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@St0newa11 wrote:

But in all seriousness. All you have done is complained about copy this and copy that....
You point out things that are easily explainable and you just throw it under the bus and assume it's lazy this and lazy that. You have provided nothing really... Just nothing. 

You are only atm leading this bandwagon of lazy that, people who just agree with you and point out the same easily explained stuff like you do but you don't wanna hear it and you throw it under... 

 

We know so little about why things were changed in this bo4, and everyone is just jumping to their own bull***** assumptions.

 

It is honestly pathetic and probably the lowest I have seen the community jump to. 


Assumptions are based more on how this Franchise had done things in the past with their cryptic message and lack of information. WW2 with the 9 maps not disclosed until after launch is a perfect example of this. All I am doing is pointing out the flaws I have seen, you dont' have to agree with them. 

As far as knowing little about why things are changed, thats not true. I have said it numerouis times, these guys have very little creativity, they are lazy and just at this point copying other games and studios. If they don't want us to assume, there is really easy solution, disclose and stop over hyping.

The only thing pathetic is your constant complaining about other peoples threads and comments. 


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@MurkBeserk wrote:

@St0newa11 wrote:

But in all seriousness. All you have done is complained about copy this and copy that....
You point out things that are easily explainable and you just throw it under the bus and assume it's lazy this and lazy that. You have provided nothing really... Just nothing. 

You are only atm leading this bandwagon of lazy that, people who just agree with you and point out the same easily explained stuff like you do but you don't wanna hear it and you throw it under... 

 

We know so little about why things were changed in this bo4, and everyone is just jumping to their own bull***** assumptions.

 

It is honestly pathetic and probably the lowest I have seen the community jump to. 


Assumptions are based more on how this Franchise had done things in the past with their cryptic message and lack of information. WW2 with the 9 maps not disclosed until after launch is a perfect example of this. All I am doing is pointing out the flaws I have seen, you dont' have to agree with them. 

As far as knowing little about why things are changed, thats not true. I have said it numerouis times, these guys have very little creativity, they are lazy and just at this point copying other games and studios. If they don't want us to assume, there is really easy solution, disclose and stop over hyping.

The only thing pathetic is your constant complaining about other peoples threads and comments. 



You are getting these things from other companies, Not Treyarch though...... Treyarch hasn't let us down yet....

That is your opinion on creativity.... your opinion on lazy.... Everyone else copied from other games.... Not sure why Bo4 has to get so much ***** for it lol.....
Overwatch is bascially a TF2 and a Moba Copied.
Siege is basically battlefield destruction and CSGO. Copied


Big difference is that these games weren't apart of a long time standing series. You had rainbow six, but siege is just a completely different game.

Cod is trying to change but remain cod... This is difficult and I can't believe they are being called out for it. lol

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@St0newa11 wrote:

That is your opinion on creativity.... your opinion on lazy....


Yes, this is my opinion. It's what you do on forums, you provide opinions based on information provided a personal experience. Not sure why you would point out something so obvious. LOL!

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@MurkBeserk wrote:

@St0newa11 wrote:

That is your opinion on creativity.... your opinion on lazy....


Yes, this is my opinion. It's what you do on forums, you provide opinions based on information provided a personal experience. Not sure why you would point out something so obvious. LOL!


was just making sure that you understood that everything you are saying isn't 100% correct and is actually just opinions based on speculation and assumptions.

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@MurkBeserk wrote:

@St0newa11 wrote:

That is your opinion on creativity.... your opinion on lazy....


Yes, this is my opinion. It's what you do on forums, you provide opinions based on information provided a personal experience. Not sure why you would point out something so obvious. LOL!


was just making sure that you understood that everything you are saying isn't 100% correct and is actually just opinions based on speculation and assumptions.


Unlike you, I understand the difference between a fact and a personal opinion. it is a fact that there has been only 10 specialist disclosed at the time of me writing those opinions. It is my opinion that they are lazy because they are only providing 10 specialist many of which were very much a copy and paste from BO3. Opinion is valid even if you disagree since there has been very little done considering the time period of 3 years to develope these specialist. I state these opinions in hopes that someone will see them and/or others will acknowledge them and maybe, just maybe 3arch will let us know that we can expect more specialist espcially since we are forced to only one per team.

My opinions and my assumptions are based off of previous habits of this franchise so in truth, they are opinions that have way more validity than anything you have provided unless you can provide evidence that there are more specialists that will be in this game. Even if they do add them at this time, nothing has been found to expecting them to add more later except for some very vague claims about replayablity.

The slogan they are currently using is basically a lie "Forget Everthing you Know" since outside of a few tweaks of health, damage and scoring as well as thrusters, this is BO3 with slightly different set of specialists. So as of now, my opinions are backed by far more facts than you have to assume things will change in a big way over the next several months.

See, if they do add more, than I am good with that and I am fine with being wrong about their intent. However, if I am right, you just come across looking like a foolish and niave little fan boy.


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@MurkBeserk wrote:

@St0newa11 wrote:

@MurkBeserk wrote:

@St0newa11 wrote:

That is your opinion on creativity.... your opinion on lazy....


