio but--like you point out--it's not an ACCURATE measure of the opposing player's competency in getting the same kills during the actual gameplay where you're playing and actually killing people. So, if you are only running around using only bullets (okay, bullets and grenades, etc. (lethal equipment)) then you're making a valid point; in that, K:D ratio MAY fail to accurately reflect your opponent’s actual gameplay ability because it's also taking into account other ways (not just gun kills) that count towards kill/death--they get a kill streak of a predator missile or a sentry gun, for instance...

    The caveat to that is that your haters will just up the ante and say it takes a lot of skill to shoot that missile, or place that sentry gun where it will do a lot of damage. Plus they had to actually "get the kills in order to get the kill streaks", ad nauseam...and so on and on the argument goes. I for one think K:D is cool. I use it to keep myself going. BTW, I only use the Specialist kill streak, if that matters to anybody in this thread.

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    i kind of worry about my k/d but not really, like i want it to be a decent .90 but w/l doesn;t matter because people leave games early to go do other stuff such as sports, or hang with friends adn when you leave it counts as a loss (as we all know) but i liked what they did in black ops when they put your k/d on the score board because that way it would puch me to do better and only worry about that game.

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    K/D doesn't mean anything. I only rush and play like I am on speed and just **** all those corner camping kids who have to then "dashboard" to keep their "K/D." If you dash to keep your "K/D", then it isn't a true K/D. Plus, who the hell cares about stupid game stats, just play the game like a MAYON and run around and have fun.

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    chris_shanahan87

    It's used as a measure of how good a player you are. However, it should be noted that it's often used in the wrong way.

     

    The general consensus is that the higher your K/D ratio is the better you are, when in fact it's quite the opposite. So in that sense it is useful if you want to see how respectable a player is, the higher their K/D ratio is the more likely they dashboard, exploit glitches and overpowered weapons, camp, and generally play too often.

     

    Personally I couldn't care less about my K/D. I play for fun not competitively.

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    bsk5150

    A good KDR simply means you camp in objective based games and cause your team to lose.  End of story.

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    doesnt matter, kd can be manipulated

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    GALACT1C0s117

    I play solo mainly and I hava a 1.57 kd. MW3 is my first COD although I used to play counter strike on the old xbox. but anyways I think it's possible to have a positive kd and play the objective, but also like someone says it can be easily manipulated, for example I use specialist mainly because i like to get my own kills but a few games I played with assault using cobra, pavelow, and osprey in about two games my kd went up a lot but I got bored and stop using it bacause basically my killstreaks got me all the kills. so kd doesnt show how good people are in this game.

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    codchamp

    Good K/D + Good W/L = God of COD! get it right peeps!

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    Because if your kd is bad, your a trash stupid worthless human being.

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    I honestly thing Kevin Durant is very important in society.

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    Honestly, it's hilarious when you beat someone badly 3 times in a row, and it doesn't matter because kd is bad and thus your "trash", and so they actually won.  Cod logic--don't ask me -.-

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    so does kd matter when someone is level 6 non presitge and have a kd of 10.00. some clans requires a kd of 2 and above. Is kd still important??

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    i've seen people with some decent k/ds before and yet they had awesome PPM totals on the leaderboards so k/d doesn't really matter.    

    P.S PPM stands for Points Per Minute

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      ppm doesn't matter in this game. If you play snd, you're bound to have a low spm because you get the same score per kill as domination and etc. In blops, it worked because you actually got 500 points

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        codchamp

        Actually SPM ( the correct term ) has no value what so ever imo. It only shows who did what in the time frame. Example: TDM, Player #1 is rushing and killing fast maybe geting 7 kills per minute then he would have a 700 SPM. But what if that player is also going 15-20 every game? It does not mean he is good, just that he killed 7 players per minute. Now if player #2 has a average of 200 SPM. It means he killd 2 players per minute. but maybe he played careful and went 15-2 every game helping out more than player 1.

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    TheJamboX

    It's simple, those that are good players care about their K/D. And then there are bad players who camp, glitch, use "op" weapons etc. But most people say that K/D doesn't matter since their K/D isn't that good. I have a 2.04 K/D but I don't think that's good. Most kills with P90 and I like to Run n Gun.

