44 Replies Latest reply: Dec 31, 2013 11:30 AM by KiNg-_ALoY RSS

Not alot of good perks in Black ops 2.

danielbondnz

I dont think the perk tiers look very balanced.

 

With SOH and steady aim not perks now but attachments, theres not alot of balancing perks along beside the likes of Ghost or dead silence.

 

I think alot of people wont use tier 2, as the only thing half good is scavenger. And tier 3 has Dead silence and aweaness, but nothing else attractive.

 

SOH and steady aim should have been perks, to make it a little harder to use the other powerful perks, right now im thinking most people will run Ghost and hardline from tier 1, and Dead silence from Tier 3. and many will forget teir 2. I may use scavenger and drop my secondary tho.

 

Stalker would have a been a nice balancer in their some where, but with Treyarch on the crusade toward being Battlefield, Stalker was considered to fun to include.

  • Re: Not alot of good perks in Black ops 2.

    Pointless thread, SoH and Steady Aim are not perks, and saying they should be is meaningless. And you are completely wrong about perk 2, cold blooded is going to be incredibly useful. It hides you from all the new fancy targeting scopes.

  • Re: Not alot of good perks in Black ops 2.
    Film_Not_Rated

    There are a good amount of perks.

     

    People like to rush, so the Tier2 and Tier 3 will be used alot, as King said CB is going to be very helpful, even more in SnD.

  • Re: Not alot of good perks in Black ops 2.
    nicedrewishfela

    Another negative thread.

  • Re: Not alot of good perks in Black ops 2.
    alexjt22

    I think changing the weapon perks into attachments is a great idea to balance the weapons, we may see a bit more diversity than the silencer & extended mag we see every match now in black Ops & MW3. Throwing SOH, Quickdraw, Steady Aim, Stalker, Kick, Range, deep impact and you could even say marksman(targer finder scope) as attachments is great and an impossible choice even with 3 attachments.

     

    It was a shame they didn't add a few new perks but with new perks becomes the unknown of balance, with them knowing each perk inside out and looking at data from previous games they know what needs to be done to get each perk balenced.

     

    I totally disagree that they arn't many good perks in the game tier 1 is stacked with flak jacket, lightweight, hardline as well as ghost with the no doubt UAV spam even if it is nerfed if you want to be stealthy it still a must and bad players will also need to wear blind eye with the good players again being forced to use air support rather than specialist - its a hard choice for every type of player, a wild card will defiantly need to be used on slot 1.

    Tier 2 isn't amazing but cold blooded looks very powerful and if you pimp your weapon out with 3 attachments you are gonna want to use scavenger. Fast hands and flinch might be good for certain weapons like snipers so the only real really weak one is hard wired which should be called soft wired because it looks so weak.

    Tier 3 is another hard choice with dead silence, awareness and engineer the real stand out with dexterity and extreme conditioning pushing them right close and even on par if using some weapons like shotties and SMGs, tac mask is the weakest in this category but i wouldn't say its totally useless.

    All in all I cannot see where your coming from

  • Re: Not alot of good perks in Black ops 2.
    danielbondnz

    Im not saying make it realistic, im saying the opposite, I want treyarch to stop tinkering with the arcade nature of this game.,

     

    Im convinced Treyarch are moving toward simulation slowly, as Treyarch listen to the community alot, but the bad thing is these forums are dominated by 40+ year old gamers who want everything that skilled players master taken out of the game.

     

    That age bracket and there wants are not what the vast majority of cod players not on this forum want. People like that need to start thinking if maybe battlefield 3 is more what they should be playing, instead of boring down the cod style. Also I dont think Treyarch have realised yet that the ''community'' is just a minority bunch of older gamers, and thats why Black ops one was popular on these forums, but unpopular among everyday players.

    • Re: Not alot of good perks in Black ops 2.

      did you just do a secret census or are you just pulling numbers out of your ass? Black Ops is the highest selling current gen game, its the most played current gen game of all time, it was not unpopular in the slightest.  Stop posting.

