32 Replies Latest reply: Sep 19, 2012 4:13 PM by Sensou RSS

My list of OP and Obnoxious

Sensou

This list is a list of things in MW3 that I believe are OP (over powered). Opinions and personal lists are welcome, I know this fiddle has been played a lot on this forum, but I feel like bringing it up again for controversal fun.

 

1. FMG9s-patch after patch seems to not have changed much has it? I think I have one 3 class set ups with these things, but I feel no need to use them due to the fact that they are over used for a massive amount of quick and effortless kills by noobs. (only really use if out of ammo and am trying to wade through a mob to pick up a different weapon)

2. Deadman's Hands- Pffft, did it really get patched?? Blast radius fix my ass, this thing is still as rediculus as the predator missile. (only death streak I've ever used is juiced, everything else is wtf noobish except maybe hollow points which I've never used or will)

3. Final Stand- Didn't Robert Trolling say to hell with Final Stand? Seriously cowardly and annoying, easy choice for a poopy player/noob to really get under your skin.

 

 

 

Small list, no?

Have at it people!

  • Re: My list of OP and Obnoxious
    Sensou

    Maps in MW3 and Black Ops as well, icky, most of them. Spawns are a huge issue in both. Note the revenge spawns.

  • Re: My list of OP and Obnoxious
    GonchiJ

    RPG is the most annoying thing ever. People respawn and immediately think "Great, now I will get one or two kills with my RPG (or Smaw) and then use my regular gun/die again. Then repeat".

     

    I also dislike the revenge spawns, just spawn the guy randomly.

     

    MK14, I have always hated. Two bullets and dead, one if you're lucky and hit 'em in the head - just too easy with quickdraw; IMPOSSIBLE to win if you encounter someone that's already ADSing; doesn't require "good aim" as most people say it does: 1) You can spam the buttom with rapid fire while you attempt to put the crosshairs in your enemy's face 2) Every weapon requires good aim, if you have bad aim with a full auto, you will damage him but not kill him. I tried it out the other day and got it to level 2, ratio 4 on the match I played with it, and I used low killstreaks just for fun, would've been better if I didn't. You can easily take out a whole team in 2-3 seconds.

     

    Assassin is too good (counters UAV, CUAV, AUAV, heartbeat sensor, portable radar, marksman, EMP, the MOAB's EMP), but I understand why people use it so much: For one, support pointstreaks; and portable radars. I have been running Sitrep Pro recently and wow, there's at least one portable radar (usually two, or even three) per lobby. I think its range should be reduced. in some maps like dome, you can just place it in the middle (where it can't be destroyed) and if someone's not using assassin then too bad for 'em. I use the portable radar on most of my classes and its honestly too easy, can't beat them.. join 'em, am I right?

     

    If Dead Silence doesn't counter Sitrep Pro, why does Assassin fully counter Marksman?

     

    There should be a blackbird killstreak (8-9) kills to get rid of those with assassin.

  • Re: My list of OP and Obnoxious
    wridtrvlr

    Here's mine:  YOU'RE OP and OBNOXIOUS!!!

  • Re: My list of OP and Obnoxious

    How can you moan about fmg's then say you use them lol if you run out of ammo use scavenger.

    If not use a singe machine pistol if you run out of ammo a mini smg is better for all around.

     

    Or use extended mags I can get upto 11 kills with like that and then can use a stinger on every class

    • Re: My list of OP and Obnoxious
      Sensou

      I put scavenger last in Specialist, but sometimes I don't make it. And yes I will moan about them because they are obviously a abused weapon. I carry them, but don't abuse them, I can complain and carry them and not abuse them, right?

  • Re: My list of OP and Obnoxious
    Thesandman

    My list has only one point: quit moaning about assassin,its only overused because of all you red dot chasers who constantly spam UAV and AUAV. Think about it.take out uavs and then take out assassin.

  • Re: My list of OP and Obnoxious

    I don't think there's much in this game id classify as OP, but 3 things I'd classify as annoying

     

    1) Spawns- the spawn system is a mess. There were always questionable spawns in previous titles, but they were not nearly as constant as they are in MW3. I feel like I regularly spawn into gunfights, or directly in front of or behind an enemy

     

    2) Offensive death streaks- by that I mean DMH, Final Stand and Martydom. Rewarding a player with kills because they died several times in a row makes little to no sense.

     

    3) Offensive Support Streaks- again rewarding mediocrity with kills is just flat out dumb

  • Re: My list of OP and Obnoxious
    monkeylord

    Banish the MOAB it encourages to many kids to hide out in the bushes/boost chasing a number that means squat.

    Everything else in the game from the FMG sprayers to the Sun Tzu patrollers don't really matter they're what make COD it wouldn't be as much fun if everyone ran the same way.

    The "OP" weapons are there for thoese who just want a blast without worrying to much about having to reload, distance or aim (the ones who gets it's a game).

    Conversley you've got the weapons like the model and some of the pistols where you have to think about every shot(the ones who also get it's a game but wants people to owwww over their gun).

    Instead of looking at things as OP or UP look at them as a learning grade my missus first COD was MW3 she was an unashamed DMH user it brought in some awesome multi-kills and even swun a round in our favour more than once.

