13 Replies Latest reply: Oct 24, 2013 5:31 PM by Tintindye RSS

IW vs 3arc

Postmanliver

2009-moder warfare 2-So many cheaters.

2010-black ops-Cheaters less and with them you can fight through private server.

2011-modern warfare 3-can not play because of the incredible number of cheaters.

2012-black ops 2 -Cheaters very little, everything is fine.

2013-ghosts......What can we expect?)))

  • Re: IW vs 3arc
    ProperDedisNeeded

    Lets fix up that list a little shall we...

     

    CoD4 - Very few cheaters, easy to avoid.

    WaW - Very few cheaters, easy to avoid.

    MW2 - Overrun with obvious cheaters, nearly impossible to avoid.

    BO1 - Very few cheaters, easy to avoid.

    MW3 - Overrun with obvious cheaters, nearly impossible to avoid.

    BO2 - Overrun with hard to spot cheaters, nearly impossible to avoid.

     

    Now lets look at the fundamental difference...

     

    CoD4 - Rentable ranked dedicated servers with admin control and server browser.

    WaW - Rentable ranked dedicated servers with admin control and server browser.

    MW2 - P2P matchmaking with no admins and no choice of what game you're placed in.

    BO1 - Rentable ranked dedicated servers with admin control and server  browser.

    MW3 - P2P matchmaking with no admins and no choice of what game you're placed in.

    BO2 - Dedi matchmaking with no admins and no choice of what game you're placed in.

     

     

    Since Ghosts will use matchmaking with no admins and no ability for players to choose what game they join... It's quite clear to see that it will be another hacker infested waste of money.

    • Re: IW vs 3arc
      Th3_St4lk3r

      BO2 - Overrun with hard to spot cheaters

      I still think at least 95% of those are just a result of bad lag compensation, terrible servers and of course imagination.

      • Re: IW vs 3arc
        Postmanliver

        Yes, I'm sure that cheaters will be even greater than in mw3. 3arс work much better and more honest.

      • Re: IW vs 3arc
        ProperDedisNeeded

        Th3_St4lk3r wrote:

         

        BO2 - Overrun with hard to spot cheaters

        I still think at least 95% of those are just a result of bad lag compensation, terrible servers and of course imagination.

         

        More like 95% of people have no clue what to look for, so they chalk every potential hacker up to lag compensation or imagination... And since there are no stupidly obvious aimbots or wallhacks like MW2/3, it's easy to think the game is clean.

         

        For the record, the many cheaters I've seen in BO2 cannot be explained away by lag comp, or luck, or bad servers, or skill, or even imagination... 

        • Re: IW vs 3arc
          Th3_St4lk3r

          I know this has been discussed more than enough, and I shouldn't have brought it up again, but all that talk about cheaters in BO2 is a massive exaggeration. I can't deny that there are some cheaters with hard to spot, aimbots, but I have played almost 30h hours and have seen maybe a handful of suspicious guys. And I just don't believe you have proof for all/most of your so-called hackers. I know what to look for to spot a cheater, but I only take a closer look if they give me a reason. Of course I could have missed some of them though. (I don't watch killcams.) But this also means none of the hackers is "good" enough to actually ruin the game for me. I still win most of my matches, and even if half of the good oponents is actually cheating, it doesn't even come close to cheating in Modern Warfare 1, 2 and 3.

           

          And it's hard to believe all the "BO2 cheater horror stories" if in EVERY match at least 3 players randomly call other players (mostly me and my friends - honest gamers) cheaters.

           

          So if there are so many cheaters in BO2, where have they been hiding? Are they non-existent on European servers for some reason?

    • Re: IW vs 3arc
      afflictedmed

      At least there is potential for rentable-ranked servers with a server browser post launch according to Mark Rubin.  I have long been in the camp that ranked, admined servers are the best defense against cheaters.  And as someone who has terrible lag comp issues, servers are the way to go.

    • Re: IW vs 3arc
      dmcginnis

      At least 3ARC banned people, the rest was the lag compensation crap. 3ARC makes a better game by far, they should stick to their own inventions and stop adapting crap from IW IMO.

  • Re: IW vs 3arc
    A Canadian

    BO2 has been a very clean, cheat-free game for me. Have seen a few aimbots early on but compared to previous CoD's this has been the cleanest. The only problem I have are with players using rapid-fire scripts either assigned to their mouse buttons or keyboard through the macro software for their peripherals. Most of these player run around with the pistol and take advantage of the OP'ness of it when using a script. I report those players but I doubt much is done about them.

     

    Someone in this thread mentioned that MW1 was hack free? Hardly. I saw a lot of cheaters playing that game when it was a current game. I don't play it now, but a well admined server will spot and ban cheaters pretty fast.

     

    I imagine Ghosts will use something similar to what BO2 did, a report and check system for hackers, but as usual, IW doesn't care about PC players and haven't told us much.

    • Re: IW vs 3arc
      Th3_St4lk3r

      While it is of course possible to use macro software, I know some people who have a really fast trigger finger, and are really good/fast with semi auto guns. But yes, you're right it is a problem, and it's most likely one of the reasons why they banned the FAL from Leauge.

  • Re: IW vs 3arc
    TheNICEperson

    Am i the only person who doest think there are that many hackers in this game....

    I have 250 hours and i have seen like 2-3 hackers.

    Stop being so butthurst

  • Re: IW vs 3arc
    TheNICEperson

    I remember more people cheated in BO1 even i remember ane person got into our clan server and the admin said that he coudnt kick him