18 Replies Latest reply: Oct 28, 2011 4:25 PM by poison_pawn RSS

PC Community Unite!

[EW]TheO'ReilyFactor

<div mcetmp="1"><div mcetmp="1">THIS IS THE THIRD TIME I'VE POSTED THIS ON THIS CRAPPY FORUM!</div></div><div mcetmp="1"><div mcetmp="1">
Stand united guys! We need to work together to show the devs what we want. If our opinions are unheard on this site, then lets let the numbers do  the talking! We need to refuse to play on IWNet (unless you prefer it that is, then voice your opinoin that way) We need to keep voicing our opinoins on this forum. Continue checking it even after the game comes out. Keep spamming fourzerotwo about adding ranked dedicated even after the game comes out! All of us!!! We need to work together on this because if we give the effort, we will be noticed.<div mcetmp="1"><div mcetmp="1">
This is what we can do. Please post your steamIDs, your server name, the ruleset, and your clan's website. I'll add IPs after launch. I'll keep this post updated after launch so people can see servers hosted by the community and can help us populate them likewise. Heres mine for example<div mcetmp="1"><div mcetmp="1"> </div></div><div mcetmp="1"><div mcetmp="1"> </div></div><div mcetmp="1"><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);" mcestyle="color: #ff0000;"> torf.0-</span></span></div><div mcetmp="1"><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);" mcestyle="color: #ff0000;">NA S&amp;D Server</span>

 

<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);" mcestyle="color: #ff0000;">name "[EW]S&amp;amp;D Promod Rules"</span></span></p></div><div mcetmp="1">

 

<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);" mcestyle="color: #ff0000;">rules "Standard Promod SD rules"</span>

 

<div mcetmp="1"><div mcetmp="1"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);" mcestyle="color: #0000ff;"> redskullss-</span>

 

<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);" mcestyle="color: #0000ff;">UK S&amp;D Server</span>

 

<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255);" mcestyle="color: #0000ff;">rules Barebones, No Hopping</span>

 

<div mcetmp="1"><div mcetmp="1">dante2010-</span></div><div mcetmp="1">UK TDM

 

stock rules

 

<div mcetmp="1"><div mcetmp="1">UK DOM</span></div><div mcetmp="1">stock rules

 

<div mcetmp="1"><div mcetmp="1"><span style="color: rgb(255, 255, 0); font-size: 12pt;" mcestyle="color: #ffff00; font-size: 12pt;">paulkersey-</span></div></div><div mcetmp="1"><span style="color: rgb(255, 255, 0); font-size: 12pt;" mcestyle="color: #ffff00; font-size: 12pt;">NA TDM</span>

 

<span style="color: rgb(255, 255, 0); font-size: 12pt;" mcestyle="color: #ffff00; font-size: 12pt;">possibly no GL*

 

[OIL] CTF NA Atlanta

[http://oilclan.org | http://oilclan.org/]

 

Default Settings

Capture the Flag

No racist remarks

No trolls

 

<div mcetmp="1"><div mcetmp="1">We need to work together guys. Keep voicing your opinions here. Join each others communities. Add each other on Xfire/Steam. Again, Refuse to play on IWNet, If your servers empty or if you don't have one, add one of us on steam and help us. If your server is empty or even full. consider helping someone else populate theres. Just a little work and soon pubs and randies will come. They'll learn how to favorite. They'll favor their ping over levels. We can knock out IWNet. We can and will when with some teamwork and a hard effort! Lets do it guys! Lets show 'em what we want!!!</div></div><div mcetmp="1"> </div>

  • Re: PC Community Unite!
    redskullss

    I will be happily playing on a well administered unranked UK S&D server with all the noob weapons tuned off including all the fire and forget kill streaks that need zero skill to use, there will be no one jumping around bunny hopping as if it was Quake III and those who break the rules shall be kicked

     

    Does that count?

  • Re: PC Community Unite!

    It's important to remember that we also need servers which don't restrict any weapon/perk/attachment. One of the biggest complaints against dedicated servers is that they are "modded" (which is a new definition of the word, and simply means has custom settings).

     

    As such, I will be running 2 dedicated servers with no weapon/perk/attachment restricted. 1 will be for TDM; the other for DOM. I'm not sure yet of the names. There will be no rules other than respect other players, and of course, don't cheat.

     

    Also, I would like twitter names please. Mine is: @tally_modder. Follow me, and I'll return the favour and follow you right back.

    • Re: PC Community Unite!
      [pde]paulkersey

      If these servers are comfortable and playable (I mean with things like create-a-class, etc), we will have a default server for the most part. We've always had a default server with the grenade launcher being the only thing restricted. I wouldn't want to restrict the GL this time, but I would have to see how it works in the server.

