32 Replies Latest reply: Jul 8, 2012 4:49 PM by coltfirearms RSS

Stealth Bomber: Support Killstreak or not?

I've been playing MW3 for a while now and it seems like the stealth bomber is more assault package than support. Support was meant for NON-lethal killstreaks right? ( sorry if my spelling is off, just woke up ). What do you think? does the stealth bomber belong in the support package or assault? I honestly think its a assault package.

  • Re: Stealth Bomber: Support Killstreak or not?
    nicedrewishfela

    I make the argument that it belongs in Support. First off, let me say I play Hardcore. In core its ridiculous, it can be dropped anywhere, but in Hardcore its truly a support perk. Hardcore is not as fast paced as Core, usually, and many times one team will dig into one area of the map. I have begun using the Stealth Bomber in my support package because if I can get to that 14 point streak, I can use it to clear out a section of the map and let my teammates advance. Because of thr richochet rules, if I drop it on any of my teammates, I will die, so I can't just drop it haphazardly.

    • Re: Stealth Bomber: Support Killstreak or not?

      nicedrewishfela wrote:

       

      I make the argument that it belongs in Support. First off, let me say I play Hardcore. In core its ridiculous, it can be dropped anywhere, but in Hardcore its truly a support perk. Hardcore is not as fast paced as Core, usually, and many times one team will dig into one area of the map. I have begun using the Stealth Bomber in my support package because if I can get to that 14 point streak, I can use it to clear out a section of the map and let my teammates advance. Because of thr richochet rules, if I drop it on any of my teammates, I will die, so I can't just drop it haphazardly.

      I don't want to have a go, but I play a lot of Hardcore Dom... FFS Stealth is ridiculous, it literally smashes most of the map - its so hard to avoid dying from it in HC its unreal.

       

      Now you might think thats fair, but the amount of streaks/M.O.A.Bs it ruins is just unfair. Its incredibly easy to get, 14 streak on support? No wonder there are at like 5-10 every game of HC Dom. I'm talking I run in a building and NOPE still gets me, oh well I guess I didn't want that Osprey gunner.

       

      You dying means nothing, you rock support which means you don't give a crap about dying (and probably do it a lot) as it doesnt even matter. So don't try and tell me you have to be careful because of ricochet.

       

      So I don't know which game mode you play but if I used support, which I generally refuse to do, I would hit 4-5 stealth in a game of HC Dom easy. Now why is that a fair and 'Support'? Don't even get me started on the BS that is EMP etc...

  • Re: Stealth Bomber: Support Killstreak or not?
    scolia5044

    They just should have made Assualt alot Stronger that's all but it doesn't say anywhere about non leathal streaks not being  in Support the Stealth Bomber can clear out a area for Capping or defending

  • Re: Stealth Bomber: Support Killstreak or not?

    >clear out areas

     

    By that logic, the Sentry Gun, Airstrike, Strafe Run, Reaper, pretty much all the controllable lethal killstreaks are support.

     

    Seriously, how is the Stealth Bomber different from a beefed up Airstrike? Besides the fact that the enemy can't see where it's coming from, I sure as hell don't see a single difference.

  • Re: Stealth Bomber: Support Killstreak or not?

    the should be no streak in support that gives you kills it is one of the cheapest things in the cod series to date

  • Re: Stealth Bomber: Support Killstreak or not?

    IMO,  the entire support package was a bad idea. 

  • Re: Stealth Bomber: Support Killstreak or not?
    vims1990

    The Stealth Bomber should have been an Assault Pointstreak.

  • Re: Stealth Bomber: Support Killstreak or not?

    Like its always said another idea for the bad players who can't get consecutive kills

    • Re: Stealth Bomber: Support Killstreak or not?
      nicedrewishfela

      So getting consecutive kills is the only indication of a good player? Sorry, thats ridiculous. Objective players may not get the extended killstreaks because they play the objective. Others root out campers or break through lines. Just because they don't get ridiculously long kill streaks does not mean they are bad players. The support strike package was meant for those players who put their team above themselves. Was it built perfectly? No. But the idea was sound. For the first time, people who play a team game by shooting down Air Support, taking out enemy killstreaks, or capping objectives are rewarded. There are reasons for using the support streak, and its no longer just advantageous to sit back and let kill streaks do all the work.

