35 Replies Latest reply: Jun 22, 2012 9:18 PM by Mojammer RSS

Why am I not good?lol

Lunartrick79

Alright I have two things to talk about in this topic.Recently i came into a lobby and a guy said "You arent good if you dont get a M.O.A.B."I thought to myself that is not true at all.M.O.A.B's arent everything.I most of the time go for good "gun" gameplays i could care less for a M.O.A.B.Ive had 10 M.O.A.B.s and do not go for them anymore im satisfied with the number i have.Also I run suppost killstreaks because I like to help my team out and i already have all the assault gold titles Ac-130,Pavelow,Sentry Gun Etc. I even have the suppost Stealth Bomber gold title but because I use support I am a bad player?What are your guys takes on this.

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    Rednecksniper39

    As to the MOAB thing don't listen to the guy. Any player could camp or boost and get one. And for support it depends how you use it. If you use it to support your team and help win the game then your not bad. But if you use support like assault killstreaks then I wouldn't say you are the best.

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    nicedrewishfela

    People like to elevate themselves above others any way they can. There is a lot of bluster and bragging that takes place in this game. All you need to worry about is if you are having fun playing.

     

    Me= Zero MOABS. And I could care less. I know that I am an average player, but I only look at it from game to game. I have great games, I have bad games. The truth is, nobody is impressed by MOABs anymore, they are all over YouTube and the term is making us all a little ill at this point.

     

    Good players enjoy the game and play the way they want to. They don't impose their game style on others, nor do they impact the play of others with negative tactics (like TKing or trapping them in corners). If they play objective game types and actually play the objective... they are a good player. If they play team modes and put the needs of the team above their own, they are a good player. If they can play the game without using known exploits, cheats, or mods and still have success, they are a good player. If they don't go on and trash talk(talking about the uncalled for variety, it can be in good fun among friends, I understand this), bully, or belittle people, they are a good player. 

     

    Skill doesn't always equal a good player. Stats don't always equal a good player.  Its a game, its meant to be played for fun, for challenge, and for competition.  Don't buy into the good player/bad player mentality, only on if you are doing the best you can and having fun in the process.

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      The way I always look at is this... Skill doesn't always apply to kills and killstreaks. The only time that really matters is in free for all really. If you are playing a team oriented game and you are helping your team however you can thats all that really matters. To me anyways.. I'm not that great at MW3 or call of duty in general but I hold my own in most matches. MOABs aren't really that big of a deal.... once again thats just my opinion though.

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    there is no i in team . i fully agree with nicedrewishfela's statement .

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    I didnt get a single MOAB until 6 months after the game came out. I have a couple, but they dont mean anything beyond the other team you played sucked, and you most likely have/had a connection advantage.

     

    I use support all the time now. I started out using assault KS, just like every other CoD game. I play HC most of the time, so specialist isnt all that great, since no health regen and all. Support w/UAV + Ballistics is my HC Specialist package. I started out running them just for me, but Ive since noticed that after using them for a while, my team seems to win more often when I run support rather than when I run assault.

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    novapr0ph37

    No, getting a moab doesn't mean you're good. But it's a start. IMO if you haven't earned at least one, you're probably the guy that's getting slammed in games. And you're looking to be be good at the game....doing the "best you can and having fun in the process" isn't working to get better. People start to make excuses for why they're bad and don't try working on getting better because they -think- they're "average" or "decent" when they really aren't. Don't hype yourself up. If you're bad, figure out what you're doing wrong.

    @nicedrew. You're k/d is below a 1. That means you die more times than you kill and you lose over half of your games. You think you're average but you're not. You're below average. You're a good example of a person hyping themselves up and hoping that they are considered average. And you become satisfied with this and don't work to get better. Nicedrew, no offense, but don't give advice when you don't have room to give advice. Skill does equal a good player.

    @lunar If you want to get better, get advice from the people that are destroying you. Find out what they are doing different and change your routine. If you get too comfortable with how you're playing, you'll get comfortable with getting slaughtered.

