38 Replies Latest reply: Jan 30, 2012 10:15 AM by deadestllama RSS

OP SHOTGUNS!!

thetizzleguy

Thanks to all of you ******* little kids that cept complaining about the shotguns needing a boost... you have now just turned this game into MW2...

WTF does this RB guy think he is doing? stop listening to all theses ******* moaning little kids and start listening to everyone else for once in your sad little life..

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    JEadz

    what shotgun are you specifically talking about?

     

    I use the Model 1887 lvl 31 with dmg and i noticed NO difference last night.

     

    the Spaz ext mage glitch is removed so the spaz is now worse.

     

    the Stryker has been slightly nerfed.

     

    what game are you playing? I want in

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    obzi

    Looks like the little kiddies have got bored with the FMGs and moved over to the shotties especially the Striker, they're everywhere.

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    whiteknight1902

    How has buffing the shotguns made this like mw2?

     

    Shotguns are a PRIMARY WEAPON not a secondary so they needed a buff.

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    indy56

    stryker,personally think that is way over the top ,ok i was playing domination on Dome, standing just a few steps down in the bunker looking up at the B flag, then getting shot with somebody using the stryker from inside the building (B) at the window, thought these kind of weapons where for more up close and personal. no wonder most players are using this Shotgun.

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      MUPHinATHONG

      Yes, pellets from a striker will reach that far, (or pretty much any shotgun for that matter) but I can guarantee that:

      1. He had range

      2. He didn't kill you in 1 shot

      3. It would've taken 4-5 shots to kill you

       

      So if you are seriously complaining about a shotgun getting multiple hitmarkers from 60 feet away, find another game. I am happy about the new patch.

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        indy56

        Do you see the word complain amongst all those words, nope, it was an observation, completed this game a while back so at the end of the day i am not to fussed about players rushing around with akimbos and shotguns,if you cannot beat them  i usually join them for some payback,

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        thetizzleguy

        WTF? im on about a ******* SPAZ you moron! read befor you post kid...

        1.  he did not have range( i asked him)

        2. it was 1 shot kill(how would you know it wasnt because you wasnt there)

        3 .i dont care what you think( it was a rage thread)

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          50calmastr

          There's this thing called exaggerating, anyone can do it nub

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          Brick2urFace

          Okay if he didn't have range then the spas only goes 58 ft.  And even with damage + steady aim it still is a 2 shot kill at max range.  So if you got one shotted you were probly about 45-50 ft away if the dude put out a perfect shot and got a lucky grouping.  The mw2 spas with steaady aim got 1hks from about 55-60 ft.  so consider yourself lucky they didn't buff the shotguns more.  I understand your rage but it is not easy to get range kills with the pumps so he just got a lucky shot on you, it won't happen often so I wouldn't worry to much about it.

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    9blackguys

    I don't think the shotguns, at very least not the AA12 and pump actions, are overpowered. They are  primary weapons afterall, why should they be weak? Is that fair to those who prefer to be "up close and personal"?

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    ttiKmAI

    everyone does realize that for a modern shotgun the average effective range is actually between 40 and 50 yards depending on your shell and jumps up dramatically if you have a slug instead of shot right...  basicallly this means that most shotguns in this game are essentially underpowered by real life standards.... and they would be severely underpowered if you had the option to use a slug instead of shot....

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      9blackguys

      Exactly, shotguns are basically point blank range weapons. Always have been in most video games, especially call of duty. I expect them to stay that way, but it takes stradegy to make it work and close the distance safely and effectively to get the kill. Its not as easy as you think.

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        JEadz

        and even then you get point blank hit markers

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          9blackguys

          I know its a pain in the ass, I use the AA-12 and you only get 24 shots. Averaging around 3-4 hits to kill (depending on range/latency) that gives you 6-8 kills per life, assuming you don't miss and you don't die before running out of ammo.

           

          That means you almost have to use scavenger if you plan on using it full time, either as a starting perk or somewhere in your specialist line-up. Then you add on the ridiculous kick, short range, and small mag capacity/starting ammo and you get a very inferior weapon, even among the other shotguns.

           

          The Stryker and USAS with damage trump the AA-12 in most circumstances. 

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            Play a match with me and ill show u how to destroy with the AA-12. If anything the AA12 is a awesome counter to striker users beacuse of it's high rate of fire.

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              9blackguys

              I agree around corners it beats the Stryker but from a distance, across rooms and hallways, I've had trouble killing the Stryker-wielder everytime. I'd love to play with you though, my gamertag is STATUS TANK, feel free to add me, I play with my team of friends and family and if you are as good as you imply, we'd love to have you

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    50calmastr

    LOl, not even 24 hours and some nub is complaining about the patch

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    Sigh. Go back to your 3HK AR's with no weaknesses whatsoever and let us have fun with guns that basically demands a decent strategy to use. I'm not going to quit using fun weapons because your vagina hurts everytime you go 6-20

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    LMAO.  This thread is honestly making me laugh.  EVERY gun is supposed to be a viable choice in a game.  That is what IW did. 

