30 Replies Latest reply: Mar 14, 2014 12:21 AM by like2nap03 RSS

How many of you still don't have Ghosts?

like2nap03

Cause you should definitely get it. It took me some time to figure it out.  It's a different beast.  Any crazy lag issues can be fixed with a router tweak or two.  There's less lag over all.  Better hit detection.  Better, larger,and more open map with no headglitching spots.  No OP weapons.  No OP aim assist.  The wiimote controls are better than they ever have been.  All the guns are balance differently then previous games and for the better.  SMGs and shotgutns need to be in CQC and they can dominate that space.  AR' and Marksman rifles are your mid to long range weapons.  LMGs and snipers are your long range weapons.  You're not going to be quickscope in CQC or get owne because of OP aim assist.  This game promotes gun skill.  Plain and simple.  Want more gun skill?  Turn of aim assist.  There you got more gunskill. 

 

They maps are huge but once you learn them you'll always know where the enemies are. I don't know how to describe it, but they finally got it right with Ghosts.  The hit dection, the controls, the maps, and even the extra game mode are a ton of fun like extinction and safeguard. 

 

If you ever want to see DLC then start supporting the new games.  Go buy Ghosts, learn how it flows, and you'll be beastin no time. 

 

Seriously if you don't have it pick it up.  Tell your friends too.  Let's support it so we can keep getting them.  And not just for that, but Ghosts is by far the best in the series.  Killstreaks have been nerfed and you have to be clever about where you put them. 


I wanted to write more but I'm really tired.  Ghosts is great and you should definitely get it on Wii U. 

  • Re: How many of you still don't have Ghosts?
    ThtGyNTheBckgrnd

    I still havent bought it. Why? There are a few reasons, but mainly, I dont want to waste money on it. Already, we know that support won't last much longer than March. The huge maps and the lack of ground war are unappealing.

    I had a great time playing BO2. As long as 1000-2000 people continue to play it, I will too.

    • Re: How many of you still don't have Ghosts?
      like2nap03

      The maps are one of the best things.  Once you learn them they are so great.  They really are.  They are OPEN.  You can go everywhere.  Support will end in March but that always happens.  The best part is there's barely anything wrong with it gameplay wise.  There's no OP guns, no gamebreaking glitches, the lag and hit detection are a noticeable improvement.  Everything is balanced well.  Event he killstreaks.  You gotta try it. 

       

      And if DLC is your thing then more people buying the game is the only chance of it.  It's only $40 on amazon right now.  Free shipping.  I'm telling ya they got this stuff right.  Map design, balance, hit detection.  A patch is coming for the spawns and to nerf one gun.  Nothing else is really broken.  I know there's  big list, but a lot of that has been fixed and none of it is gamebreaking.  Plus we're about to get a huge patch anyway.  Take the leap.  If we want to keep COD on Nintendo consoles we gotta start buying this game.  You won't regret it.

    • Re: How many of you still don't have Ghosts?
      slashnight13

      thinking about getting blacks ops 2, but how many players average are online?

  • Re: How many of you still don't have Ghosts?
    BobbyMcGee

    honestly i love it. dont get me wrong, there is some occasional lag due to poor matchmaking, but if this is the case, just leave the match in the first few seconds and find another, it wont punish your stats. generally if its gonna be a bad one i can tell the first two steps i take, so yeah, i have had a lot of fun with ghosts.

  • Re: How many of you still don't have Ghosts?
    LastShadowCOD

    I bought it - hated it.

     

    Too many issues - spawns, teleporting, players disappearing and reappearing, framing, etc.

     

    I tried it again after the last patch - didn't make a difference. I'll play it one more time after the next major revision - but it looks like there won't be another revision so that settles that.

     

    You can tell what's going on with this company - the suits are making decisions the programmers can't keep. Sorry, good software doesn't just happen - you can't FORCE it to happen on a schedule. It's ready, when it's ready and not a moment before.

    • Re: How many of you still don't have Ghosts?
      like2nap03

      Spawns are being fixed.  If you're having lag issues mess around with your router.  After every playlist update they change something with the connection and I have to adjust my router, but I've always been able to get the game to run smooth. The only time the lag is bad is when I host with players from other countries connected to me. 

       

      Any other time the game runs great.  Even when I do experience some lag, with the exception of the above scenario, the maps are big enough that I can flank everyone just fine. 

  • Re: How many of you still don't have Ghosts?
    darkfox2071

    1.no op aim assits, no op weapons? cough aim lock msbs wiimote cough that's a good one every single ar takes absolutely no skill to use, smg are weak even at cqb lmgs have tubes on them btw there's danger close riot shield double c4 and support streaks combine that on a objective gamemode it's impossible to defeat a team doind that plus you can have two squad teammates at once they pick up vest and their secondary is like a sniper

    2. good maps? you gotta be joking big and with unnecessary flanking routes, hiding spots especially designed for ppl to not move at all

    3. lag and hit detection are basically the same you just don't realize how bad it is because again high damage no recoil ars

    4. balanced streaks? nope specialist got a major nerf, assault is plain boring and simply countered by support and that shouldn't be the case why? because you shouldn't get rewarded for doing bad

    5. gunskill? doesn't matter I put on amplify and hear you from a mile away even if you have dead silence then pre fire you're dead

     

     

    I don't like been all negative but ghost is by far the worst cod to date they tried to copy bf so much and bf isn't a bad game but ghost just doesn't feel like cod you get rewarded for playing like a complete ***** ignoring the objective and if you play on a bad connection you'll get a lag shield.

