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  • 50. Re: Why wouldn't the forum of your product support YouTube commentators promoting your product?
    maccabi

    Foxhound-Pro wrote:

     

    This is what we've worked on. It's a bit more wordy and hopefully outlines things much better.

     

    Hello Community,

     

    We recognize and understand the importance of multimedia on our forums. Below you will find the revised guidelines for a few of the most common ways that our past users have deployed their content. We'll do our best to communicate our expectations here.

     

    We can and will enforce this document as we do the Code of Conduct and the Terms of Use. However, it will not conflict with either of those two documents.

     

    Please keep the below in mind as you post and understand that we have the right to remove or edit anything at our sole discretion.

     

    Important General Information

     

    Spamming of any sense in regards to multimedia content will result in a posting suspension and the removal of all of your content. The length of the suspension is at our discretion.(Spamming includes asking our forum for subscriptions or follows.)

     

    Our community reserves the right to dislike provided content within reason. Reports against our community for justified criticism will result in the removal of your thread.

     

    Posted videos are subject to our Community Guidelines, Code of Conduct and Terms of Use.

     

    Thread Type Guidelines

     

    Discussion Pieces

     

    We have heavily outlined that our community is of the typed discussion format. Thus we would like you to follow the grain and present the content of the video as a summary below the link or the embed.

     

    Yes, we understand that some videos are long and some concepts need to be paraphrased. We're okay with this, but a six minute video is not effectively described in two sentences. If you care about the content you're bringing, then you will meet this expectation. It is a simple request.

     

    Yes, this includes commentaries too.

     

    Showcase / Streaming Pieces

     

    Similar to the above, we would like a description of your content. What you did or what you intend to do is generally what we're looking for. Engage our community and see if anyone else has done this or will do this as well. You need to put some effort into this written portion, but it should be a piece of cake.

     

    Quality / Feedback Inquiries

     

    These were at one point standalone and allowed to exist, but were exploited to gain views. Thus we have retracted our initial position of allowing them and ask for you to consider the following. - Please conduct this along with your presentation of the above two situations. This allows for a deeper field of discussion along side any points or challenges you bring with the video. Videos that lack a description and simply ask for feedback will be removed.

     

    Posting Guidelines


    One thread is all you need per video. If you're going to create a series, please create a single thread for this series and update as you go along.

     

    Posting in the correct sub-forum is important. If the video is related to a particular platform, then post it in the platform's sub-forum. If you need to reach a general audience, then the index or general sections will do quite well.

     

    Bumping your video or creating artificial discussion, yes we will find out either immediately or over time, is discouraged. This can and will lead to action taken against your thread and forum account.

     

    Moderator Advice

     

    I've been around since CharlieOscarDelta. I can tell you that our forum is saturated with people who have watched trickshots, large killfeeds and cross-map projectiles netting awesome kills. So don't expect an amazing response when you post your content. Unless you've got something original, the math is against your favor for people who will want to watch it. Our community will however offer you tips, advice, and discussion on how to better your progress or the ideas you present in your videos. We encourage you to seek this from us. You need only remain respectful and humble to gather positive and civil discussion.

     

    two thumbs up

  • 51. Re: Why wouldn't the forum of your product support YouTube commentators promoting your product?
    trialstardragon

    I can agree with your first view, those kinds of videos are less annoying and some times interesting to watch. Like you I feel the rest do not belong here. And like you I feel that if anyone really wants to watch any CoD video's on YT you can easily find them using search on there. So there is not much of a need for there to be a forum here to allow the other two types of video's, for all they really are for is to just farm views and subs and likes. We have enough farming in this game as it is with kill farmers that do nothing more than play to pad their k/d in objective game modes.

  • 52. Re: Why wouldn't the forum of your product support YouTube commentators promoting your product?
    trialstardragon

    Not to wordy at all, hardly even compares to one of my wall-o-texts in the past. But it is better written and easily understandable. I thank you for taking the time to write this out to give a better guidline to go by. I am not against YT videos if they fit the reasons stated in your post. It is the ones that are just here to farm views, subs, likes or to just show off a some elite skillz that have been done by so many other people that really annoy me and probably others the most. I click the link thinking maybe it is something worth watching only to find it is a wolf in sheeps fur sometimes.

  • 53. Re: Why wouldn't the forum of your product support YouTube commentators promoting your product?

    Foxhound-Pro wrote:

     

    Gave the thread a read.

     

    HotDogRodeo, you seem to not understand our forum's policies or who we moderators even are.

     

      1. We have policies which allow YouTube content. (YouTube & Streaming Guidelines)
      2. We're not developers or marketing members of Activision.

     

    That stated, I personally think you did a terrible job at discussing this topic and the request. You apparently opened up by calling us Nazis and you even went so far as to insult someone based on their name. I watched you defend YouTube from generalizations and found logical discussion, but I'm going to throw you into a generalization right now. You acted arrogant, disrespectful, and seem ignorant of or simply choose to disregard our rules. You're acting like the YouTube members our forum has come to dislike. Clean that up please.

