21 Replies Latest reply: May 11, 2012 10:33 AM by dougiefaedos RSS

Rushing Tactics | P90 vs MP7 | Specialist vs Support | Which is better for XP Leveling? | Discuss

scratch_1_more

Right now I'm having fun utilizing both, they both yeild great xp while rushing. What's your personal favorite setup for xp? Peace

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtJRI8s0-3Q

 

  • Re: Rushing Tactics | P90 vs MP7 | Specialist vs Support | Which is better for XP Leveling? | Discuss

    Derp de derp, your video makes it pretty clear that akimbo fmg's are the best to rush with -__- (I think I speak for the majority of the community when I say NO ONE wants to see these things in a montage, no offense but most people get annoyed enough by the constant spam of these guns in-game)

     

    Back on topic, I prefer P90 over the MP7 anyday. I can get better range and accuracy with the P90/range/RDS plus bigger mags always come in handy.

     

    As for my choice of strike package, I use Specialist on all of my classes, I try to stay alive for as long as possible and Specialist helps me do this. If you can earn the 'all streaks' bonus often enough I believe you can earn more XP using Specialist than using support. If using hardline you can get your first perk bonus after only 1 kill, which means get 150 kills and you get 10 000 XP, swap your 1st perk out, rinse and repeat. You can earn a ton of XP doing this making for a rather quick prestige. Besides who can go back to any other strike package setup after experiencing the almighty feeling of having every perk in the game, you become......Unstoppable.

    • Re: Rushing Tactics | P90 vs MP7 | Specialist vs Support | Which is better for XP Leveling? | Discuss

      I noticed the cross hairs for your akimbo death machines were very small. This footage was apparently taken prior to the "nerfs". Ooooh excuse me I got a little sick just now...

    • Re: Rushing Tactics | P90 vs MP7 | Specialist vs Support | Which is better for XP Leveling? | Discuss
      scratch_1_more

      [fnx]sworndeath wrote:

       

      Derp de derp, your video makes it pretty clear that akimbo fmg's are the best to rush with -__- (I think I speak for the majority of the community when I say NO ONE wants to see these things in a montage, no offense but most people get annoyed enough by the constant spam of these guns in-game)

       

      Back on topic, I prefer P90 over the MP7 anyday. I can get better range and accuracy with the P90/range/RDS plus bigger mags always come in handy.

       

      As for my choice of strike package, I use Specialist on all of my classes, I try to stay alive for as long as possible and Specialist helps me do this. If you can earn the 'all streaks' bonus often enough I believe you can earn more XP using Specialist than using support. If using hardline you can get your first perk bonus after only 1 kill, which means get 150 kills and you get 10 000 XP, swap your 1st perk out, rinse and repeat. You can earn a ton of XP doing this making for a rather quick prestige. Besides who can go back to any other strike package setup after experiencing the almighty feeling of having every perk in the game, you become......Unstoppable.

       

      In my opinion, the Striker is much easier for pure rushing at the moment. As far as the Machine Pistols go, anything I can do with the FMG's I can do with the Skorpions and MP9s. There's literally no difference other than clip size, they are all equally effective. People just have the fmg's first so that gets used a lot more. Keep one thing in mind, in this game connection, hit detection, and other things vary all the time. People will use whatever they have to use to do well/get best results. If it means taking advantage of a fast firing rate akimbo machine pistol and sacrificing range, so be it. If it means slapping extended mags with damage on a Striker, so be it. In the end all the guns are available to everybody, feel something is overpowered? Just use it, or don't. It's that simple.

       

      As for the P90 vs MP7 they both work great(As you can see in the video derp), most would argue the MP7 as the best SMG in the game and I couldn't fault them (followed by the PP90m1). The MP7 deals out great damage and has virtually no recoil. As for the P90 I enjoy using it with stalker and range, it's all preference though.

  • Re: Rushing Tactics | P90 vs MP7 | Specialist vs Support | Which is better for XP Leveling? | Discuss
    RAMBONER

    Man what really kills me is the pp90 trumps em both which sucks.  I used I think my 3rd prest token on the mp7 I loved it so much and once I hit 10 and went back to using the other guns I hadnt used in awhile I realized how much better the pp90 was then all of the rest.

