Let's face it this game isn't even close to the standards of the previous games. You no longer have to use any logic or even think about where to go, you just run around like headless chicken, kill half a dozen people then get shot in the back.
This game has become such a typical "mindless" arcade shooter that you no longer have to put any thought into what you're doing. By the end of the day the game becomes very "same same" after 3 games.
We need camping to return to what it was in all previous CoDs because this game sucks. It really does suck, you cannot "Catch your breath" anymore.
The maps are all really awfully designed, they are small, cramped, SMG friendly and are down right shit. MW3 had small maps but these maps take the fudging cake.
Remember all the old maps form CoD4, WAW, MW2, BO1? They were designed for every playstyle, you could camp, snipe, run and gun, lock down, tacticl. It had something for everyone. I loved sitting with my sniper on wasteland (mw2 map) and hearing people rage as my 50 cal bullet went through the heads of my enemies. It was fun...
Now in black ops sniping isn't rewarding, basically the first sniper, the one unlocked by default is an assault rife almost, it doesn't reward precision and the other sniper riles are rarely used. Sniping doesn't reward precision in this game. And since you cannot use the aid of the ghost perk, snipers are severely at a disadvantage with all the SMG gun nuts.
Camping while doable isn't very fun as you are guaranteed to be killed.
Hardcore is hell now as you spawn, kill one guy and you have a guy spawning behind you and killing you within a matter of seconds.
Everyone says they wanted hardcore camping removed well congrats, its been removed. Shame they took about 4 other playstyles that needed a degree of camping to be effective.
CoD is in a way supposed to be universal, look at the older games. Now look at what it has become...
cod has always been a mindless arcade shooter, where do you people keep getting this idea that it wasn't
campers get killed, that's a good thing
lol, the other snipers are rarely used? pretty much all of the other snipers are used more than the svu, especially the dsr
If you played CoD4, WAW and MW2 and BO1 you'd know what while it always was an arcade shooter it did have some degree of thought put into it.
I was mostly using my experiance from hardcore on that one because I only play core the DSR is used on Core but it is used more like a battle rifle because you have people attempting to quick scope you oh so often.
You are obviously a newbie, MW4? I've played since CoD2 online and yes, what the OP is talking about has changed dramatically. It's way more chaotic with 1 group of weapons being favored because of map design. People will say, "there are tons of big maps". Well, try long sight lines in those "Big" maps. Very few and far between. I've heard people say that camping is out of control in this installment. Just throw on your SMG, engineer and EMP grenades and boom, no camper is safe. This is a lob sided installment of CoD but hey, I guess they tried something new even if I think it's not true CoD. Others will have there opinions too, I'm sure.
That's what happens when campers ruin the past game. Treyarch doesn't want you to camp. Get some skill and run and gun for once. Camping takes NO skill at all. Now we got a NEW form of camping from the worm. ( He's hurting Black Ops 2 more than helping ). Maybe if more people play the game the right way than they would bring back some of those camping spots you guys like.
~THE NOOB KILLER
I love it when "skill" is thrown into a video game. Funny. Like run and gun takes as you call it "skill". Yeah right. Run and hip fire at the first sight of an enemy, yeah thats "skill". Again, funny.
I know what the OP means. I dusted off COD4 a couple days ago and played it. That was the most fun I had playinga COD in a very long time. This game does become very repetitive. I have toned down alot in playing the game, maybe just on Friday nights after a few beers, for a few hours thats about it. Got a little burnt out on the whole COD thing. Besides its becoming a kiddie game at that. Keep the kids busy, keeps the parents happy.
yeah im going to have to agree with you here, i play defensively, so naturally i get called a "camper" which i dont, but because im not runninga round corners blindly and getting killed and actually haveing an awesome KD i get flamed for tactical game play..
here is what I have learned...
I can run and gun.. its not hard, hip fire with lazer sight.. pretty easy
defensive playing is harder, you have to predict where enemys are gonna pop up who are already looking for you oppose to you looking for them
ive done it all and id say im pretty good at both styles of play, and it doesnt matter how you play, you are everything but GOOD to other players.. ie. camper, hacker, modder, sound whore, *name calling*, but never "GOOD"
so play how you want
What is the "right way to play"
Call of Duty has always been a "decide how you want to play" game. If I wanted to be dictated too I'd play another game. CoD has a key "roleplaying" element in it. Building your class, if you build your class as an SMG you have elements an SMG has over say, a sniper build.
You talk about "get some skill"
Oh yes, spawning behind the enemy and shooting them in the back, oh yeah, tons of skill required. Getting spawned next to the guy who just killed me, oh yeah, it really made made me work for that revenge kill.
This game requires no skill, the previous CoD did, as if you faced someone who was sniping you didn't get spawned behind him, you got spawned in a safe location and you had to plan how to take that sniper out. (this is just an example)
But yeah, like you said, you need skill in this game, I mean it must take some real skill to kill a guy when you spawn by running around a corner and killing him as he just killed you.
Yeah skill is big in this game.
I hope you noticed I tried to make the skill part of this game as sarcastic as possible.
Play the game the right way? I lol'd. Sniping is a type of gameplay and so called 'camping' is doing it the right way. Do you know how many people are ticked off with the quick scopers in this game? Imagine a whole lobby of ALL quick scopers.. That would be worse than a lobby with all shotguns!
With all the disadvantages of snipers in this game how could say it takes no skill to hold down one area? Whatever your response is will make no sense to me cuz you play the game differently, you see the maps differently than I do.