38 Replies Latest reply: Apr 5, 2013 3:15 PM by g3NxDD RSS

Top 5 problems with Black Ops 2... (MP)

g3NxDD

1.  RE-SPAWN... some of these maps are so small there's not enough places to re-spawan, without being gunned down immediately. (Hydro is worst to date).  You guys gotta start making larger maps, or allow for TACTICAL INSERTION to be undetectable by enemy (unless enemy eq. w/ ENGINEER).

Re-spawning within sight of an enemy seems to be the biggest problem with this game... bi-product of maps being to small, or not clever enough design to allow for safe re-spawn locations. (not all maps)

 

2.  DAMAGE...  I don't care what paramaters DEVS have set for the gun damage ratings, but if I shoot a guy in the neck...he aint standing, regardless of range.  Anywhere above the heart needs to be 1 shot kill. (limbs excluded)

 

3.  STATS...  If I leave a game, the KDR counts against me if it's negative.......If I leave a game, and KDR is positive IT DOESN'T COUNT!!!.....FIX THIS!!  Same BS if a game leaves me... or lost connection... stats are only applied to my record when they're negative????

 

4.  ATTACHMENTS...  If you're not going to give us a FAST MAG on an LMG.... then at least compensate by allowing the (already built in) FORE GRIP to be Standard, and not count against a pick.   TARGET FINDER???....disable this after level 11, just like "boot camp", seriously... 

No SMG + MMS + FMJ???, what's the point?...that's not any different than some jerk with: LMG + TF + FMJ, just blasting thgough walls and cars!

 

5.  MAPS...  I feel like a fish in a bowl on "GRIND"...  I get mowed down immediately after re-spawning at least 4 times per game on "HYDRO"...

You guys get these map ideas...that are full of potential...then you make them linear as hell!!! 

 

 

DISCLAIMER:  I bought Battlefield 3 finally one month ago for the first time.  In trial, I've come to remain loyal to the COD franchise for my FP shooters, they are my favorite.  This is no comparison to BF3, I do not see them as equal in any way shape or form, and have yet to play a game on either that resembled the other. This is coming from a guy in his 30's, and someone who's big on attention to detail.  If you guys wanna keep your older customers happy...ya gotta step up your game.  The kiddies don't see the errors like we do... and since mom and dad aren't purchasing our games for us, it would be nice to have this game perform to its highest potential, and make us feel good about where we spend our money....come PS4 this fall:--)

  • Re: Top 5 problems with Black Ops 2... (MP)

    g3NxDD wrote:

     

    1.  RE-SPAWN... some of these maps are so small there's not enough places to re-spawan, without being gunned down immediately. (Hydro is worst to date).  You guys gotta start making larger maps, or allow for TACTICAL INSERTION to be undetectable by enemy (unless enemy eq. w/ ENGINEER).

    Re-spawning within sight of an enemy seems to be the biggest problem with this game... bi-product of maps being to small, or not clever enough design to allow for safe re-spawn locations. (not all maps)

    Tru dat

     

    2.  DAMAGE...  I don't care what paramaters DEVS have set for the gun damage ratings, but if I shoot a guy in the neck...he aint standing, regardless of range.  Anywhere above the heart needs to be 1 shot kill. (limbs excluded)

    this is an arcade shoter (not real) if you want somthing a little more real you got BF3.

     

    3.  STATS...  If I leave a game, the KDR counts against me if it's negative.......If I leave a game, and KDR is positive IT DOESN'T COUNT!!!.....FIX THIS!!  Same BS if a game leaves me... or lost connection... stats are only applied to my record when they're negative????

    Agree

     

    4.  ATTACHMENTS...  If you're not going to give us a FAST MAG on an LMG.... then at least compensate by allowing the (already built in) FORE GRIP to be Standard, and not count against a pick.   TARGET FINDER???....disable this after level 11, just like "boot camp", seriously... 

    No SMG + MMS + FMJ???, what's the point?...that's not any different than some jerk with: LMG + TF + FMJ, just blasting thgough walls and cars!

    I do not see the problem with TF. yeah they make a diamond around your body. So what they still got to aim at you. And there counters to these.

     

    5.  MAPS...  I feel like a fish in a bowl on "GRIND"...  I get mowed down immediately after re-spawning at least 4 times per game on "HYDRO"...

    You guys get these map ideas...that are full of potential...then you make them linear as hell!!! 

    i do not have a problem with Hydro.

