What is an Average K/D ratio?

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What is an Average K/D ratio?

What is considered an average K/D ratio?

    I have been wondering ever since I bought this game in the series (first one for me), and especially after I jumped outta boot camp, why people were always talking about the average to be 1.5+ K/D in a team DeathMatch eliminating all the noobs (me, partially) and the clueless, but usually for three out of six on every team usually have a K/D of less than 1.00. I have only played a few dozen games so far mostly in the DeathMatch category, however I have trouble deciding about if I'm currently just below average, the regular semi-noob, or a long trek away from being an adequate player. Is it really that the top few members in every DeathMatch are pretty much pros with 15, 16 kills, and just 4 or 5 deaths having half of their kills on noobs, or am I just not counting correctly? I know for a fact the absolute average has to be slightly under 1.00, counting suicides, because for every one kill there has to be one death. Thank you for those replying to this, a few tips would also be good to my fresh experience.

     Attention: I have several things posted down below that I have realized after several minutes of free time. It took logic though, but the majority of the people saying that points and W/L matter more is a good sign for fun.


     Update: There might have been confusions about the total kills per deaths, and how everyone's complete kills/deaths equals 1.00 excluding suicides of every single person altogether. I am talking about a K/D ratio on the MEDIAN (50th percentile), not the actual average of a K/D ratio (those at 80% will affect the average more than one at the 20%). When you look at it that way, it should make sense.

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Re: What is an Average K/D ratio?

in reply to KillSift90

This is spot on. Mathematically, it has to be 1.00 without suicides.   Now mean, Median, and mode would alter slightly.

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Re: What is an Average K/D ratio?

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KillSift90 wrote:

I know for a fact the absolute average has to be slightly under 1.00, counting suicides, because for every one kill there has to be one death.

You answered your own question.

As far as where most "good" players lie, the answer is that it doesn't really matter.  Pub-stompers, who just go into regular lobbies and repeatedly massacre players much less skilled then they are, often maintain k/d ratios above 3.  Top pros, who usually play against each other, probably wouldn't even be able to tell you what their own k/d was but most would hover in the 0.8-1.2 range.  What game mode you usually play has a huge impact on your k/d, as well.

Biggest tip: just ignore that statistic, or at least don't consider it an indicator of how well a person plays.  Also, as a beginning player I'd highly recommend that you try modes other than TDM while you figure out the game; Domination is a great game type for beginners, as you can have an absolutely horrible k/d but still help your team to win by capturing and defending the objective flags.  Plus, since you get more points for those activities, it will allow you to earn scorestreaks more often (which always makes the game more fun).

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Re: What is an Average K/D ratio?

in reply to Harv72

This somewhat reminds me of high school when teachers would implore the kids to learn the material and not simply memorize for a test to get a good grade. Didn't work.

It seems regardless of how much you try to implore that KDR isn't a factor and shouldn't matter, it's there; and it's by far the most important thing to the majority of players. Like back in school after the test when kids would ask "What'd you get? What'd you get? I got an A!" it's the same with KDR. "What's your KDR? What's your KDR???"

So many factors that just don't matter; I was damn proud I had 6 plants on demolition last night because no one else had a single one. My KD? Something like 27 and 52. *shrug* Oh well, I got the win, and pretty much by myself. Some other stud went 70-20. Zero plants, zero defends. Wow.

Edited for stupid auto-correct.

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Re: What is an Average K/D ratio?

in reply to Harv72

Dude i completely agree with you dude because I was in a Pub-Stomp Clan in black Ops 1 and went from a 2.0KD to a 2.53.  My original WL was 1.90 which is now 3.10 in my Black Ops 1 account.

So there really isn't skill involved as an individual but its show great teamwork and map knowledge for sure.

If i had to give a general Average K/D it to determine if your Borderline average would be a range from

  • 80 - 1.20 = borderline average
  • 1.30 - 1.80 = above average
  • 1.90 - 2.20 = TryHard style which is a good thing

This is just my view to the game and that's not to say its factual but for the sake of expressing an debatable OPINION these are my insights to your very well put together POST.

I hope you find this overview general and helpful

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Re: What is an Average K/D ratio?

in reply to Freddy_Hardcore

lol no

1.9 to 2.2 is not tryhard thats easy as hell

more like legit running around no camp or boost 5+ is tryhard

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Re: What is an Average K/D ratio?

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What about spm

and the fun factor. Especially the fun factor

Roll the dice. Life is a gamble
GRaS is OP. SaND get's everywhere
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Re: What is an Average K/D ratio?

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The fun factor en very, VERY important (look at me i've got a 0.87 KD but the game is SO MUCH FUN)

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Re: What is an Average K/D ratio?

in reply to KillSift90

Statistically, people think that an average KDR should be around 1.0 given that for every Kill, there's a death. But people are looking at the equation all wrong. They're assuming total kills and total deaths, without regard for who those kills are attributed to. By that I mean, let's take this scenario for 5 people, all in the same match playing a FFA:

Player 1 - 30 Kills - 11 Deaths - 2.72 Ratio

Player 2 - 28 Kills - 15 Deaths - 1.86 Ratio

Player 3 - 16 Kills - 19 Deaths - 0.84 Ratio

Player 4 - 10 Kills - 22 Deaths - 0.45 Ratio

Player 5 - 3 Kills - 20 Deaths - 0.15 Ratio

Now, statistically, there's 1 death per kill. But the average ratio doesn't add up to 1.0. If you get the average of all their K/D Ratios, it comes out to about 1.20. So you can see how the average ratio isn't as simple as just adding up all the kills and deaths in the game. The average K/D for that match turned out to be 1.20 despite an even number of kills and deaths.

So, what is the average K/D? It's really hard to say actually. You'd have to get a large sampling of players, from all skill levels and average it out from there.

On a personal level, I aim for roughly 1.5 as a K/D. Whether that's "Good" or not is subjective, but for me it works since I'm largely and Objective player. I don't need to pull an average of a 2-3 K/D for a match since I'm more focused on capping and defending flags. So if I want to say that I had a good match, I would say 1.5 K/D with active objective participation qualifies for me.

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Re: What is an Average K/D ratio?

in reply to kastro187420

That's a very good point. However, I just wanted to add that by 'absolute average' I sort of meant the 1-1 kill/death factor, not an individual's 'absolute average'. True, you take a 30/1 and a 1/30, you come up with 30.00 K/D and 0.03 K/D, which unless my math is wrong averages at 15.015, showing up at 15.02.

Now, excuse me for being somewhat geeky, but you're right about the individual average to be maybe 1.1 to 1.2 K/D. But then, the median, (pros get like 4-5 K/D and new people get way under .80) is probably somewhere around 1.00. I would say your answer is very helpful to my question even if everyone's opinion is slightly different, so thanks.

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