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    Jimmienoman

    Me and a few friends run about 1-1.25 K/D, but usually play objective based games. We seem to regularly beat the 2+ k/d groups. That and SnD is usually our poison of choice. We don't sitrep or nubetoob so we usually have 1 person that is fodder to draw out the others. We also gladly die if it means they can't get to the bomb in time or just try to preoccupy them and not try for the kill if it keeps them away from the objective.

     

    So in short. No K/D don't mean anything. Especially if you solo online.

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    Lunartrick79

    I have a 1.55 kd does it mean im bad nope not all.K/D...W/L...SPM... are all stats that honestly dont mean anything.When you go into the real world and you apply for a job you gunna put in your special abilities that you have a 2.0 kdr on call of duty? Nope most people have lost sight that this is JUST A GAME and nothing more.And grown men who scream into there mics and tell you your bad need a reality check.If anyone thinks SPM...K/D....W/L means anything then you seriously need a reality check.Its just a game....and most people have lost sight of that.

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      Jimmienoman

      As a funny side note, when I worked at a local mexican restraint I had the head of surgeons for OSU come in every Friday night to have a Margarita. He told me that when going into robotic surgery they ASK if you have video game experience. Apparently there is a few studies (main one fom Duke) that say surgeons with heavy previous video game experience have a 40% quicker learning curve then those without gaming experience. These studies are still being disputed though, but hey it's something.

       

      While in the end they showed that both surgeons would be on par, those with gaming experience learned much quicker.

       

      Likewise when designing a UAV with a gun attatched, one of the armed forces used a modified Xbox 360 controller to control it. Their stated mindset was to make the controls as easy to pick up and be proficient with as possible. So they said they used "something that most already knew how to use".

       

       

      So when your mom said that playing video games would never amount to anything, you can prove her wrong now.

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    K/D means absolutly nothing at all. COD is a video game you play to have fun. I have a 2.15 K/D, do I care? No, I wouldnt care even if it was .10. All I want to do is rush and gather as many kills possible in the shortest amount of time with a few buddys. Unless your getting paid enough money to live off that high K/D of yours, it means absolutly nothing. I usually play solo SnD and Ground war and the only thing I care about is having fun and rushing constantly.

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    Swaggin412

    The main reason I play COD is to have fun, after all it is a game. However I could careless about my KD, I want to do good but I play to win and much more satisfied wih winning. Now if I'm playing TDM then I have to care about my KD somewhat because I don't want my team to lose, but if I go 30-3 and lose I'm not satisfied. I play mostly Demo, plenty of times I've put myself in the position of dying if it means we'll win.

     

    Now during clan ops all I care about is getting that gold or hopefully champion badge, I don't care where I place. I have a level 34 clan with 1 maybe 2 people (24 total) with a 2+ KD, most of which are 1.5-, and so far I've say we've been pretty successful. My clan doesn't have a KD requirement, I played with people that have high KDs but are terrible teammates, then I've played with people that have lower KDs that I enjoyed playing with more and actually won more games with. My KD is only 1.00, The player I enjoy playing with the most only has a KD of 0.65 but it's a lot of fun to play with him and we win more together.

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    Swaggin412

    I love playing Demo and having games where my team has crappy KDs yet we still win. Then then other team talks trash about how bad we are, really? You just lost, since when is it okay to brag about being a loser?

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    Brian_Eyekon

    K/D means jack sht to me and so does W/L in the end its just a game meant 2 played 2 have fun with friends.

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    Film_Not_Rated

    It shouldn't matter, and it somewhat matters in FFA/TDM since they are kill based, but even then its not always accurate because of the fact people Dash.

     

    Dashing pretty much cancels out K/D even though there are people with legit 3+ in FFA/TDM even though some in TDM need good teams to back up their possible camp style.

     

    Besides that W/L imo will always be the better stat, but Dashing also effects that to in this game for some reason.

     

    Always nice seeing my friend with a 2117 win streak because of this.

     

    -_-