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  • 15. Re: How can anyone stand Hard Core?

    creaper21 wrote:

     

    Explosives are just as overpowered as they were in MW2 when you play Hardcore. Explosives might be the most frustrating thing to deal with if you're playing Hardcore. I can't stand them.

    You mean explosives are more realistic? You can't recover from them like you can from just about everything in Core? With the exception of the XM25, you only get two 203 shells with your under barrel attachment and with the other launcher. If any of the other RPG's were to explode next to you, you should die. If a grenade or claymore, etc blows up next to you, you should die..

  • 16. Re: How can anyone stand Hard Core?
    creaper21

    Realism has nothing to do with a video game. So no, I mean Explosives are overpowered.

  • 17. Re: How can anyone stand Hard Core?

    creaper21 wrote:

     

    Realism has nothing to do with a video game. So no, I mean Explosives are overpowered.

    How did I know someone would take "realistic" at face value. Yes, it's a video game, but when a grenade blows up 2ft. away from you and you don't die from it? Really? When C4 detonates 5ft. from you and you don't die from it? When a Barrett .50 hits you in the chest and you don't die from it? Okay, so I'm going astray from the whole explosion thing, but seriously...Core is like boxing with football pads on.

     

    - vTc Goose

  • 18. Re: How can anyone stand Hard Core?
    jdwildcat2003

    I stopped playing Core long ago for many reasons:

     

    1. Noobs:  Kids lobbing grenades, javelins and RPGs all over the map to get kills, never knowing where the enemy may be.  In Hardcore, a misplaced grenade or javelin gets you killed.  So VERY little noobing in HC.

     

    2. KIDS: Whiney, mouthy ignorant 11 yr olds are far fewer on HC than Core.

     

    3. Realism:  Much closer to reality.  When I hit someone with a 7.62mm from a Mk14 in HC, they go down.  In Core it takes 3 shots.  In Core it can take 2 shots to kill with the Barret 50 caliber sniper rifle.  This is laughable.  In HC, one shot will do it.

     

    4. Map:  The map is a crutch for players without skill.  They can ALWAYS see where their players are, see where shots are fired from etc.  In HC, this is only available when a UAV is up making you have to pay attention where you are and LOOK for the enemy.

     

    5. Camping:  It's NO worse in HC than Core.  However, what many idiots call camping is someone 'moving slowly' in an area to be cautious.  In HC you can't run around with reckless abandon and expect to be successful.

     

    6. Stealth Bombers: In Core, yahoos tee up the ole Stealth Bomber with total disregard for team mates, because there is no problem with launching a bay of bombs on your friends.  This is stupid.  In HC, you can't do that. If you drop on your team, you die.

     

    7. Silencers: Silenced weapons work in HC without having to shoot a person 5 times.

     

    I play HC almost exclusively.  When my clan mates take me back to a Core game I feel like I'm going back to kindergarton.  The game play and communication of the players is like a playground.  No thought, no strategy, just mindless running, spraying and gunning.

     

    Hardcore is the best aspect of MW3. 

  • 19. Re: How can anyone stand Hard Core?
    creaper21

    vTc__Goose wrote:

     

    creaper21 wrote:

     

    Realism has nothing to do with a video game. So no, I mean Explosives are overpowered.

    How did I know someone would take "realistic" at face value. Yes, it's a video game, but when a grenade blows up 2ft. away from you and you don't die from it? Really? When C4 detonates 5ft. from you and you don't die from it? When a Barrett .50 hits you in the chest and you don't die from it? Okay, so I'm going astray from the whole explosion thing, but seriously...Core is like boxing with football pads on.

     

    - vTc Goose

    In real life, you won't fall 10 feet and die. In the game, you can.

    In real life, you cannot get shot 4 times in the foot and keep walking. In the game, you can.

    Hell, in real life, you know how much ammo you have!

     

    These realism arguments are dumb. I don't care if it "makes sense" that a grenade should kill me. It is unbalanced and that's all that matters in a video game.