     

     

    DISCLAIMER:  I bought Battlefield 3 finally one month ago for the first time.  In trial, I've come to remain loyal to the COD franchise for my FP shooters, they are my favorite.  This is no comparison to BF3, I do not see them as equal in any way shape or form, and have yet to play a game on either that resembled the other. This is coming from a guy in his 30's, and someone who's big on attention to detail.  If you guys wanna keep your older customers happy...ya gotta step up your game.  The kiddies don't see the errors like we do... and since mom and dad aren't purchasing our games for us, it would be nice to have this game perform to its highest potential, and make us feel good about where we spend our money....come PS4 this fall:--)

    Who says the kids didn't use there money they worked hard to earn like you. They see errors to such as lag and this stupid spawn ****.  I do understand this game is a M game. The kids and parents know that to. As long as these kids aren't sneaking on or cussing 24/7 cause its an M game whats the problem with them. Some of'em are really good at this game. Kids aren't blind or oblivios to all the errors in the game (except for the under 10 years old players, Why are u letting them play a M game WITH A MIC!!!) some parents aren't that smart...

  • Re: Top 5 problems with Black Ops 2... (MP)

    g3NxDD wrote:

     

     

     

    3.  STATS...  If I leave a game, the KDR counts against me if it's negative.......If I leave a game, and KDR is positive IT DOESN'T COUNT!!!.....FIX THIS!!  Same BS if a game leaves me... or lost connection... stats are only applied to my record when they're negative????

     

     

    I did not know that.

     

    That is awesome as it is another penalty against rage-quitters.

  • Re: Top 5 problems with Black Ops 2... (MP)
    Harney05

    I strongly agree with disabling target finders after level 11, just make sure everyone below it has it unlocked on the primary guns, it will make everyone's lives much better.

  • Re: Top 5 problems with Black Ops 2... (MP)
    ChestSplittah

    Lag

    Catering to nO_OBs

    SMG domination

    AR disrespect

    Theater still being in the game.

  • Re: Top 5 problems with Black Ops 2... (MP)
    JI94

    Completely agree the spawns are ridiculous and easily the no.1 problem.

  • Re: Top 5 problems with Black Ops 2... (MP)
    sennalike

    1 Matchmaking

    2 Matchmaking

    3 Matchmaking

    4 Matchmaking

    5 Matchmaking

     

    At first this may not appear very constructive. But the vast majority of issues I have with the game would disappear if matchmaking worked better. I live in England, not Spain, not France, not Eastern Europe, but England. I want to play against and with people from the UK. When I don't The match is usually riddled with lag spikes, players breakdancing across the screen, and I am unable to have any form of communication which in a team based game is a joke.

     

    Yes there are other issues such as stats, not clearing up leader boards, not banning cheaters quickly enough and so on. But for me these are all secondary to matchmaking.

  • Re: Top 5 problems with Black Ops 2... (MP)
    Jaggajatt187

    I totally agree with the head shots.

     

    They knew this game was going to be one giant head glitch so they lowered all the head shot multipliers on all weapons across the board. This made going for head shots completely useless unless you were going for camo's.

     

    They did patch some AR's to have a 1.2x multiplier but that still isn't all that great. I shouldn't have to shoot a head glitcher in the face 3x to kill him.

    • Re: Top 5 problems with Black Ops 2... (MP)
      g3NxDD

      Yeah...You're on point using the term "head glitcher"...

       

      Some of these Kill cams are proving to me that there are players out there who know about these glitches...and stick their head out there cause it's basically impossible to get a headshot with out ADS and lining up between the eyes.

  • Re: Top 5 problems with Black Ops 2... (MP)

    I agree with this fully

  • Re: Top 5 problems with Black Ops 2... (MP)
    ghamorra

    I think attachment have too much of an impact, by this I mean they almost remove valuable skills that seperate great players from poor players. I won't go into much more detail as I don't want to stir up conversation

     

    I also hate the maps, poor designs that are all the same with different paint jobs. They are dead simple to manipulate and too easy to get use to. I'm bored with them already

    • Re: Top 5 problems with Black Ops 2... (MP)
      g3NxDD

      It's sad....but true....I'm already gaming MW3 again...almost regularly.

      • Re: Top 5 problems with Black Ops 2... (MP)
        HaitianCreation

        I'd probably go back to MW3 also but I'm just more comfortable with BO2, as I only played MW3 for 2 months, but I can list things about it that were better than BO2.