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    The shotguns didn't even get that much of a boost, and the spam-gun striker has been put in its rightful place.

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    anoreo

    This thread is pathetic and makes me want to puke. Whining about some little shotgun, because they were originally UP, yet no word on FMG9 akimbos, Type 95 or what else? Goes to show you how much unjust discrimination shotgun users have to go through.

  • Re: OP SHOTGUNS!!

    thetizzleguy wrote:

     

    Thanks to all of you ******* little kids that cept complaining about the shotguns needing a boost... you have now just turned this game into MW2...

    WTF does this RB guy think he is doing? stop listening to all theses ******* moaning little kids and start listening to everyone else for once in your sad little life..

     

    Wiggy will take one for the team and say this...

     

    You can call Wiggy all the names you like, they can keep the akimbo FMG's right where they are as far as Wiggy is concerned, because those kids rage when Wiggy blasts them one time with his "OP" SPAS12 now.

     

    Wiggy is happy with the shotguns now, that's all Wiggy cared about.

     

    BTW, for those who are wondering, "Shotgun Wiggy" episodes will be fourthcoming, oh yes, they will be plentiful now. Careful kids what you wish for, sometimes you just might get it.

     

    Thank you Robert Trolling!

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    KTPhoenix

    ok, this is what i dont understand. why are more and more people complaining about the shotguns? in MW2 people complained cuz they were secondaries and didnt want to be killed by a secondary weapon and now that in MW3 they are primaries, people are STILL complaining about them? WTH?

     

    stop complaining about the shotguns, they are supposed to be powerful in CQC to begin with and you also have to realize that most of these maps are built for CQC so most people will run a shotgun. as for the 100 feet away thing, please for the love of god STOP EXAGGERATING! no wonder sh*t in this game gets majorly f**ked with. people keep exaggerating everything they dont like to make it sound like its some game breaking problem that needs to be fixed.

     

    you have to stop exaggerating how far away something shoots when you dont think the weapon shoots farther than what you either think it shoot or how far you think it should shoot.

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    mjw3786

    i used the USAS a bit over the weekend and found it to be a great primary for Piazza. you need to be accurate with your shots tho or it's hitmarkers all day

     

    the spas always had great range and should kill from distance with grip and ADS on target

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      yup... USAS is even better than it was before (and it was pretty good before)

       

      Been toying with the KSG now, and it's quirky sometimes, but I think it's a good alternative to the SPAS.

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    It just goes to show that you can never please everyone.  Personally I'm pretty happy with the patch.  I prefer getting killed by a wider variety of shotguns as opposed to just seeing the striker in my kill cam.  Also, how are they so overpowered?  They are a primary weapon designed to dominate in CQC.  What set up do you use?  If you want to win in close quarters then switch up your set up.

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    v0_FATALITY_0v

    Only reason why shotguns are such a viable option in this game is cause although not all the maps are small, most of them play small due to the spawns. So except for a few maps your getting a lot of CQC. I'm glad they did the patch. Been using the aa-12 lately and it's not as big of a pain in the ass to level up as it was before. Also love that the striker isn't the spamming noob cannon it was.

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      Learn to play against them OR play with them...............   I didn't even use the striker until this last prestige and I had to see what all the fuss was about. Its a good CLOSE RANGE weapon and thats it, even with range. Range + Grip + Steady Aim = medium range kills with 2-3 shots BUT YOU HAVE TO BE ACCURATE. Checking my K/D ratios with various guns I find the Striker to be a medium weapon for me with a 1.60 , my best KD weapon is PP90M1 with a 1.62 and the Worst an ACR with 1.55kd.

       

      And for those that are complaining about "1 shot Kill from 60ft away" I don't remember every dropping anyone that far away with 1 shot from a striker, Hell I rarely get 1 shot kills up close. I had a bunch of kids whining the other day about me killing them with One shot kills ON THE KILL CAM but on my screen I was on my 3rd or 4th shot to drop them as the first few shots NEVER register hit markers from any weapon with this crappy lag comp.

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        Helltoy

        im glad they patched the shotguns... they are not OP, they are just what they shuld have been since day 1. reliable close quarters weapons. it was frustrating to get hit marker after hitmarker with the usas up close. Now most of the time it is an one hit kill weapon inside of its efective range.

         

        im glad i can play shotguns again.

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    The spas/models actually have some use now. I still dont even want to try the KSG. Glad they buffed the pump action shotguns, but the striker needs a ROF reduction or something. You would still have to be crazy to use any of the other shotguns over a striker.