  • 20. Re: How can anyone stand Hard Core?
    half-megatron

    "1. Noobs:  Kids lobbing grenades, javelins and RPGs all over the map to get kills, never knowing where the enemy may be.  In Hardcore, a misplaced grenade or javelin gets you killed."

     

    thats weird...because I swear this is why I dont play HC on mw3....oh and don't forget xm25's

  • 21. Re: How can anyone stand Hard Core?

    creaper21 wrote:

     

    vTc__Goose wrote:

     

    creaper21 wrote:

     

    Realism has nothing to do with a video game. So no, I mean Explosives are overpowered.

    How did I know someone would take "realistic" at face value. Yes, it's a video game, but when a grenade blows up 2ft. away from you and you don't die from it? Really? When C4 detonates 5ft. from you and you don't die from it? When a Barrett .50 hits you in the chest and you don't die from it? Okay, so I'm going astray from the whole explosion thing, but seriously...Core is like boxing with football pads on.

     

    - vTc Goose

    In real life, you won't fall 10 feet and die. In the game, you can.

    In real life, you cannot get shot 4 times in the foot and keep walking. In the game, you can.

    Hell, in real life, you know how much ammo you have!

     

    These realism arguments are dumb. I don't care if it "makes sense" that a grenade should kill me. It is unbalanced and that's all that matters in a video game.

    Again, you're taking my "Realistic" a bit far here. I did not say that I am in fact comparing this to "Real Life" I simply said "realistic". Is this game not based on a "realistic" model? Are the characters, etc, fiction? Yes, but they aren't cartoon aliens or talking dogs. The "Game" is based on "Realism" to an extent. So for you to keep pushing your "It's a game" argument with Core which at this point has gone on some other tangent is rather silly. Are you arguing for the simple fact of, or do you have a point? I made a few, and you seem to be attacking my choice of words with your opinion, which you are in fact entitled as am I.

     

    That being said - I play both Core and Hard Core. I think Core can be cheesy at times. As I stated it's like boxing with football gear on. Sure you can get knocked out, but it takes a whole hell of a lot more. People complain about "campers" in HC and 'claim' that there's no such thing in Core. That's BS and we all know it. Not once did I deny that there are campers in Core, nor did I argue that tubes are abused and can be annoying. Sure, some explosives are a pain. I think that in Core they should get a bit of a buff. Not necessarily the 203 fired from an under barrel, or the ones from an XM25, but perhaps other explosives.

     

    re·al·is·tic

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                1.interested in, concerned with, or based on what is real orpractical: a realistic estimate of costs; a realistic planner.

    2.

    pertaining to, characterized by, or given to therepresentation in literature or art of things as they reallyare: a realistic novel.

    3.

    resembling or simulating real life: a duck hunter skilled atmaking realistic decoys.

    4.

    Philosophy . of or pertaining to realists or realism.

     

  • 22. Re: How can anyone stand Hard Core?
    creaper21

    Wow. Thanks for giving me the definition. I clearly did not know what realism means.

     

    Go back and read your first comment. You think explosives should be this powerful because it's more realistic. But like I said, this is a video game. And realism does not matter in a video game.

  • 23. Re: How can anyone stand Hard Core?

    creaper21 wrote:

     

    Wow. Thanks for giving me the definition. I clearly did not know what realism means.

     

    Go back and read your first comment. You think explosives should be this powerful because it's more realistic. But like I said, this is a video game. And realism does not matter in a video game.

    Ignorance is bliss...

     

    I'm done with this argument it's obviously going nowhere. Fall back on your only crutch, and keep copy / pasting it. It's my "GAME" that I paid for and I'll play it as I choose. Enough said. Thank you, come again.

     

    - vTc Goose.

     

    p.s. You're welcome. One last thought - Perhaps you should read what you wrote. Realism has a lot to do with THIS "Video Game" but its okay...

  • 24. Re: How can anyone stand Hard Core?
    creaper21

    I'm fine with the fact that you or anyone else thinks it's balanced. That's your opinion. But saying it's fine simply because it's more 'realistic' is dumb.

     

    MW3 is an arcade shooter. They go for balance first, realism second. They obviously skipped that part when it comes to Hardcore though.

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