    • Re: Not alot of good perks in Black ops 2.
      nicedrewishfela

      Relax. You are making sweeping assumptions without having actually played the game. You are basing your opinions on an incomplete Alpha build and incomplete information.

       

      How many more perks could a player need? What else could they do to make this game work just for you? Maybe after November, you can hire them to build a game specifically designed for just you?

       

      I personally think they are going the correct route. I, for one, am excited for the possibilities the new system holds. I enjoy change, I enjoy innovation. I am going to withhold my judgment until I have played the game and decided for myself. Worst case scenario is, I am disappointed in the game. But I have no reason at this point to think that will be the case.

       

      Constructive conversation far outweighs negativity. You lose credibility when you claim to speak for the "community". You have no right to do so, you were not elected as their representative, nor do you have quantitative information proving that you know what the majority wants.

       

      If you want to share your ideas, please do so. All we've so far is a flood of negativity and baseless accusations of the devs trying to move the game towards "simulation". Otherwise, your points are completely invalid, and your complaints fall on deaf ears without a reasonable, rational thought process including ideas for what you would like to see and plausible rationale for the potential issues you are seeing.

  • Re: Not alot of good perks in Black ops 2.

    Actually Stalker is coming back as an attachment. See "Adjustable stock" http://www.gameranx.com/updates/id/8654/article/black-ops-2-attachment-descripti ons-and-stat-modifiers-outed/ .    #Themoreyouknow

  • Re: Not alot of good perks in Black ops 2.
    RenovaKunumaru

    I was a bit disappointed by the lack of pro perks in the game. I felt is if they gave you someone to work towards (besides the objective of course) . like in black ops when you had to get 20 kills within the radius of your motion sensor or jammer. I never used those equipment pieces before so it gave me a new way to play.

    • Re: Not alot of good perks in Black ops 2.
      xblbw

      Agreed. I randomly played Demolition on BO for 2 hrs yesterday to get Ninja Pro. The odd thing about that is that I don't play demolition and I don't use Ninja.

       

      Earnings pro-perks is the definition of "something-to-do".

       

      Edit: Also there is work and stuff around the house. But those things suck.

  • Re: Not alot of good perks in Black ops 2.
    rankismet

    danielbondnz wrote:

     

    I dont think the perk tiers look very balanced.

     

    With SOH and steady aim not perks now but attachments, theres not alot of balancing perks along beside the likes of Ghost or dead silence.

     

    I think alot of people wont use tier 2, as the only thing half good is scavenger. And tier 3 has Dead silence and aweaness, but nothing else attractive.

     

    SOH and steady aim should have been perks, to make it a little harder to use the other powerful perks, right now im thinking most people will run Ghost and hardline from tier 1, and Dead silence from Tier 3. and many will forget teir 2. I may use scavenger and drop my secondary tho.

     

    Stalker would have a been a nice balancer in their some where, but with Treyarch on the crusade toward being Battlefield, Stalker was considered to fun to include.

     

    First of all... it's "a lot".

     

    And you are making "a lot" of assumptions.

     

     

    It's a good thing to have perks that affect weapons be attachments... if you can't figure out a kit that works for you with 184,756 base options in the new CAC...

     

    ... you got issues.

  • Re: Not alot of good perks in Black ops 2.
    bigbluemonkey

    I can see what you mean. There's no really new perks that are inventive. But there's definitely some good choices. I mainly play FFA as well. I could myself using Lightweight, Fast Hands, and Dead Silence with Engineer.

     

    And BTW, stalker is in the game but only for Assault Rifles. In the form of adjustable stock

  • Re: Not alot of good perks in Black ops 2.
    xblbw

    I think the big absences (relative to MW3) are marksmen and recon.

     

    I also don't think the known perks list is complete.

     

    Haven't seen aything about holding your breath for longer.

     

    Coldblooded looks to me to be the new must have perk.

  • Re: Not alot of good perks in Black ops 2.

    I disagree. The Perk 2 slot has both Cold-Blooded and Toughness. I will being using both of those. It is the Perk 3 slot that I could care less about. But honestly it is all personal preference and gaming style.

  • Re: Not alot of good perks in Black ops 2.
    KiNg-_ALoY

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