45 Replies Latest reply: Jan 17, 2013 5:39 AM by DaveW RSS

One-Shot Weapons Rant

vxAlex

There is situations where skill does not affect the outcome of a gunfight. One shot weapons.

Why is it fair that when i play well, get an 11 gunstreak, take the whole team out, almost twice. That someone can camp in a corner with Flack Jacket and a Shotgun.

What do i do if i walk into a building, knowing where hes camping, jump round the corner then dropshot with an SMG, and he just fires once, and not accurately, and kills me with the abscence of skill.

 

How is this fair? It kills gameplay and stops momentum. And worst of all, i have to run across the WHOLE map just to find that his friend is now doing it.

I even try throwing C4's round the corner, but he has flack jacket so there is no point.

I have stunned, C4'd and dropshotted, but im no match for his shotgun.

Is that really balanced treyarch.

 

B23R Akimbo. Exact same story as a shotgun... Except, it can be used aswell as a shotgun.

 

I also think snipers are too easy to use, but i wont go into that.

/rant

What are your opinions on one shot weapons?

  • Re: One-Shot Weapons Rant
    CowboySr

    Overkill, use 870 as secondary, then go back and delete this post.

    • Re: One-Shot Weapons Rant
      vxAlex

      So the 10 point create a class, is now an 8 point create a class, and i am no longer allowed to use FHJ to be able to compete on a level playing field? Is that what you are saying

      • Re: One-Shot Weapons Rant
        CowboySr

        Cant think of what FHJ is cause its late in the day. My point is that the guns are all a but different. If I run out in the open on Yemen I risk the chance of getting sniped. If like to swerve through the streets of yemen , I should use an smg, if I want to camp behind a car on yemen and wait for people I might consider using a LMG or AR, but If decide Im gonna run into buildings where people sit with shotguns, I should bring one too.  So Im suggesting you run SMG overkill 870, or stay where the class youve built is meant to perform at its best.

  • Re: One-Shot Weapons Rant
    HTMURAZ

    i personally do not use shotguns but they seem a little better than on the previous cod title. as for one shot weapons, i use the fal and smr with select fire and fmj...not bad at all. the scar is very good although it be sluggish and cumbersome. like i said in a previous post, hopefully there will be a hotfix out just before the dlc is released which is usually the norm. this should possibly correct the issues that the 21 hotfix created.

  • Re: One-Shot Weapons Rant
    myevo8you

    If you know where the guy is camping and you are on a high killstreak then the best tactic is to AVOID that player. This is where a LOT of the complaints about campers come into play. Say a player camps at the laundromat spawn on slums. If the enemy team keeps coming to him and they keep getting killed, who is at fault? If I know a player is camping in an obscure place and I can avoid it I will NOT go anywhere near them. Our team plays this way too. If we find a player/team is camping we AVOID where they are camping at. We will take a lead, retreat and cut the map in 1/2 and make them come out if they want to win.

  • Re: One-Shot Weapons Rant
    nicedrewishfela

    If you can get the shot off before some of the weapons that spew bullets, more power to you.

     

    Another "I got killed and I didn't like it" thread.

  • Re: One-Shot Weapons Rant
    Jollyjugs77

    dude it is called straetgy, are they suppose to run around and let you get your dogs adn swarm and wait for you and stop your streak, it a game people are gunna do crap you do not like.

     

     

    that like me saying omg snipers its not fair they are on hit kill from distance, what if i am one kill away from swarm and they pick me off!!!

     

     

    com'on man stop crying and play better

  • Re: One-Shot Weapons Rant
    dstr001

    Sorry OP, but thats how those wepoans work IRL; there would be no point in them if they didn't play as they do.

     

    Granted, sniper rifles are a tad too easy to use in this game, but shotguns still only kill in a close quarters environment, apart from the KSG, but that has to be used the same way as a sniper rifle, albeit with less range.

  • Re: One-Shot Weapons Rant
    maccabi

    vxAlex wrote:

     

     

    What do i do if i walk into a building, knowing where hes camping,

    if it was me on an 11 killstreak not walk into the building and try being a twatty drop shooter and let someone else deal with him

    • Re: One-Shot Weapons Rant
      snorubit

      Yes. If I felt I couldn't take him or her out for whatever reason then I would look for somebody else to kill. Play to your strengths not weaknesses.

       

      Now, I have not had a problem against shotgun classes myself but that's a whole other can of worms. I do admit that I have enjoyed using them since COD4 though.

  • Re: One-Shot Weapons Rant
    NoLifeKing29

    Weak complaint. Play HC so OHKs wont upset you as much.

  • Re: One-Shot Weapons Rant
    MoonUnit

    OP jumps around corners, is using an SMG, dropshots, and throws C4. Sounds like you're a total try-hard and are just upset that someone is beating you. If you can't beat 'em, join 'em.

  • Re: One-Shot Weapons Rant
    Jollyjugs77

    op watch dodge ball the movie, it teaches you how to dodge everything, get your skill up, i have no problem killing anyone in this game, dont run and gun in a building play smart throw flashes c4 nades sensor do what every you have to to get the job done, no one likes a complainer!!!

  • Re: One-Shot Weapons Rant

    I was going to join your rant with an addition about quickscoping (guy just dropped two of us, me with a hmg and the other guy had an smg, point blank with a bolt action rifle. He didn't even no scope when I watched the kill cam, all you saw on his screen was him doing the truffle shuffle and dodging every single bullet while he casualy zooms in and head shots us from 3 inches away - frustrating) but after reading your rant...Flack jacket and shotgun you say? Cheers bud!