Yes, this is my opinion. It's what you do on forums, you provide opinions based on information provided a personal experience. Not sure why you would point out something so obvious. LOL!


was just making sure that you understood that everything you are saying isn't 100% correct and is actually just opinions based on speculation and assumptions.


Unlike you, I understand the difference between a fact and a personal opinion. it is a fact that there has been only 10 specialist disclosed at the time of me writing those opinions. It is my opinion that they are lazy because they are only providing 10 specialist many of which were very much a copy and paste from BO3. Opinion is valid even if you disagree since there has been very little done considering the time period of 3 years to develope these specialist. I state these opinions in hopes that someone will see them and/or others will acknowledge them and maybe, just maybe 3arch will let us know that we can expect more specialist espcially since we are forced to only one per team.

My opinions and my assumptions are based off of previous habits of this franchise so in truth, they are opinions that have way more validity than anything you have provided unless you can provide evidence that there are more specialists that will be in this game. Even if they do add them at this time, nothing has been found to expecting them to add more later except for some very vague claims about replayablity.

The slogan they are currently using is basically a lie "Forget Everthing you Know" since outside of a few tweaks of health, damage and scoring as well as thrusters, this is BO3 with slightly different set of specialists. So as of now, my opinions are backed by far more facts than you have to assume things will change in a big way over the next several months.

See, if they do add more, than I am good with that and I am fine with being wrong about their intent. However, if I am right, you just come across looking like a foolish and niave little fan boy.



Scale of 1 to even I can't anymore man. This topic literally is just going in a circle. Was decent discussing it with you but I just don't have the want to go on. All things aside you call it out on the franchise and not these devs. I think the Black ops team can do this well and will add more specialists during the next few years.... I canot fathom why they would not want to add more considering what they are going for which is a more OW/Siege thing which clearly follows the formual of adding more heroes to their game. So to jump on them because there are only 10 heroes in a 5v5 game... Kinda seems silly to me... Even if you let everyone else pick first, there are 6 specialists  for you to choose from... That is A okay with me and I don't doubt that Treyach (not Activision) would add more specialists in the up coming months of this year. 

 

I will say I see your opinions and points, but you type them out like it's fact. You drive off the franchise and not the developers. I think Treyarch will do this right.  You win I lose. I just can't care anymore about something so silly.

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@St0newa11 wrote:


Scale of 1 to even I can't anymore man. This topic literally is just going in a circle. Was decent discussing it with you but I just don't have the want to go on. All things aside you call it out on the franchise and not these devs. I think the Black ops team can do this well and will add more specialists during the next few years.... I canot fathom why they would not want to add more considering what they are going for which is a more OW/Siege thing which clearly follows the formual of adding more heroes to their game. So to jump on them because there are only 10 heroes in a 5v5 game... Kinda seems silly to me... Even if you let everyone else pick first, there are 6 specialists  for you to choose from... That is A okay with me and I don't doubt that Treyach (not Activision) would add more specialists in the up coming months of this year. 

I will say I see your opinions and points, but you type them out like it's fact. You drive off the franchise and not the developers. I think Treyarch will do this right.  You win I lose. I just can't care anymore about something so silly.


Didn’t know this was a contest. I think most people can decipher a fact and an opinion from the context. What some have done, is state an opinion and than actually write words such as ‘... and that is a fact’, when in FACT, it is not. Paraphrasing examples would be like saying ... ‘it’s a fact people that hate quickscoping are bad”. That’s not a fact yet in the past you have made statements similiar to this. Typically a fact references information from a reliable source and the context of an opinion is how a person reacts to that information based on thier own personal experience and other factors that either strengthen or weaken the credibility of thier opinion. Didn’t mean to bring up the past, it is rare you engage negatively as much as you once did based off my example but just trying to illustrate the difference and a bit confused on how my comments could be interpreted as if I was stating a fact. 

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@Horrorman wrote:

Honestly I have to say first I liked what I saw at reveal....

But now, after I saw more videos on youtube, I guess what have they done the last 3 years !? Sure it takes time to come up with such ideas in 3 years like...

 

...why not just taking the specialists from BO3 and remove jumping? Wow great idea we use this.

or

... another one came up with that idea "Oh why do we not change the soldier count who can play together from 6 vs. 6 to 5 vs. 5...wow great idea...sure took me 3 years to get onto this.

or

...another one was dying to fast and was coming onto this, why not changing the health from 100 to 150? Wow great idea, we use this...sure took me 3 years to get onto this.

or

...you see what "they" use for to get new nades? Yea I see it, why not copy and paste it into our new game and sell it for a new inovation to the community.

or

...have to stop now. Think everyone sees where I´m coming from with this...


^ hey look small changes that we are able to see but they are catching ***** for changing things and catching ***** for apparently not changing things... WoW what great community feedback!


I know my english isnt the best...

I think you understand this. I give a sh*t about your dumbsh*t comments. I never replied to you, or in threads about quick scoping, in which you made me laugh that hard. So have a good one.

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