     

    point is if you haven't bought ghost and you are thinking about buying it because you liked bo2 and the older games then don't because you will not like it only chance is if you like playing hide and seek

    • Re: How many of you still don't have Ghosts?
      like2nap03

      You don't like that stuff, but the game is balanced just fine.  Unless you're getting lagged SMGs will pwn ARs in CQC all day. So will shotguns.  You can just hipfire the SMGs and do it.  There's just not a lot of CQC out there.   Yes it has danger close.  It also costs 4 points to use.  LMGs have tubes.  Why does that matter?  It's not like tubes are OP and everyone is running around dominating with them. 

       

      The maps being that large an open is brilliant.  It allows you flank routes to any campers.  In order to hold down all those routes you need team work.  That's what it's designed for.  People hide and camp regardless.  You just have to learn where they are.  All you have to do is check your corners.

       

      MSBS being OP is debatable, but it's getting nerfed anyway.  It's not like you see everyone running around and dominating with it like akimbo FMGs or something.  Hardly anyone uses that gun anyway.  Nothing more than the occasional death for me. 

       

      Amplify is effective but no one is dominating matches because of it.  It may work well when nothing is going on, but you can pretty much never hear a DS user during a hectic match until they are right on top of you.  And instead of running around that corner they could just crouch walk and you'll never hear them.  And if you don't think that is balance well DS is getting a buff so there you go.

       

      I don't find assault boring at all.  I love the trinity rocket and the helo pilot.  Heck even the battlehind is pretty good.  Gryphon is good too.  Support counters the airborne assault streaks, but I'd prefer a player get a bunch of kills to earn the right to shoot down my chopper instead of just switching to a launcher.  How is that not better?  They have to earn the right to shoot down your chopper instead of just switching weapons.  They also HAVE to be running air superiority to guarantee they can take it out.  I haven't had a helo pilot shot down yet.  It's really not bad at all when you stop and think about what you're saying.  I mean it sounds bad when you say "assault is countered by support", but break down what that means and it's really better than it ever was. 

      • Re: How many of you still don't have Ghosts?
        WiimotesRus02

        Everybody should go to the ghost forums and you'll see plenty of reasons why you shouldn't waste your money.

        I appreciate naps efforts to increase the player base, but this isn't the game to promote.

        If you do get it, there are plenty of 2nd hand copies, no point in coughing up full price when support has either already finished, or if by some miracle we do get this next patch, all support will end next month. But in all honesty, I don't believe we'll get the patch ATU mentioned recently, so buy 2nd hand..

        • Re: How many of you still don't have Ghosts?
          BobbyMcGee

          lmao!!! i play multi, safeguard and extinction every day, its hardly been a waste of my money. thats 20 bucks per mode and i play and enjoy all three daily. im sure that the price of ghost has dropped some too, so lets say 15 bucks per game mode.

          • Re: How many of you still don't have Ghosts?
            WiimotesRus02

            BobbyMcGee wrote:

             

            lmao!!! i play multi, safeguard and extinction every day, its hardly been a waste of my money. thats 20 bucks per mode and i play and enjoy all three daily. im sure that the price of ghost has dropped some too, so lets say 15 bucks per game mode.

            Because you live on the servers doorstep, (and you enjoy mediocre games) it plays ok for you. For those of us that grew up with different standards and enjoy well made items, and for the majority of players, it plays like a broken piece of rubbish.

            Seriously Bobby, I know your weather is bad over there, but you need to get out more

      • Re: How many of you still don't have Ghosts?
        darkfox2071

        Are you a tdm only player? seems like since you haven't been on the other side of someone using shields, c4 and tubes blast shield doesn't even protect you neither a trophy system.

         

        I didn't say msbs was op it is op with a wiimote because of the aimlock just like some ars and some marksman rifles because of the aimlock.

        amplify not dominant? it is I use it every time and dominate lobbies  as for the buff to ds that's great it actually becomes a viable option now

        assault streaks are broken the trinity rocket has a glitch where it just launches randomnly, battle hind good? nope I use it and get 4 kills the most of the time the only really  good assault streaks are the helo and the dog. Yes they do need those kills or points like what 12 kills or 12 points in objective modes?  to earn support streaks that's absolutely nothing anyone can get it and that's why there's a problem you might say yes anyone can have a launcher class too but the fact that they have to give up a secondary weapon and actually aim at me while I can see them on my streakx makes a big difference. I rarely got shot down of a lodestar but when I use the helo boom air superiority locks on you, you try using your flares ( two of them) and that's it you're down and if they have a maaws it's even easier again all of this doesn't apply to you if you only play teamdeathmatch which is fine