    What happend is the opposite of what most assume DMH didn't act as a crutch more as a boost after having a lousy run which if we're all honest have had more than once.

    Now because she survives longer she's switched out DMH for matyrdom and trying out other perks.

    My point is these things that are viewed as "noob" are needed for  very reason they are hated. They are there to help out the newer player who eventually gets to that stage where they die a lot less so arn't getting the reward anymore so need to step it up and take more risks perk wise.

    Even the FMG can defended if viewed as a tool for the newer player to learn how to clear a room up close.

    Sure all of these things can and are abused but as an introduction to the newer player are a god send.

    So it's not-over powered or under powered more for the newer player and for the player who knows the maps a bit better and room layouts.

    • Re: My list of OP and Obnoxious
      erikpemberton

      LOL @ "Sun Tzu patrollers", awesome description!

       

      I agree on the staging of weapons, equipment and perks. If I didn't get comfortable spraying & praying with the Striker, I wouldn't feel as comfortable trying to level up the KSG, etc. etc.

       

      As for Final Stand, Martyrdom, Dead Man's Hand, etc. - those often help turn the tide when I'm having a terribly shitty round, but I find more often than not that I use them strategically... i.e. if someone is really dug in somewhere, I'll rush them with all I got just so I can get close enough for the Martyrdom grenade to drop in their position. Strategically sacrificing myself when I'm already dying over and over again is sometimes just the crazy trick needed to bring things around again.

      • Re: My list of OP and Obnoxious
        monkeylord

        Yeah at the begining of any COD I eat a massive amount of deaths just learning the best routes and flows of a map in a certain mode on this COD it took me about 6 months to put up consistant positive KD. But everything else like my score and win rate are pretty decent.

        Although once you pick up the "higher" grade weapons and do well it's a buzz my last big challange is the model i've tried that gun and it's my personal achilles heel I have to be really relaxed to use that gun or my game goes to hell quick. If i'm not in the right mood and willing to shrug off hit markers the model will just frustrate me.

        I have to re-edit my grammer is really bad

         

        Message was edited by: monkeylord

        • Re: My list of OP and Obnoxious
          erikpemberton

          Yeah, same here. There's nothing quite as exhilirating as knowing exactly where to aim your Damage/Range KSG or Model and confidently firing a single shot and then running past their body to the next one rather than firing repeatedly because you're not sure if you're gonna kill 'em.

           

          Same for the stats, too. I started out doing horribly, but am now throwing up consistent numbers. KDR was 0.4 about a month or so ago and have worked it back up to 0.95 (without boosting or spawn killing, thankyouverymuch).

          • Re: My list of OP and Obnoxious
            monkeylord

            Yeah i've managed to drag it up to about 1.28 although it aint gonna get much higher lol.

            Gonna get the last couple of title for the subs then move onto the dreaded model KC will be intresting

            • Re: My list of OP and Obnoxious
              erikpemberton

              Enjoy your 1.28 while it lasts, leveling the Model will obliterate it! Hahaha

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                If you play it smart with the model it doesn't kill your KD. Unlike the other shotties you don't want head on confrontation, but rather you want to flank. I got the model up to Range before I got sick of it and found EC/Assasain/DS was a great perk combo for it

                • Re: My list of OP and Obnoxious
                  erikpemberton

                  That is a good combo, I"ll have to try that. Thanks!

                • Re: My list of OP and Obnoxious
                  monkeylord

                  DBL28 wrote:

                   

                  If you play it smart with the model it doesn't kill your KD. Unlike the other shotties you don't want head on confrontation, but rather you want to flank. I got the model up to Range before I got sick of it and found EC/Assasain/DS was a great perk combo for it

                  Yeah but the model is like my Eleanor of COD I know she's capable of great things but getting it to do great things however is a different matter.

                  I'll have to stick with my RP,AS,SA set up i'm big into flanking and making sure the spawns for our team are popping in at the right places. Keeps the kills high, deaths low and the wins steadily clocking up.

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                    I found steady aim didn't make a huge difference in terms of OHKs with the model, so I switched it out to something that helped me be less detectable. I think you'll find the same thing.

                    • Re: My list of OP and Obnoxious
                      monkeylord

                      Yeah I do value being off the map which is the better third perk for stealth? Bear in mind I move fast and only have semi decent earphones.

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                        Personal opinion but I'd say dead silence. I had TB P11s and didn't think SitRep Pro was that awesome until I got my triton ax pros. As far as stealth goes I'd say dead silence is the best simply because the enemy can't hear you and hearing them better is simply a side effect

                        • Re: My list of OP and Obnoxious
                          monkeylord

                          Does dead silence cancel out the knee breaking sound? Yeah I just got my mr's a pair of P11 a lot more wires than I expected then there was the day or so it took to realise you had to switch the micro-phone on through the ps3 setting to make the chat volume work. ~sigh~ I miss the good old days of the tape walkman just plug and play.

                          Although we are gonna invest in a pair of PX5 around christmas time. The mrs now swears by them already shes had thoese moments she got a spin drop on someone because she heard their footsteps.

              • Re: My list of OP and Obnoxious
                Sensou

                ROFLMAO! Yup!