    • Re: PC Community Unite!
      D0T-C0M

      dante2010 your exactly right.  The biggest turn off for me is I hate custom rules.  Certainly default servers are important but unfortunately your a minority in understanding this.   I prefer hardcore TDM and they are very rare those with no custom rules.   This is one of the main reason why I am in total agreement that they keep the matchmaking lobby system as an option.

      • Re: PC Community Unite!

        Isn't ranked dedicated servers all about standard rules ?

         

        As far as I know you check servers and players on having an untouched standard files -file.

         

        And that is all that needs to be done.

         

         

        Isn't it a fact that corrupting a P2P server can make players getting unlocked without wanting this ?

         

         

        So what is exactly the difference between a P2P client server and a MW3 ranked server ?

         

        Well.... the list of P2P servers you have to check is as long as all players present.

         

        And the ranked servers list will be no more than... 2500 servers ???

         

         

        Just a thought......  

        • Re: PC Community Unite!

          Ranked dedicated servers can have rules enforced but this tool wants to hide behind the reasoning "admins ban me unofficially." He must be a moron because I can find dozens of hardcore TDM servers with "anything goes" ruleset.

           

          They could have used a voluntary flag system that states that a server is anything goes to make the system idiot proof. That way when this moron wants to play he can filter the servers for those flags only since he's apparently too stupid to read and can't find the dozens of servers I can see on a daily basis.

           

          He also wants to crown P2P as if it's going to solve his issue. Then someone comes along with an MW3 tool that lets you kick whoever you want, in effect turning each match into a administrated match. It's the same thing as dedicated servers with unofficial rules only you have all of the connection issues associated with P2P. Epic fail. Just give it a week and you'll see MW3 tool with client command overflow kick on it.That'll make this baby cry uncle.

          • Re: PC Community Unite!

            a. We don't know yet what kind of "dedicated' servers we get. Can be that the IW/SH dedicated servers just mean a server on client's PC with some options to choose from and players can now choose (fav) who to join and so no more forced matchmaking.

             

            b. Kicked by a admin or a losing P2P client shutting of his PC has the same outcome.

             

            c. An old-school ranked dedicated server can have best of both worlds.

             

            You can have your strict rule-set and let admins kick hackers only.

             

            Simple backend solution will do.  A player gets time/perma banned after been kicked from... 5 different servers ?

             

            Servers with to much kicking while those players never been kicked from other servers are banned from being ranked because of excessive kicking.

             

            I don't see the problem.

            • Re: PC Community Unite!
              D0T-C0M

              They've said that dedicated servers can be run regardless of its video card capabilities which would suggest that it could be hosted remotely as opposed from your PC.

               

              A strict ruleset will not work because admins believe they paid for the server they have a right to do what they please.  Depending what side of the fence your on you'll agree or disagree but either way I do know that some admins take it upon themselves to enforce their own custom rules.  So even if you say in a ranked server they should only go by a set of strict rules, this cannot be policed.  The only solution is to have ranked dedicated servers that are run by IW or by their 3rd party administrators that adhere to the ruleset.  This is very costly and I doubt will ever see the light of day.   This is why IMO IW has decided to go with the present matchmaking system. 

              • Re: PC Community Unite!

                I stopped reading at which would suggest ...

                 

                Clear pre-launch information. 

                 

                When not given, prepare for failure.

                 

                (Based on past experiences)

              • Re: PC Community Unite!
                poison_pawn

                D0T-C0M wrote:

                 

                They've said that dedicated servers can be run regardless of its video card capabilities which would suggest that it could be hosted remotely as opposed from your PC.

                 

                A strict ruleset will not work because admins believe they paid for the server they have a right to do what they please.  Depending what side of the fence your on you'll agree or disagree but either way I do know that some admins take it upon themselves to enforce their own custom rules.  So even if you say in a ranked server they should only go by a set of strict rules, this cannot be policed.  The only solution is to have ranked dedicated servers that are run by IW or by their 3rd party administrators that adhere to the ruleset.  This is very costly and I doubt will ever see the light of day.   This is why IMO IW has decided to go with the present matchmaking system.

                We don't "believe we paid for it; we do pay for it!

                And enforcing rules on unranked servers IS our right. But to say that we can't be trusted to follow the rules of a ranked server is a little broad wouldn't you say?

                I had no problem running a ranked server in cod4 as long as they gave us the choice; and honestly believe anyone hacking anything, especially and entire server should be banned for life; along with anyone who participated.

                You have been on my server; on many occasions’ unless there's another dot.com running around? but you never noticed me be cause I was playing my game (not setting in spec just waiting to drop the ban hammer; as you would like people to believe) but if I weren't there ensuring some form of civility; your stay might have been less enjoyable.

                We (admins) are not the bad guys; if anything we're the cops (unwillingly I might add).

                Our only concern is to keep honest people honest (especially in OUR servers; that WE pay for)

                The rules on a given server are there to keep order, just like the laws in society; else there would be anarchy.