     

    seriously though I wish I'd saved that clip and put it in slow-mo with 'who wants to live forever' by queen playing in the background

  • Re: One-Shot Weapons Rant

    If all guns did the same damage with the same amount of bullets at the same range....why would there be a need for more than 1 gun in the game.  Unless they are using a KSG, then your SMG or AR will get them at a distance, but in close quarters shotguns are what they are Extremely powerful one shot weapons...that's why there is one next to my bed.

     

    I am surprised noone has blamed your complaint on LAG, Bahahahahaha!!!

  • Re: One-Shot Weapons Rant
    iivrruummii

    I see nothing wrong with shotguns being good for close quarters.  Same with pistols.

  • Re: One-Shot Weapons Rant
    T-boss

    shotguns work at close rnage. the only reason tehy are being used for camping is corner camping spots in rooms are usualy close range, making shotguns ideal.

     

    but they arnt hard to deal with. OHK weapons have much more restriction than other weapons, only issue is 3arch got rid of some of those restrictions or lessened them greatly. for shotguns remington and KSG lost alot of their high risk/high reward gameplay, low pump speed will fix that some. there is no all or nothing shotgun, liky the rangers in MW2 or olympia in BO. the S12 and 4burst are fine power wise, they should be weaker and outguned at shorter ranges, but lack the high risk if you screw up.

     

    snipers need LMG ADS time. then they will be fine.

    • Re: One-Shot Weapons Rant
      vxAlex

      I agree, i suppose i didnt make it clear that i think 3arc made shotguns so good, expecting people to rush with them, but people camp with them and even when rushing, its easy to do well with them. COD4 hit the nail on the head. M1014 wasnt OP for semi auto W1200 had good pump time, bullet spread the lot!

      My suggestion to 3arc would be to make the pump slower and make dexterity or lightweight do shotgun pumps at the current speed because that takes up valuable perk slots which i think would make shotgunning more 'fightable'

       

      *EDIT*

      for those saying its fine because its realistic. If you have experienced use with a shotgun in real life you would know that when you fire it(unless sawed off) the lead pellets dont go everywhere, infact they go in quite a straight line, so dont try that one.

      • Re: One-Shot Weapons Rant
        Bielsalmighty

        So even though the R870, the best of the shottys, is statistically inferior to pretty much every other CoDs best shotgun, it still needs to be nerfed? Sorry, no.

         

        Oh, and comparing a game to real life doesn't validate your point any; If you have experienced a gunfight in real life, you'd know that you dont respawn when someone puts 3 bullets in your face. See?

  • Re: One-Shot Weapons Rant
    nintendon't

    You're complaining about a shotgunner while abusing an easy SMG? Really? You're both scrubs.

  • Re: One-Shot Weapons Rant
    xxxdcleaterxxx

    poor drop shotter gets snuffed by a shotty, what's the problem? 

  • Re: One-Shot Weapons Rant
    Restore_Hardcore

    Kick dirt in his eyes and cast a spell on him when he is stunned. Or do what I do, tube em.

  • Re: One-Shot Weapons Rant
    ThatIdiot

    So you are on a 11 killstreak, using a smg while dropshotting and you complain about someone who uses a shotgun because he is sick of you in-game?

     

    Gtfo

  • Re: One-Shot Weapons Rant
    Bielsalmighty

    Pro tip - shotgun range gunfights should be avoided as a general rule of thumb, just in case they have a shotty. If someone wants to sit in a corner with FJ, sod it, let em. Call it out to your team and let everyone avoid them so they either have a real boring game or get up and move.

  • Re: One-Shot Weapons Rant

    I love them. In fact I have a class specifically set up which includes 2 of these type weapons. Overkill with a shotgun and sniper rifle. Its a great set up and you should try it. Especially with a Guardian!

  • Re: One-Shot Weapons Rant
    DR65DR

    I run a pistol-only class for certain maps and use the Tac .45 or Five Seven (I hate the spammers' pistols: B23R and Kap-40) and only play Hardcore. If I posted a thread up every time I got killed by someone… well, this would be a busy board.

  • Re: One-Shot Weapons Rant
    lPikachu

    Perfectly fair, ive been annoyed by shottys killing me in one hit before swarms (the last few days it seems there has been massive increase in the use of shottys) But if you go into their range its your fault, and the KSG has plenty of bad things so you cant complain about the range on that

     

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      If you know where the guy is camping and you are on a high killstreak then the best tactic is to AVOID that player

       

    This is what you should do. I always avoid long range pathways when i know there is a sniper at the end, and avoid going into houses where i know someone has a 870. Its your own fault if you fall victim to these specialised weapons, you should be telling your self to play smarter, not complaining about the weapons.

    • Re: One-Shot Weapons Rant
      Bielsalmighty

      CoDlogic101: The player is never at fault, always the game, game balance, cheap tactics of others, lag, or a mixture of any and all of the aforementioned factors.

    • Re: One-Shot Weapons Rant

      Exactly right, If i equip the Remmy I expect to get easy kills within buildings and in tight situations so I play my game based on how its going to turn out best for me. I'm not going to run out into the open with a shotty and try and 'test its range'.

       

      Equip over kill and have the best of both worlds..... short and long range.

  • Re: One-Shot Weapons Rant
    sgtDLC

    Flashbang, concusion, then enter the house and kill him, problem solved

    • Re: One-Shot Weapons Rant

      Wouldn't work on me ......I rarely run any class that does not include Tac mask and Jug Vest.  I don't get players who run the marathon or extreme conditioning the maps are small enough as it is and they are littered with claymores' betties and shocks.