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      DeeTaurus

      novapr0ph37 wrote:

       

      No, getting a moab doesn't mean you're good. But it's a start. IMO if you haven't earned at least one, you're probably the guy that's getting slammed in games. And you're looking to be be good at the game....doing the "best you can and having fun in the process" isn't working to get better. People start to make excuses for why they're bad and don't try working on getting better because they -think- they're "average" or "decent" when they really aren't. Don't hype yourself up. If you're bad, figure out what you're doing wrong.

      @nicedrew. You're k/d is below a 1. That means you die more times than you kill and you lose over half of your games. You think you're average but you're not. You're below average. You're a good example of a person hyping themselves up and hoping that they are considered average. And you become satisfied with this and don't work to get better. Nicedrew, no offense, but don't give advice when you don't have room to give advice. Skill does equal a good player.

      @lunar If you want to get better, get advice from the people that are destroying you. Find out what they are doing different and change your routine. If you get too comfortable with how you're playing, you'll get comfortable with get slaughtered.

      I dont get why you pointed out what Nicedrew said - he wans't hyping him self up? Looks like he plays the game for fun.         Whats your stats o lord Nova?

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        well right or wrong, someone who is below a 1 kd really shouldnt give advise

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          trialstardragon

          That is where you are wrong. K/Dr does not determine your skill in the game at all. Only fools and tools think it does. So are you a fool or a tool?

           

          I have a .95 if you ever looked at my elite stats average. But I can go anywhere from 1.0-3.0 in games. I just play lots of objective games where I do not give a damn about my kd at that point. I may die 20 times and only get 3 kills but in the end if I kept the other team busy enough that they did not win then that is all that mattered.

           

          In KC I hardly even go for kills, I just run around and pick up dog tags that the kill whores do not go for and instead try to camp for the player coming back after them.

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        novapr0ph37

        @dee .... He said he was an average player. Stats below a 1 are below average. That's hyping yourself up. My opinion. And the op wasn't looking for tips on how to have fun on the game. He was looking for tips on getting better. If drew plays the game for fun and not to get better, he should'nt give tips. My stats- 3.19 k/d 78% w/l. I'm not saying I'm the best, but I guess Lord Nova is a good enough title. Thanks. lol. I'm not bashing the guy, those are his stats,I'm just reading them. lol.

        https://elite.callofduty.com/career#/playercardmw3

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      nicedrewishfela

      You really have a lot of nerve. You have NO clue of who I am or how I play. You think you can look at some stats and define me? I don't think so.

       

      Is my K/D under 1? Yep, sure is. I play a lot, and I play the way I want to play. I use various weapons, I try different things, and I have good games and bad games.  I've played a LOT of CoD over the years and have had varied degrees of success. Calling myself an "average player" is hyping myself up? You need to buy a damn clue.

       

      I play for FUN. There was a period during Black Ops where I became too serious about trying to maintain my stats and the game lost all semblance of fun for me. I took a break, came back, and changed my playstyle to just have fun. Try different things, play different game modes. I still mostly play HCTDM, but thats my game of choice and what my friends mostly play.

       

      I am an older gamer, not ancient by any means, but older. My eyesight has never been great and it can be a challenge for me when I play, I don't always see or react as quickly to certain things as I used to. FYI, I was well above a 1 K/D and had a positive W/L record (Since that seems to be your only definition of what a "good" player is) in MW3 through the first several months of the game. In February I moved, took some time away from playing as I was waiting for internet to be installed. I also bought a larger screen TV than I had ever played on before. When I came back on, I felt like someone who had never played the game before. My aim was way off, and it took weeks to get it back. There have been threads about this happening to folks who switch to larger TVs, its not something new. In fact I switched to other games like Skyrim for a while just to get a sense of where my aim-point was.  My stats took a major beating during that time frame.

       

      The other factor? Most of the friends on my playlist stopped playing this game. They became fed up with the nonsense and moved on to other games. When I came on, I would get stuck in rooms of randoms, which as anyone who plays can lead to mixed results. When we play as a group, my win percentage and K/D tend to go up, but working a  second shift schedule combined with fewer friends playing means more lone-gunning.

