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Whoa! Maybe we should get off this topic! Ummmmm.......... Anyone here like the steady aim perk?
Slayboy802
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Watch Zeitgeist : Addendum, explains a lot, although you cant take everything as pure gold it really cleared my vision.
Grazloq
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The_Redfinned_One wrote:

 

Whoa! Maybe we should get off this topic! Ummmmm.......... Anyone here like the steady aim perk?





This dude is right, just like greed being a negitive human thing, so is the human way of thinking im right your wrong.



i think steady aim is meh
cod009
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kweagle wrote:

 

dat4co wrote:

 

kweagle wrote:

 

I already did. They are full of benefits, and, when managed properly, have no disadvantages.





haha, when managed properly??? Making a socialist government is just asking for taxes, your paying for someone elses benefits along with your own! Bill gates would never have been as successful as he is today if the U.S. was completely socialist.







And that is a bad thing how??/ I guess your right, why should everyone be entitled to equal healthcare and education, right???



Bill gates could have been just as successful in a socialist society, he just would not have billions of dollars behind him to do whatever he wants with. The problem with capitalism, is that the government is not in control of anything, the corporations are. And the corporations do not have the best interests of the people in mind, only their own. If you do not believe that, you need to wake up and smell the coffee.





I just gotta laugh. Do you honestly think that governments have the best interests of their people in mind. The best government is the one that allows the people the most freedom with the least intrusion into private matters. Everyone should have the opportunity for education and healthcare but not the right. Why shoud those who produce be forced to pay for the healthcare of those who refuse to produce. In a truly fair society everyone is given the opporunity and their results are dictated by their actions if someone chooses to be lazy it is not the responsibility of everyone else to drag them along although in most cases they CHOOSE to do so anyways. It is only when people are forced to take care of lazy people do they have a problem with it. You can see how socialism has wrecked much of Europe, people rioting in the streets because they have to wait a couple more years retire. They never once think that if they have their way their government will collapse and no-one will have retirement benifits. The whole concept baffles me. Why should I work my but off, put all of my assets at risk so that when it works out I get taxed 30-40%? Meanwhile some dead beat takes no risks (heck they won't even risk getting up off the couch) but benifits from my risk taking. This is what is screwed up about our America, not that the poor aren't given enough but that they are given too much.
godsmack_theori
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Properly run government would have the best interest of the people in their mind. Of course, this goes back to the fundamental problem with humanity. People care only about what is best for themselves, not the population as a whole. This is why all current governments fail, because the people who run them themselves are flawed.



i do not understand how you can say that everyone should not have the right to equal healthcare and education. If these two things alone were made equally available to everyone (not based on how much money you have), there is no question that the economy and society as a whole would benefit. The lack of proper health care is responsible for many economic costs that society is faced with now. I really dont see how someone who has money has anymore right to cancer removed than anyone else.



Capitalist Governments have little to no control over anything that is happening. People are being given a false sense of democracy. Corporations make the decisions, not the governments, and that is not what a democracy is supposed to be all about.



The best government is the one gives the most freedom to the people, but also takes care of the needs of the society as a whole. There is nothing that says if you work hard, you are not entitled to more. But consider this. What if you have worked hard all your life, you are doing very well for yourself, and then you are diagnosed with a disease that requires you to give up your entire life savings just so you can afford to have the drugs so you can live. Is that fair? This is a classic example of the problem with capitalism. The drugs you need do not cost anywhere even close to what you have to pay for them. There is no reason why a drug company should be privately owned and making billions and billions of dollars off of sick people. If it were government run and controlled, these same drugs could be made available at a fraction of the price. It is already happening in the world today. You can be in one country where a pill may cost hundreds of dollars, while in another country the exact same pill costs a few dollars. There is no excuse for anyone to profit off the illnesses of others.
kweagle
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... I feel I should have named the thread "Comunism vs Socialism whats better?" Jeeze!

A shame the report button doesn't works for me so this gets deleted since all it brought was a flame war of diferent political ideas.
BooMRockS
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i see no flame war, i see a collective discussion about different opinions.
kweagle
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My point is, this went totally OFF-Topic
BooMRockS
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@Kweagle, my point is that people don't have the right to anything they haven't earned. The founding fathers of America in their brilliance kept the bill of rights small. We all have the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness without government intrusion. The bill of rights clearly states that in order for the government of the US to work it must have limited power, power that comes from the people. The rights outlined in the constituion are God given rights. Rights that we are born with not rights given to us by a governing body. The power comes from and must stay with the people.



One of the reasons for the economic collapse in the US was the mandate that everyone deserves a home. Well what happened? People who were bad risks were given loans for homes that they couldn't pay for or had show a history of not being willing to pay for. It is easy to point the finger at wallstreet and corporations but whatever happened to personal responsibility? It is not my responsibility to take care of someone who is unwilling to take care of themselves. Also the government cannot give to one citizen until it first takes from another citizen. The government and democrats in particular think they are doing a favor or giving us our money back when they cut taxes. The reality is that they are stealling our money through an unfair tax system that coddles the people who produce the least and punishes those that produce the most. Why should a college student who worked parttime but payed nothing in get thousands back at the end of the year? How about the family of five who pay in nothing but get thousands back at the end ofthe year. I have no problem with them paying no taxes but why should the government subsidize these people? How about the farmer who is paid not to farm his land? Or the alternative fuel people who wouldn't make any money if not subsidized by the govenment? How about the govenment subsidizing of the construction unions by forcing the payment of prevailing wages? I could go on and on. The government has a lousy track record of doing what is best for the society as a whole.
godsmack_theori
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kweagle wrote:

 

dat4co wrote:

 

kweagle wrote:

 

I already did. They are full of benefits, and, when managed properly, have no disadvantages.





haha, when managed properly??? Making a socialist government is just asking for taxes, your paying for someone elses benefits along with your own! Bill gates would never have been as successful as he is today if the U.S. was completely socialist.







And that is a bad thing how??/ I guess your right, why should everyone be entitled to equal healthcare and education, right???



Bill gates could have been just as successful in a socialist society, he just would not have billions of dollars behind him to do whatever he wants with. The problem with capitalism, is that the government is not in control of anything, the corporations are. And the corporations do not have the best interests of the people in mind, only their own. If you do not believe that, you need to wake up and smell the coffee.





No, why should a family who is succeeding have to pay for anothers families healthcare when the family that is being paid has no job? I dont think that it is fair that a family is is thriving in society has to pick up the slack for another family who is not thriving in society.



And yes you said it yourself, Bill gates wouldnt of had billions of dollars because he is resictred to a certain limit. Why? Because he has to pay for other people's wellfare, healthcare, etc. Wellfare is not a bad thing but people stay on it forever and take advantage of it instead of being ambitious and getting a job. While in a capitalist government, it encourages getting a job and doesnt put a cap on how much you can succeed. Both Capitalism and Socialism have thier ups and downs. I prefer capitalism while you prefer socialism, and that is alright because everyone has thier differant opinions.



Btw, whoever says this a flame war, well that is not true
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