     

    The P90 is bad ass with rapid fire on as it already has ext. mags.  I am not that good and have had quite a few times where I get triple or even quad feeds with this gun where I would have had to re-load with any of the other subs and would have only got a couple of them.  The mag size on the thing is bad ass and with RF it is a hip firing cqc beast.  The mp7 is hands down the best at longer shots as its recoil is almost non existant.

     

    I honestly can use any of the 3 equally and think the gun balance in this game is overpowered!!!!!!!  Yup I said that and meant it.

     

    As far as leveling there is no question the fastest way is specialist with hardline if perk 2.  You get double xp for every first kill, cap, air shoot down etc. and double xp every other kill after that.  Not t mention the 10k bonuses for hitting 150, 300, 500 with each perk.  Plus the double xp while on specialist bonus.  If you are really really good at this game and can hit high assault streaks mult times a game you prob can level just as fast using assault but for normal people specialist is the way to level up......

    • Re: Rushing Tactics | P90 vs MP7 | Specialist vs Support | Which is better for XP Leveling? | Discuss

      I love the P90 > MP7. The P90 has more damage, large magazines and with rapid fire and range it is a beast at any range.

       

      As for which package to lvl fast it is definitely the specialist package, but lately I been playing drop zone where packages are disabled and find that lvling is just as fast if not faster

      • Re: Rushing Tactics | P90 vs MP7 | Specialist vs Support | Which is better for XP Leveling? | Discuss
        scratch_1_more

        HatedEnemy wrote:

         

        I love the P90 > MP7. The P90 has more damage, large magazines and with rapid fire and range it is a beast at any range.

         

        As for which package to lvl fast it is definitely the specialist package, but lately I been playing drop zone where packages are disabled and find that lvling is just as fast if not faster

         

        I enjoy using the P90 with rapid fire and silencer, or rapid and extended just for the extra ammo incase a multi feed situation arises you're ready to go. Although as you mentioned it has great stock ammo clip capacity which allows you to use another attachment if desired. Been running it with Range, Rapid or Silencer, and stalker since day 1 and it works great, has great range and damage.

    • Re: Rushing Tactics | P90 vs MP7 | Specialist vs Support | Which is better for XP Leveling? | Discuss
      scratch_1_more

      RAMBONER wrote:

       

      Man what really kills me is the pp90 trumps em both which sucks.  I used I think my 3rd prest token on the mp7 I loved it so much and once I hit 10 and went back to using the other guns I hadnt used in awhile I realized how much better the pp90 was then all of the rest.

       

      The P90 is bad ass with rapid fire on as it already has ext. mags.  I am not that good and have had quite a few times where I get triple or even quad feeds with this gun where I would have had to re-load with any of the other subs and would have only got a couple of them.  The mag size on the thing is bad ass and with RF it is a hip firing cqc beast.  The mp7 is hands down the best at longer shots as its recoil is almost non existant.

       

      I honestly can use any of the 3 equally and think the gun balance in this game is overpowered!!!!!!!  Yup I said that and meant it.

       

      As far as leveling there is no question the fastest way is specialist with hardline if perk 2.  You get double xp for every first kill, cap, air shoot down etc. and double xp every other kill after that.  Not t mention the 10k bonuses for hitting 150, 300, 500 with each perk.  Plus the double xp while on specialist bonus.  If you are really really good at this game and can hit high assault streaks mult times a game you prob can level just as fast using assault but for normal people specialist is the way to level up......

       

      Yeah the PP90 feels like it has more stopping power, drops guys quicker with a little more recoil and muzzle flash than the MP7.

  • Re: Rushing Tactics | P90 vs MP7 | Specialist vs Support | Which is better for XP Leveling? | Discuss

    I humbly have to disagree about the fmg's. They are not spammed because they are unlocked first, they are spammed because they are the most effective. Not only low level players are using these but at least 80% of the community are making use of these as secondaries and there are good reasons for this. They have a faster reload than any other MP akimbo and increased stopping power, basically they kill a lot quicker than the rest. They also have better range than any other MP. Basically the only negative factor on the fmg's is the recoil. They make other MP's look like a joke. To say 'I can get the same job done with any other akimbo MP' is like saying 'I can get the same job done using the KSG as opposed to using the striker'. We all know this is not true and exactly the same applies to the other MP's. But hey to each their own opinion I guess. My arguments proof lies in the pudding though. The next time you go online, count how many times you get killed by akimbo fmg's as opposed to any other MP, regardless of player level. All the reasons just mentioned explain this perfectly.