       

      Also have played a lot of 1v1 matches since Face-Off came out. Since I am not a core player, the adjustment has been a struggle. I lose more of those than I win, but I enjoy the challenge and have had some success.

       

      I don't camp. I tend to move around a lot, but adjust my gameplay when need be to match the needs of the current lobby I am in.  For some reason, in this iteration of CoD, I have more games in which I go through a pattern of games where I spawn and die frequently. Not something I am crazy about, that's for sure.

       

      I have never claimed to be a "Super-beast" like it seems you think you are, but I hold my own pretty well. The guys I play with know I am a reliable player, a good sport, and fun to play with... that is why they invite me. I have gotten invites from randoms for the same reasons, they know I am friendly enough and a smart, intelligent player. I don't claim to have incredible skill at this game, but where I have an advantage is in experience and tactical intelligence. I always communicate with my teammates, and I do the best I can every match.

       

      You obviously have a lot to learn. You come on here and you judge other people and think you know what a "good" player is, but your comment proves you are just another idiot thinking he is a God at this game and everyone else must be terrible. I came on here to commiserate with the OP about some of the idiots he is facing in the lobbies he is playing in, but now its obvious you are one of them.

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        novapr0ph37

        Looks like I struck a nerve. I'm not trying to be mean or an a-hole. I CAN look at your stats and define you... It's pretty easy. Low k/d, low w/l= not so great of a player(may not play to get better/plays for fun) That's you. You have a lot of excuses...

        The -not so great eye sight-, sorry for that. But you have good enough eye sight to play the game.

         

        The -TV size adjustment- takes a few hours at most. Not weeks lol. I've gone from a 46 to a 23. I know the struggle, but it doesn't take long to get used to it. Some people are slower than others I guess. Not a great excuse for a k/d under 1.

         

        The -My friends don't play-excuse. I play by myself a lot. So do a lot of other players. Your k/d is made by you. Not your friends. Playing with a group does influence it a bit. But no one makes you go negative more than yourself. lol

         

        I don't claim to be a super beast. But I know what a good player is.(in terms of winning)There are good "friendly, fun seeking" players and good "competitive, rarely lose" players. But again, the OP is not looking to make the game more fun, he wants to get _BETTER_.

         

        I have a lot to learn? I win almost 80% of my games. The 20% of losses is from joining losing games that are ending. I never claimed to be the best. I was just giving the OP advice on what advice not to take. I didn't say you were entirely bad, I said you were below average. And you are. Most people will agree lol. The people who also think you're average are probably in the same boat with you. IMO average is 1.6-1.85. These players can hold their own and watch their own back most of the time. 1.0's and below? I try not to say much about them because they have their own agenda (playing for fun, little kids, new players, or just plain bad etc.) Irregardless, they don't have much help in what it takes to be a better player. I don't think the OP is bad player either. My opinions may not help all. But I have watched people rise on the leaderboards because of my advice. Even got one player to place in the top 5 for lone wolf operations. Not trying to toot my own horn, but I've won 4 elite lone wolf operations. One of those was for a snow mobile. I have a lot to learn? No my friend, you have a lot to learn.

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        What console do you play on man? My clan has game nights Saturdays on xbox, and we're a group of older players. Im 24 and the youngest by far (by ~8 years I think lol). Most of us dont play a lot of MW3, but join up Saturdays for some fun games. You can hit me up if you're interested in gaming with a group. GT: DeadestLlama.

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      I can tell you have no idea what you are talking about.

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      trialstardragon

      Moabs mean nothing and anyone that tries to use a Moab as a reference to skill is just a tool and a fool and nothing more.

       

      The fact that drew does not have any does not mean he is a sub par player and can not or should not give advice to anyone.

       

      That sort of attitude it what is wrong with players in this game.

       

      And for the record skill does not equal a good player. All the kills in the world and no deaths would not make you a good player. A good player is one that helps their team in more than just kills. So if you think kills means skills and those with out high kdr are bad or sub average players with no understanding of the game. You really are just a fool who is trying to make themselves sound better and nothing more and you should not be giving advice to others.

       

      Only TDM and FFA is kills the main point of the match. Only those two game modes and last I checked there is more than just those two game modes in the game.