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    I have no idea why so many people complain about the stealth bomber. I used to run support exclusively up until about a week ago, and I must say, support as a whole is a turd compared to assault. I understand that's the way it kinda has to be, since streaks aren't reset upon death. So there's one lethal killstreak, BIG DEAL. A properly placed stealth bomber nets 3 or 4 kills tops, usually 1-2. It's laughably easy to rack up kills with the assualt killstreaks, especially running care package, pred, and chopper with hardline. Support is underpowered the way it is. I mean, I know I'll never go back. Assualt basically gives me 10 free kills every match, it's ridiculous. I think they should buff support honestly.

    • Re: Stealth Bomber: Support Killstreak or not?
      scolia5044

      I love Assasult but it needs a buff IMO but on a good day i have taken out 8 players with one of these I think Assualt is a turd compared too Support

      • Re: Stealth Bomber: Support Killstreak or not?

        8 with a stealth bomber? What game mode were you playing?

         

        I just have to disagree with you on that. Are you not good at chaining your kills or something? All it takes is one good run and your match is made more often than not, as people don't really like to give up their akimbo FMG's for an anti-air launcher. Use hardline and 4, 5, 7 and I think you'll see what I mean. Care packages almost always give you something good in this game, and you only need 3 kills for it.

         

        And if you think support is OP, why not just use it instead of assualt?

        • Re: Stealth Bomber: Support Killstreak or not?
          scolia5044

          No it's very easy too take out Assualt Steaks getting 12 kills for a pavelow is great but getting 3-4 kills with one isn't and by the way i play Ground Wars and for my 16th prestige i decided too just run Support and Specialist. My last prestige i got 2 pavelows but guess what i only had 2-5 kills with them before they were shot down. With a stealh bomber the only chance of not getting a kill is if they are hiding in a building some of the assualt streaks need a buff

          • Re: Stealth Bomber: Support Killstreak or not?

            Ah I gotcha. Well it makes sense ground wars would have more objective-based players willing to shoot down killstreaks. Whenever I do play ground wars I tend to run support for that reason. Plus I'm a tag collector in kc and a flag capper in dom so I'm always dying. I see what you're saying now. And honestly I think it would make perfect sense if air support had proportionally more health, since there are more players in the game shooting it down.

          • Re: Stealth Bomber: Support Killstreak or not?
            vims1990

            So true, I have more kills when I used to use the Stealth Bomber compared to a Pave Low considering that it's so easy to take out Pave Lows.

             

            The Pave Low could do with an extra flare.

  • Re: Stealth Bomber: Support Killstreak or not?
    chowpup

    Funny thing is, no one is using the stealth bomber to clear out an objective, 9/10 they place it o the spawn.

  • Re: Stealth Bomber: Support Killstreak or not?
    rlbl

    A point I think about:

     

    Stealth (support) - often gets kills (even if placed improperly)

    Air Strike (assault) - often misses everything

     

    Did I miss something?

    • Re: Stealth Bomber: Support Killstreak or not?

      rlbl wrote:

       

      A point I think about:

       

      Stealth (support) - often gets kills (even if placed improperly)

      Air Strike (assault) - often misses everything

       

      Did I miss something?

      Yeah that Air Stike (Assault) covers a peice of map the size of a stamp, Stealth rinses an entire line of map and kills me when I'm underground or inside a concrete building.

  • Re: Stealth Bomber: Support Killstreak or not?

    If they are going to make EMPs and Juggernauts so easy to get with the support killstreaks, they should raise the kills for it. I mean I get EMPs about 3 to 4 times a game when I play, and at a minute long they are just too frequent. Something like this should either be a 22 killstreak (in support) or lower the time to 30 seconds instead of the minute. Same for stealth bomber, it should be raised to 16 due to it being too easy to achieve. I play games and see about 10 plus stealth bombers a game and around 6 EMPs a game. That is too much,it's basically constant killstreaks.

     

    It's just a little annoying at times, and me being one of the people that can actually get them many many times in a game it is really easy.

  • Re: Stealth Bomber: Support Killstreak or not?

    There should be no "support" killstreaks that get kills because they are "leathal".

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    I think that it is a little op because all you have to get is 14 points and you have it and just about every time, you get a kill or to and half of the assault can't do crap and when you want to get them you can't die. retarded.