         

        ars do beat smgs at cqb pretty easily no recoil and high damage? hello the only smg that can compete against ars is the mtar

         

        open maps plus stealth perks and incredibly strong awareness perks people DO NOT have to move they will just place themselves on a power position and rotate between angles that is not a brilliant idea at all maps should be simple and balanced for both sides like most of BO1 & BO2 maps were

         

        edited: English is not my native language so as IWATA would say "please understand"

        • Re: How many of you still don't have Ghosts?
          like2nap03

          MSBS is hardly OP and got nerfed anyway.  Pretty sure we got that one, but we don't have the full patch notes so I haven't confirmed.  I mean I'm playing the same game and I've never been dominated by an MSBS users regardless of controller.  Or anyone for that matter.  I did learn about the C4 Shield combo.  That got patched on the other consoles.  Don't know if we get it.  And yes, I mostly play TDM.  It's the only viable option at 2:00am unfortunately.  So yeah,  I don't have all of your issues.

           

          The maps are a rusher's dream though.  At least in TDM.  Again, no one plays the other modes so I don't either that late at night.  But taking out campers in TDM is easy.  All they do is feed my killstreaks.  I only had one of my MANY helo pilots shot down and that's because I didn't know it had flares.      Anyway, back to the maps.  All you need to rush is dead silence and sitrep. Campers can't hear you and the equipment gives away their position.  Plus these maps are open with many flank routes.  All campers do is feed my killstreaks.  It's very rare that I don't know where someone is.  Even if I can't find them I will just sprint around to draw fire and make them give away their position.  I might die a time or two but once I find them and kill them that's it.  I'll control the match from that point on.

           

          I'll put it this way too.  If we want to keep playing COD on Nintendo consoles we need to buy Ghosts.  COD isn't selling well and if it keeps up we will stop getting these games.

           

          SMGs top ARs in CQC.  I'll stand by that all day.  Unless lag is involved, or the other player is just better, then I should win that engagement.   You have to know the ranges of the weapons though.  The times to kill for SMGs are faster in their maximum damage ranges.  The problem is some of them have VERY small ranges.  Which means you're dead from any kind of distance.  Some of the ranges are very low, but agility plus quickdraw (don't use stalker with an SMG.)  Means you can dominate in close ranges.  You just have to be careful and stay in certain parts of the map because those ranges are small.  Trust me. I've done it.  It's far from impossible.

           

          For you wiimote users:  If you want to keep playing new games with a wii remote then buy Ghosts.  Seriously.  It's not nearly as bad as people make it out to be.  You just have to learn that you can't play it like BLOPS 2 or past games.  Your strategies have to be different because the maps and weapons are different.  Ghosts is $39.99 on Amazon right now.  $20 cheaper than launch.   It's worth it.  Get it if you want the series, and your controls, to continue on this console.

  • Re: How many of you still don't have Ghosts?
    BobbyMcGee

    the maps are basically the same as blop1, and if youre complaining about spawns it because your team is making them go wild.

    • Re: How many of you still don't have Ghosts?
      BobbyMcGee

      to be clear that comment wasnt directed at nap. im also confused by people who dont like amplify etc. you have two senses in cod yes? sight and sound. nerfing or removing that seems stupid in my opinion. and the volume levels this title are MUCH lower than blops2. i can hear people reloading their weapons halfway across the map on raid...

      • Re: How many of you still don't have Ghosts?
        like2nap03

        BobbyMcGee wrote:

         

        to be clear that comment wasnt directed at nap. im also confused by people who dont like amplify etc. you have two senses in cod yes? sight and sound. nerfing or removing that seems stupid in my opinion. and the volume levels this title are MUCH lower than blops2. i can hear people reloading their weapons halfway across the map on raid...

        This is the first time that I think they actually got the sound perks balanced right.  I can barely hear DS users when I got Amplify.  Sometimes I can react fast enough to get the kill.  Sometimes I can't.  Balanced pretty well. 

    • Re: How many of you still don't have Ghosts?
      WiimotesRus02

      BobbyMcGee wrote:

      and if youre complaining about spawns it because your team is making them go wild.

      Yeah that would be it lol, So you're telling me that even with the players all over the map, and the size of the maps, they can't spawn you somewhere safe? Man, next time I spawn 3 times in a row at the back of freight right next to an enemy in a sniper suit, so close he can stab me, I'll make sure I'll shout and complain at my team mates. Wtf are you saying Bobby?

      • Re: How many of you still don't have Ghosts?
        BobbyMcGee

        i am saying it is TEAM DEATHMATCH, and if your TEAM is running wild over the entire map, the spawns will be completely unpredictable, and if you dont use amplify because of idiots who have poor tactics then you wont even hear the hammer click before a bullet flies through your head. it took me all of a few weeks to figure that out.

  • Re: How many of you still don't have Ghosts?
    ThtGyNTheBckgrnd

    Well I gave in, I bought it.