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    CowboySr

    I have no MOABS, cause I play 99% TDM to 7500 points with a group of jackals. Youre lucky if you get 10-15 kills before the game ends. No joke.

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    that6uy420

    most of the kids talking about getting moabs are only playing in modes that kills aren't needed(not tdm)  Let them do this on tdm and then I'll begin thinking differently.  As it stands, these kids camp their arses off in a domination game where they can rack up a ton of kills...

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    Lunartrick79

    I dont need to get better.I have a 1.40 K/d its not that bad.I love to run and gun.You no just jumping in peoples faces and gunning them down is fun for me.Its always been my playstyle.I play demolition and average 2-3 Plants...2-3 Defuses a game.I play the objective and go for kills as well.I just hate being tolled because i run support because i am constantly moving and dont have time to hide in a corner and use my laptop.

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    v0_FATALITY_0v

    This game more then any of the other previous CoD's, i think stats can be thrown out the window. With all the bs (deathstreaks, lag comp, boosting ect) that goes on in this game it's just hard to take this game seriously. I've reached that point where i'm done going super try hard every game, now i'm just trying to have fun and still win as that's the only stat i care about now. "You play to win the game" The game itself is more enjoyable when you just accept the flaws in it and don't go for that moab hunting every game.

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    If they talk trash just one v one them and you will see if your good or not.

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    starbuckfrack

    If you let some guys trash talk get to you in real life then you gotta man up.

     

    If you let some guys trash talk get to you in a video game you need to take off the dress.

     

    Dont let jerks like that get to you. Its YOUR game and you play how YOU want.

     

    BenjyBangz

     

    Thats ONE of the reasons they made one on one Fight in the schoolyard at 3:00.

     

    BTW I use Support because I am there to help the TEAM . If I were in a single player FFA match then thats a different story.

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    JSlayer211

    Sorry but judging someone by stats is just retarded. With all the mods/hacks going around, the people you consider "great" are just a bunch of cheaters.

     

    If I wanted the respect of others, I would just do what they do, cheat. I have a friend with a 2.0 k/d. He is a dashboarding pr0. Plays with such fear and terror for his stats that any challenging game he may lose, he dashes. That doesn't make you good, just makes you a cowardly player.

     

    Some of the things that made me a much better player came on the tough end of a butt kicking. Am I a good player? Dam right. Think I care if anyone believes it? lol.

     

    Don't care if the kids playing the game on auto pilot agree with me or not. MOAB''s are overrated. Don't believe the hype.

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    I dont think the guy was looking to be bashed on here , most likely was looking for responses like "yeah, use this gun" or "play with a team if playing 6v6" not "hey lets go on this guys elite and tell him how bad we think he is"

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    xbevz

    Will it get you a Job?

    Will it get you a Girlfriend?

    Will it get you a house?

     

    M.y

    O.nly

    A.chievement

    B.ores people

     

    It say's a lot about an individual when that's their bragging right!

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      starbuckfrack

      xbevz wrote:

       

      Will it get you a Job?

      Will it get you a Girlfriend?

      Will it get you a house?

       

      M.y

      O.nly

      A.chievement

      B.ores people

       

      It say's a lot about an individual when that's their bragging right!

      THAT was funny

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    WarriorPoet

    Welcome to Modded Warfare 3 where everyone and I mean EVERYONE is better than you.  Well, at least that's what they want you to think.  Don't sweat the idiot comments you'll get and play the way you want and most of all have FUN!

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    Mojammer

    I have a theory that I haven't tried to verify because it would involve trudging through tons of leaderboards and I don't want to take the time:

     

    The averare KDR is less than 1. 

     

    Suicides and ricochet deaths skew the average down just slightly, but ignore those and in every game played there are as many kills as deaths, meaning that in each game the average KDR is 1.

     

    However, not everyone plays the same number of games.  My theory is that the people with KDRs over 1 play more games on average than people with KDRs under 1.  That means that there are more people with KDRs under 1 than there are with KDRs over 1.

     

    Therefore the average players KDR will be less than 1.