                As well as to set an even playing field; just like any board or field game.

                If we started playing poker; before the game started we would agree on certain rules (dealers choice for instance) if you don’t like the dealers choice, you either fold, or cash in. no one is trying to twist your arm; you are a guest, and you’re welcome stay and play by the rules

    • Re: PC Community Unite!
      {bhc}max|co

      We @ {BHC}Rangers,  Black Hawk Clan Rangers, www.bhc-rangers.com

       

      Will be running a dedicated server on initially tdm/kill confirmed, with ALL weapons/ perks/ attatchments  UNLOCKED.. just pick what u need , before 20 minute map starts ,  and join the fun xD.

      Only rules we have , No Cheating, No Abusive Behaviour , offenders get kicked / banned.

       

      happy gaming

      {BHC}Max @ www.bhc-rangers.com

       

      ***This is ASSUMING mw3 dedi servers can be hosted by a GSP****

      And MY opinion is that mw3 dedi servers will be hosted by clients on THIER OWN pc's..

  • PC Community Unite!

    gotta tell if the servers are US or EU or somewhere else

  • Re: PC Community Unite!
    [EW]TheO'ReilyFactor

    THIS IS NOT AN IWNET VS DEDICATED SERVERS THREAD. FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES IN THIS THREAD, IWNET IS AN ABOMINATION AND SHOULD NEVER EXISTED. Anyone who thinks that IWNet is a catch all solution and better than dedicated servers is either to lazy to find a server and add it to his favorites or to stupid to host his own.

     

    Anyways, I just updated the thread with redskulls, tally, and kerseys servers. If you have suggestions on the format please let me know and i'll fix it! thanks guys

    • Re: PC Community Unite!
      D0T-C0M

      As the subject says,  I am part of the PC community uniting against those in the PC community that want to abolish the MW3 matchmaking system.   I support the idea of having both the lobby system and dedicated server system and I am completely against those that believe that one system should be abolished over the other.  I will not get into a debate over which is better because its all about personal preference and opinion.   IW would be wise to try to accomadate both sides to the best of their ability.

  • Re: PC Community Unite!

    I suggest we all go back to CoD4 and setting up more ranked servers, cuz now its hard to find a "ranked" server in S&D with 24/32 players.

    Dont get me wrong, i love playing promods or some other good "unranked" servers, but i like to switch between them.

    MW3 is for next generation PC gamers and will never come close to CoD4, but CoD4 can

  • Re: PC Community Unite!
    poison_pawn
    Photobucket

    DoM HC CTF

     

    SERVER RULES

     

     

     

    1. No cheating, hacking or map glitching.
    i.e., wall, aimbot, radar or no recoil hacks. THIS IS AN INSTANT BAN.
    Likewise, if you suspect someone cheating,
    get ahold of an admin as soon as possible via game chat, TeamSpeak or steam.

    2. Respect all players at all times.
    Do not harass other players; Play fair, Play with sportsmanship.
    This rule applies to TeamSpeak as well; do not harass other players over voice chat.

    3. No racial, sexual or otherwise derogatory statements toward other players.
    Trash talking in jest is part of any game, and is allowed; however,
    racial, sexual or otherwise derogatory statements are not; and may lead to a permanent ban.

    4. No racist or otherwise offensive player names.
    Keep it clean. If an admin asks you to change your name, please do so at once.

    5. Do not camp behind the enemy flag; ever!
    If you are not running the flag, escorting the flag runner, or looking for your flag,
    you do not belong back there.
    (Waiting for the flag is an invalid excuse; you should be escorting the flag runner)

    6. If you are going to be AFK, please go into spec. mode or leave.
    Things happen, but try to keep it to a minimum.
    If you are AFK for long enough you will get kicked.

    7. Keep an eye on the teams. If the teams are unbalanced, switch teams to even them out.
    Also, no team stacking; This is to keep game play as fair as possible;
    do not clan stack, unless invited to.

    8. No spamming voice/text chat this is annoying, don't do it.
    It distracts other players, even your teammates.
    This also applies to giving your teammates position out over TeamSpeak;
    under no circumstances are you to do this.

    9. No recruiting, spamming ip's or advertising on our server(s).
    there are plenty of outside message board forums out there to recruit on.

    10. If you accidentally TK some one TYPE sry (the dead can't HEAR the living)
    if you intentionally TK some one (for any reason) you will be kicked

    11. No whining. This especially applies to cheating accusations.
    Nine times out of ten a cheater can be obviously spotted.
    If you suspect someone is cheating, get a hold of an admin via in game, TeamSpeak or steam.
    Don't whine, period.

    The server admins reserve the right to kick and/or ban any player without prior notice.

    WE KICK PLAYERS TO MAKE ROOM FOR DoM MEMBERS. Check back later.

    The DoM Team