     

    Here are my views on why I would not include a YouTube sub-forum.

     

      • YouTube users are competitive for views and subscriptions.
        • This would naturally result in spam.
        • This would create conflict as users criticize eachother's videos.
        • This would drown out "normal" YouTube participation.

     

      • Many YouTube users have a secondary agenda.
        • Users that are "partnered" with other groups are paid per view.
          • They come here to farm for views to receive money.
          • The tactics for above are unsavory and deceitful.
        • Users come here to "build" their following.
          • These users have little interest in our forum. (Like those farming for the money.)
          • These users beg for subs, comments and views.

     

      • This would be a waste of both our time and your time.
        • Like the clan section it would be a mosh pit and chaotic. (Something we're looking at.)
        • Moderation spent on the first two bullet points is wasted effort.
          • Why take time to moderate a sub-forum like that when we can take time to monitor our core platforms and core features.

     

    We are revising our YouTube guidelines. They're a bit more relaxed and I'll happily show them here once I've made some edits.

     

    I'll also take this time to state that some of our users are much more strict than we are. Taking our rules and applying them to contact that we find ok.

     

    I'm off to make some edits.

     

    Edit: I also want to include that YouTube has definitely helped to promote games, but that does not mean that our forum owes anything to YouTube.

    First of all I apologized for calling you Nazi's and edited the post and removed that part.. No mention of that in your response. I am sure you noticed it but I guess it made you mad so you chose to ignore it? You can say whatever you want about me being arrogant, disrespectful, etc. That's fine. I don't need you to like me.

     

    I believe that some of the things you mentioned could happen. But if you are going to shrug off a sub-forum because it is too much work and generalize evreyone who is on YouTube, that is your right.

    However, since we can't have a YouTube sub-forum, could you make a sub-forum about lag/lag comp/connection issues because that is doing more to clutter this entire Forum than anything else.

    I am well aware of the fact that you aren't devs or marketing execs... you run the Forum which is why this whole thread was about a sub-forum.

     

    I don't have to agree with your views, and what exactly should I clean up? Which rules did I break, exactly?

     

    Well, at least this arrogant, disrespectful, ignorant person got something done. Even if it wasn't a sub-forum. You did a much better job with that draft of the YouTube guidelines. That is at least progress. Thank You.

  • 54. Re: Why wouldn't the forum of your product support YouTube commentators promoting your product?
    Foxhound-Pro

    HotDogRodeo wrote:

     

    Foxhound-Pro wrote:

     

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    First of all I apologized for calling you Nazi's and edited the post and removed that part.. No mention of that in your response. I am sure you noticed it but I guess it made you mad so you chose to ignore it? You can say whatever you want about me being arrogant, disrespectful, etc. That's fine. I don't need you to like me.

     

    I believe that some of the things you mentioned could happen. But if you are going to shrug off a sub-forum because it is too much work and generalize evreyone who is on YouTube, that is your right.

    However, since we can't have a YouTube sub-forum, could you make a sub-forum about lag/lag comp/connection issues because that is doing more to clutter this entire Forum than anything else.

    I am well aware of the fact that you aren't devs or marketing execs... you run the Forum which is why this whole thread was about a sub-forum.

     

    I don't have to agree with your views, and what exactly should I clean up? Which rules did I break, exactly?

     

    Well, at least this arrogant, disrespectful, ignorant person got something done. Even if it wasn't a sub-forum. You did a much better job with that draft of the YouTube guidelines. That is at least progress. Thank You.

     

    I stated that you did poorly because of the things that you did. It doesn't matter that you reversed them, I'm glad that you had the decency to do so, because you spoiled your argument and footing by taking that route. It doesn't anger us or hurt our feelings, but it does cause your arguments and points to be taken with less respect. It's all about presentation when making a persuasive argument. You failed at that. - Grade school English. When writing a persuasive essay you do not insult your target audience,

     

    Regarding you asking about infractions: Please try reading our rules and then re-reading what I said to you.

     

     

    It's true that you don't have to agree with my opinions, but my opinions dictate your ability to post on your current account. If you want to be a part of our forum, then you should definitely clean up.

  • 55. Re: Why wouldn't the forum of your product support YouTube commentators promoting your product?

    Many YouTube users have a secondary agenda.

    • Users that are "partnered" with other groups are paid per view.
      • They come here to farm for views to receive money.
      • The tactics for above are unsavory and deceitful.

     

     

     

     

    The point above, I'm guessing....is probably the BIGGEST reason for no youtube sub-forum.

  • 56. Re: Why wouldn't the forum of your product support YouTube commentators promoting your product?

    Read them. Stil didn't do anything wrong. My opinions and viewpoints were insulted first. Maybe you should go back and read the thread again. I did nothing different than anyone else. I am guessing you are partial to RedNeckSniper? You act like you are doing someone a favor for doing your JOB.

     

    Thanks again for changing the wording of the YouTube guidelines. I am glad I could be of service.

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