17 Replies Latest reply: Apr 4, 2012 5:12 AM by trialstardragon RSS

Call of Duty is dirt CHEAP!

This is the laggiest Call of Duty I've ever played! I thought Black Ops was bad... but this game is even WORSE! I have a 50MG connection, one of the best you can get, but I get penalized because they have "lag compensation". They're too cheap and greedy to add dedicated servers for Xbox users, all the TOP games use them, and they run smooth: Halo, Gears of War, and Battlefield, etc. How come Call of Duty doesn't? They're cheap and greedy, they used the same engine since 2007! But again, Halo, Gears of War, and Battlefield upgrade they're engine, and give back to they're fans.

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    They use lag compensation to help out those kids who have horrible connections because their either on the cheapest connection you can buy or their downloading porn while they play. In my opinion, if you don't want to shell out for a good connection, then don't complain. I pay good money so I can play lag free.. I guess its pointless since I get lagged because of johhny with his 56k connection... Sputnik anyone?

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    trialstardragon

    You are a fool, every game made that plays online has lag compensation in it, even the games that use dedicated servers.

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      pipebombman

      to just say they all use it is arbitrary... MW3 uses it and so does Halo: Reach... MW3 is flawed... Halo: Reach is nearly flawless...

       

      that is the difference

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      All the games I played with dedicated servers, I never noticed ANY problems. Call of Duty on the other hand, complete LAG-FEST.

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        trialstardragon

        BF3 which uses dedi's can be just as laggy as this game can be at times. Dedi servers do not fix lag completely. they only remove host migration and stat padding through dashboarding.

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          pipebombman

          oh yea i wasn't calling anyone out... The strange thing with BF3 at least on the PC is the fact that once you find the graphics sweet spot there is virtually no lag.. The console however has some odd hit detection at some times but overall pretty good.

           

          BF3 lags so much sometimes because people can choose w/e server they want.. say some retard picks one he has 400 MS ping to...

           

          I'm a cod fan first, halo second, bf third... but clearly i can rate MW3 way of handeling lag as last. it is just true...

           

          one way i have handled MW3 lag is by using Cat-6e cable... IDK but it seems to handle lag... I guess MW3 requires an crap ton of bandwidth at sometimes during the game and Cat-6e is what can handle it... Cat-5e just doesn't always seem to keep up...

           

          I forgot my Cat-6e cable back at home (in another state currently) and for the month i have been using Cat-5e again i can seriously tell a difference.

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            trialstardragon

            It does have problems I am not denying that. My issue with the OP was saying that it is because IW did not use dedi's that causes it. when even games with ded's can be laggy depending of teh server you get if it has no server browser to choose the best one from.

             

            So even if IW ever used dedi's it still may not fix the problem if the did not add a server browser and that is something I could see them doing.

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    except no one played halo reach.  halo 3 was the second best fps ever (after perfect dark). but they wanted to be like cod and ****** it all up.   what i dont get is mw2 got it right, but lag ops and make worse 3 are a garbage lagfest.

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      pipebombman

      MW2 is sometimes an illusion... since ARs were 2 hit kills it didnt matter if you actually landed 4, but the game only registered 2... if ARs... especially the fad take 3,4,5 bullets then lag comp is actually noticable to the human reaction...

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    dastealth

    TheTruthMVP wrote:

     

    This is the laggiest Call of Duty I've ever played! I thought Black Ops was bad... but this game is even WORSE! I have a 50MG connection, one of the best you can get, but I get penalized because they have "lag compensation". They're too cheap and greedy to add dedicated servers for Xbox users, all the TOP games use them, and they run smooth: Halo, Gears of War, and Battlefield, etc. How come Call of Duty doesn't? They're cheap and greedy, they used the same engine since 2007! But again, Halo, Gears of War, and Battlefield upgrade they're engine, and give back to they're fans.

    I hate to tell you but Halo does not use Dedicated servers on the Xbox 360 either, nor does Gears of War 3 I thought. BF3 does but you can experience some wierd lag at times and as said earlier, DEDICATED SERVERS ARE NOT THE SOLUTION...

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      TheRandyNinja

      i thought gears 3 did have dedis. and all games have a type of lag comp but dedis will help reduce the effect so its not as strong. i think the guy commenting that it wont make a blind bit of diffrence needs to get off his high horse and do some research because your making yourself look like an idiot.

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        trialstardragon

        Actually I do know waht I am talking about I have been playing games for 30 years. I have even ran dedicated servers for several pc games before.

         

        Dedicated servers are not the magic bullet that fixes all lag issues as some people like to think it is. the only real thing it does is keep lag at a constant and not fluctuate as much as it does with p2p where the host may change and the lag changes with the host such as in a host migration. Dedi's only keep lag at a constant because everyone connects to the server so what ever you ping is on connect it will be that every time you use that sever baring any strange internet routeing table issues through all the myriad of connections aka hops before you get there. But that does not mean lag will be better. if you live far enough form the server and your ping is high enough and there is no server closer than you will always suffer the higher ping and lag.

         

        But MW3 will never get them no matter how much anyone here ever cries about it, nor what anyone here ever says about how it will make it better. So regardless of what you think or want it will not ever happen in this game.

         

        Perhaps when the next gen consoles come out they may ever consider it; but I would not hold my breath either.

         

        Not every game plays better just because of the use of dedi servers. It depend upon the game engine and netcode and if it was made to use them. So no they can not just add them to this game and all or most of the problems would go away. That just would not happen.

         

        The video you posted has nothing to do with consoles or games in any form what so ever. PC p2p is not exactly the same as console p2p, and this is the xbox 360 sub forum meaning console, not pc.

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          TheRandyNinja

          there all computers and they act in similar ways. im not saying that they will or should add them to mw3 because we all know this wouldnt happen. my point is that having a dedicated server DOES decrease the problem it dosent fix it but makes it alot better. its the cost and acti wouldnt want to spend the extra cash on servers as the player count is huge and more people more servers more cost. my responce was to you saying dedicated servers are not the soloution but they are theres a reason pc have used them for so long. p2p increases the chance of lag switches and what not where dedis everybodys on pretty much a level playing field. p2p has allways been a cheaper solotion but with the amount of money earnt they have no excuse to put them in. i also have a good 20 years in gaming on pc and consoles i have also hosted dedis and whilst they cant fix everything they do not punnish you for having low ping and a good connection.

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            trialstardragon

            You are right activision does not want to give up the money for the cost of setting up all the server farms they would need to support the title and then maintian them each year as needed.

             

            You forget IW and activision are buiness and are out to make as much money as possible not spend it for any reason other that what is absolutely needed.

             

            Yes ded's can help in some cases but this game will probably never see them on this generation of console or probably ever.

             

            It is just not cost effective for them to do this just to please some of the players when the majority seems more than willing to continue playing on p2p hosted games. the community here on this site is the minority truth be had.

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      GoW3 does have dedicated servers. Although there was a period where they took them away for a few weeks. But it does have Dedicated servers.