         

        1. Specialist score streaks, great for average players like I was

        2. Scorestreaks for classes

        3. Snipers were actually balanced, I played for probably 2 months and never got no or quick scoped

        4. Shotguns weren't the red screen of death guns they are in this game

        5. If you shot somebody first they died

        6. Not as many head glitch spots

        7. Sniping windows usually had 1 or maybe 2 ways to get in, not like the spots in this game which are accesible from any angle.

        8. Connection, there were never deaths where on my screen I was shooting but in the killcam I wasn't

        9. Bullets didn't follow you around corners like in Wanted

        10. No effing constantly exploding cars to stop you from scorestreaks

         

        This is all i can think of at the moment but I'm sure theres more.

        • Re: Top 5 problems with Black Ops 2... (MP)
          g3NxDD

          BULLETTS!!!!....ahhh I almost forgot that...totally should have added that.  Yeah, I swear bullets can turn corners in this game. 

           

          Shotguns.... you're on point

           

          Lag... you're on point again...I can't count the amount of kills I've had where I see the guy.... fire at him... only to die.  When I go and watch the kill... I lost connection the second I started firing... or lag kicked in simultaneously, happens 20% of the games I play in.

          (2 out of every 10 games, aprox, are unplayable)

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          i have to agree with every single point of your post. and the shotguns arent just the red screen of death. THEY ARE THE ALMIGHT ZEUS

  • Re: Top 5 problems with Black Ops 2... (MP)
    mikeboy30

    Number 3 never happened to me

  • Re: Top 5 problems with Black Ops 2... (MP)
    g3NxDD

    I wanted to elaborate on what I meant with #5 and "linear" maps.

     

    Although my disclaimer says this thread is in no way a comparison to BF3...I must say that if the COD franchise wanted to adpot more vertical and open spaced maps...a la BF3...we would not complain.

     

    By the term "linear" what I meant was that...in a typical COD (MP) game...you can walk forward & backward...sideways either direction...and lay down or jump.  You can't move your character beyond the "baseline" of the game.  Take "GRIND" for example...this is perhaps the most "linear" map any COD designer has built.  In grind, you can't climb on top of 90% of the ramps...you can't hide in 99% of the bushes...and there are realistically 2 safe respawn points.  Devs are keeping us inside the scope of the ramps, which is lame, cause it basically opens up the probability of being in enemy sightlines 90% of the time upon respawn.

     

    So to conclude, it would have been nice to have more complex, and vertical maps... something the COD devs have failed at miserably...but then again, this isn't Battlefield3.

  • Re: Top 5 problems with Black Ops 2... (MP)
    sstang1

    I agree with most of what you have said.

     

    For me its -

     

    1. Maps - there just aren't enough good ones

    2. Gun Power- weapons seem weak and take too many bullets to put someone down in Core

    3. Spawns - if you Spawn take 2 steps and get shot in the back - somethings wrong.

    4. Target Finder - its total BS and never should have been put in the game.

    5. Graphics - The graphics are good but they went a little overboard on the "colorful" thing - Prefer the gritty dirty look of Modern Warfare.

  • Re: Top 5 problems with Black Ops 2... (MP)
    g3NxDD

    I kill an enemy... then I run FWD 5 steps... The game RE-SPAWNs that enemy I just killed directly behind me, so that in 2 steps or less I'm dead... DOWNHILL... Please fix this.

  • Re: Top 5 problems with Black Ops 2... (MP)
    RicinCig

    If you are looking for a fps that is better than cod I would look into counter-strike. Great game if you wanna play on computer. It blows cod away and it aint even close.

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    Totally agreed. and also. some weapons are still way too over powered. especially the burst fire ones.

  • Re: Top 5 problems with Black Ops 2... (MP)
    DrJohnAZoidberg

    1. True, spawn kills and deaths are stupid.

    2. No, this is a video game, not real life. If you don't like the rules, play something else.

    3. Simple solution, don't quit. As far as host dashboards, yes we should have dedicated servers, but they don't care.

    4. Not important. The rules are what they are. You have as much access to the weapons and attachments as everyone else.

    5. Seems to be the same point as number 1.

  • Re: Top 5 problems with Black Ops 2... (MP)
    hyper72

    How come no one talks about lag compensation anymore or has everyone just given up and gone to play something else. Don't you just love shooting someone that is not really where your seeing them....