    • Re: Rushing Tactics | P90 vs MP7 | Specialist vs Support | Which is better for XP Leveling? | Discuss
      whytie84

      I despise the akimbo set up, they should remove it tbh. I have went through 6 prestiges without touching akimbo machine pistols. Having gotten so sick of standing no chance at close quarters, I decided this prestige (7) to se the fmg akimbo's. They are brilliant, they kill so damn fast, good mag size and fast reload time. Everytime I get a kill with them I just laugh as its too funny knowing the only reason ur p1ss1ng all over the enemy is cause of those guns.

       

      My k/d was 2.51 st beginning of the prestige, it's crept up to 2.53 and I don't think it's a coincidence. The akimbo fmgs turn a situation were you would normally be dead to the victor.

       

      Tre fact of the matter is any noob can use them relatively well, the main issue lies where a decent / good player gets their hands on them they are near impossible to beat at close quarters.

       

      Back to topic, I prefer mp7 over p90, simply cause its much more accurate for me personally. I find I'm much more able to use the mp7 like an AR while all other subs feel wild when ADSing and shooting at range.

       

      I'm enjoying specialist and it's all I'm using this prestige. Seem to be ranking up real fast due to the relatively easy challenges that come with it.

       

      I'm a 20-21 hour prestiger on average I think. Using specialist I think is speeding that process but not by a huge margin.

  • Re: Rushing Tactics | P90 vs MP7 | Specialist vs Support | Which is better for XP Leveling? | Discuss

    i didnt take the time to read every1's long replies so sry if i repeat sum1...

     

     

    but i think the best way for xp is running ur killstreaks at  5- pred missile 6- air strike and 7-chopper because its sooo easy to get a 7 kill streak and its not even hard to get a 14 kill streak and in that case u get them all twice and yea the air strike blows but its still points for calling it in

  • Re: Rushing Tactics | P90 vs MP7 | Specialist vs Support | Which is better for XP Leveling? | Discuss

    I like both of them but for me the MP7 gets the overall nod.  I can basically use my MP7 setup on any map, it's very solid almost AR like at times. To me the most versitile SMG.

     

    The P90 shines the most for me when I am pure balls out hardcore rushing on small close quater maps.  I love it with the silencer/range setup running steady aim as my third perk.  To me it is the best hipfiring smg, then when you add the steady aim it's even nastier. I will hardly ever ADS running and gunning with it.

  • Re: Rushing Tactics | P90 vs MP7 | Specialist vs Support | Which is better for XP Leveling? | Discuss

    Winning is more important to lvling up. If you can string together a good party then run specialist. If going solo or with 1 other Id run some low support. But the Win bonus makes it ridiculous  ***By support I mean UAV CP PRED/SENTRY IMS. Or I do run the 5,6,7 alot

  • Re: Rushing Tactics | P90 vs MP7 | Specialist vs Support | Which is better for XP Leveling? | Discuss
    rlbl

    Specialist package everyday of the week.  Once it gets going (i.e. you get a enough kills while using the perks), it is not uncommon to get 10k-30k xp per game (and I am not talking every 10 or so games either):

     

    - Running specialist is like have double XP on all the time (depending on gme mode)

    - You get the bonuses for achieving the perks x amount of times

    - You get the bonuses for achieving any perk x amount of times

    - You get the bonuses for achieving all perks x amount of times

    - When you get a perk, you work towards making that perk pro

    - When you get a perk that is pro,  you work towards both "pro perk" challenges

     

    It is not uncommon to see bonuses just flying across the screen all day

     

    Here are a couple of vids to show what I mean:

     

     

    Note in this one how I complete challenges on perks I achieved:

     

  • Re: Rushing Tactics | P90 vs MP7 | Specialist vs Support | Which is better for XP Leveling? | Discuss

    Personally i hate the MP7's ironsights,just cant get used to them so itd be the p90 for me but this is also my least used SMG.I much prefer the PP90M1 or even the PM-9(a wee gem if used in the right set up).

     

    As for levelling up everyone knows ther benefits of specialist,i cant comment on support as i rarely use it but someone already said winning the game gives you a substantial win bonus.

     

    Switching guns regulary as well also helps,getting to 500 and changing,i personally cant understand people going for gold camo.