    • Re: Stealth Bomber: Support Killstreak or not?
      X_MISSILE_X

      aslt wrote:

       

      I think that it is a little op because all you have to get is 14 points and you have it and just about every time, you get a kill or to and half of the assault can't do crap and when you want to get them you can't die. retarded.

      The stealth bomber is decent. Only a fool wouldn't know there is one approaching the map. The assault killstreaks can DO crap on the other players.

       

      If stealth bomber is ever put into assault, which I highly doubt, it should have a bit more radius and the ability to kill players on spawn invincibility. Since killstreaks stack, it should be placed at 15 or 17. Any 9 year old with a predator and a reaper stack would be able to get it if it was 12 kills. Players would whine about spam.

       

      Add flare to Attack helicopter. Add flares to Strafe Run for god's sake (IMO it's an easy predator). Add flare to Pave low & Osprey.

      EMP should be placed on assault next to Osprey Gunner at 17 killstreak, btw.

       

      Stealth bomber on support should be 18 points to compete with EMP. Hell, buff the points needed to get them on support. = This will induce more players to actually play objectives, cough* team support.

      • Re: Stealth Bomber: Support Killstreak or not?
        vims1990

        If stealth bomber is ever put into assault, which I highly doubt, it should have a bit more radius and the ability to kill players on spawn invincibility. Since killstreaks stack, it should be placed at 15 or 17. Any 9 year old with a predator and a reaper stack would be able to get it if it was 12. Players would whine about spam. EMP should be placed on assault next to Osprey Gunner at 17 killstreak, btw.

         

        IMO, the current Stealth Bomber's radius is good enough as it is if it was placed as an Assault Pointstreak. (which is highly unlikely).

         

        Also, I think the Stealth Bomber should remain as a 9 pointstreak (like MW2) competing with the Reaper & AH6 Overwatch considering 15 or 17 points is pretty high just for one sweep of the map.

         

        It wouldn't be much of a problem as a lowered Assault Pointstreak as it requires you to get on a decent streak without dying so I don't think it'll be spammed as it is in Support.

         

        The EMP on the other hand should remain in support. I don't consider it an Assault Pointstreak but I would say lower the EMP effect from 1 minute down to 30 seconds.

        • Re: Stealth Bomber: Support Killstreak or not?
          X_MISSILE_X

          vims1990 wrote:

           

          Also, I think the Stealth Bomber should remain as a 9 pointstreak (like MW2) competing with the Reaper & AH6 Overwatch considering 15 or 17 points is pretty high just for one sweep of the map.

           

          It wouldn't be much of a problem as a lowered Assault Pointstreak as it requires you to get on a decent streak without dying so I don't think it'll be spammed as it is in Support.

          The only problem that would concern me is: players running hardline pro.

          Streaks: Predator > Precision Airstrike > Stealth Bomber

          I have this class setup: Predator> Airstrike > AGM or ah6


          In one match of Ground war domination I got 5 AGM's on village. Equaling 5 stealth bombers.   On interchange I usually get 4 reapers due to party spawn trapping players at A.  Maybe it is in support for that reason? =

           

          EMP to 30 seconds is the best idea. Instead of just calling it in, players would have to stratigically use it. Less spam.

          • Re: Stealth Bomber: Support Killstreak or not?
            vims1990

            It depends on how experienced the player is. In your case, it would benefit you but I would use either the Reaper or AH6 Overwatch over the Stealth Bomber anyday.

             

            The problem I have with the support stealth bomber isn't necessary the typical casual player gaining it, it's more the experienced player using the current support pointstreak to their advantage.

             

            On average, a decent player will earn the support Stealth Bomber at least 2-3 times a match depending on game mode & they can die as many times as they want.

             

            At least with Assault, they will have to stay alive to keep their streak going.

  • Re: Stealth Bomber: Support Killstreak or not?

    Support Killstreak doesn't belonging in CoD. You can support your team with perks such as Recon and Assult such as Uav.

  • Re: Stealth Bomber: Support Killstreak or not?

    Anyone who thinks Stealth Bombers should stay in Support needs to sell their game.

  • Re: Stealth Bomber: Support Killstreak or not?

    I have been saying this. Support NEEDS to be non lethal.