Torque is now useless with Reaper/Zero, Recon also weakened

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Torque and Recon have now officially become the worst specialists and there is NOTHING you can do about it.

 

  1. Torque: he’s the most heavily impacted. Torques barricade and razor wire is already instantly destroyed by Zero (EMP mainly or hacking but EMP is constant) and Reaper. Torque is the ONLY specialists in the game who’s ultimate (barricade) and special issue (razor wire) are instantly and a guaranteed destruction from a simple EMP......not to mention Zero can use Icepick already to hack the barricade and even once the hack wears off, the barricade is automatically destroyed!!

Note: when an EMP is thrown it will say “your barricade has been DISABLED” and it will remain disabled for a short period. Then it will automatically explode after. It can take zero damage and still explodes. So an EMP doesn’t disable the barricade it actually destroys it fully. I thought it had to be a glitch at first but after all these updates it’s still the same.

 

Now add in REAPER:

Reapers Scythe mini gun UTTERLY shreds all of Torques equipment in just a couple shots. Barricade? In the last game I played it took 2 shots or less from the Scythe to destroy the barricade. So not only could people ALREADY simply use a rocket launcher to destroy the barricade (or use Zeros EMP), but now reapers mini gun will simply destroy it basically instantly. So now ANY AND ALL of Torques abilities like his ultimate weapon ability (barricade) or special issue (razor wire) are both destroyed basically instantly from his Scythe aka mini gun.

 

If Torque is fighting against Zero(s)AND Reaper(s) which is very likely, can anyone name a single specialist who has ALL their abilities instantly countered by 2 totally different specialists??? Torque seems to be the only one...

 

2)RECON

Recons sensor dart doesn’t work when REAPERS Radar shroud is placed. I have tested this dozens of times and have waited for the enemy to place their radar shrouds and then launched a sensor dart over them - it has ZERO effect. Since reapers shroud is so massively big it can render recons sensor dart pretty useless.

Luckily his vision pulse isn’t impacted, but vision pulse is one of the weakest abilities in the game (it’s the slowest charging ability and normally gets 1 use in a team death match unless you have Equipment charge - even then getting 2 vision pulses is rare).

 

How to fix? Simple. This doesn’t require any massive overhauls.

 

For TORQUE: EMP from Zero should only temporarily disable his barricade, like when playing the game it states clearly “barricade has been disabled” when an EMP is thrown. But in reality it explodes the barricade shortly after even if no damage was done. It makes no sense for a special equipment EMP to destroy the barricade completely.

SIMPLY have the EMP temporarily disable Torques barricade, and once the effect has worn off the Barricade returns to normal.

ALSO: Reapers Scythe should not destroy the barricade so fast in a couple of shots. This makes the barricade useless as it’s already very easily destroyed by Rockets, and  batteries cluster Grenade or war machine will destroy torque and his barricade also.

 

2)Razor wire shouldn’t be destroyed by an EMP. Rather have it Disabled. That way it does still provide a counter to Razor wire for Zero teammates to temporarily pass through the razor wire. Or you can simply shoot it and destroy it. It’s so easy to walk around razor wire to begin with.

 

For RECON:

  1. Recons sensor dart should be able to reveal enemies that are in the radar shrouds area, somewhat. The mini map can still display the fuzzy radar effect, but recons sensor dart should still be able to show red dots on the mini map. Right now the sensor dart does absolutely nothing.
  2. Possibly Vision pulse recharge time reduced to help somewhat counter all this constant radar shrouds? I mean it takes 12 mins for vision pulse to charge (unless it’s changed) which is the longest charging ability besides Seraphs annihilator. The annilator is a one shot kill weapon, the vision pulse is 3 very weak and faint pulses. So why it’s the longest charging in the game is so odd when there are many abilities MUCH stronger.
ThatRebel17
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Or. THEY CAN TAKE SPECIALIST OUT

hackerprolvl2
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Alot of zeros bull***** shouldn’t do *****

 

like how does a hack, take a threasher or helicopter? 

 

Its man controlled

 

or destroying streaks?

 

its a hack not a emp/nuke

 

in theory zero shouldn’t just disorient kill streaks not destroy or take over -____-

 

but none of the specialist make sense

Thats why they make bo4 horrible

 

hackerprolvl2
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Torques shield takes what 2-3 Rockets (maybe 4) to destroy, The Razor wire isn't that big of a deal.
But there have been countless times in which I've watched to torques just hole up in a location and can't be removed from the spot until the shield dies or you manage to head shot them add in the mesh mine specialist tagging along with them and it can be incredibly annoying.

Every other specialist is easily dealt with to an extent. You can shoot them all or for the most part avoid their specialist...besides torque as anyone decent running torque is going to set up in a spot (at least in Kill based modes) in which you can't just ignore them.
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As for zero hacking an A10/Helo.....the games not "realistic" by any stretch of the imagination no COD really is, that's why not why people play it.

However modern day equipment is loaded with tech so "hacking" it isn't totally crazy. A10's are the last remaining fly by wire plane, they can literally be flown back home on 1 wing and a 1 engine. Most modern planes wouldn't stay in the air if they lost their systems.
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I mean if you obtained a thresher I imagine you're stomping the enemy team anyways. Zero is a worth while annoyance to me to deal with equally annoying items in the game.

Any specialist or object that can allow a Player(s) to just hide inside a room and be near invincible without a fair amount of effort being used to remove them from the spot deserves to have an annoying counter (in their mind)
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TheGLORY
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Hacking it is crazy comd on lol

 

but torques shield takes 2 hits with rocket

 

and the whole “placed right”

 

doesnt help against emo gernade......

hackerprolvl2
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Actually not true at all. You can find the best place imaginable to place his barricade and all it takes is one EMP to land remotely close and it destroys it. If the EMP simply disabled his barricade (like the game claims) then zero or her teammates can easily bypass the barricade, or they can simply destroy it while it’s temporarily disabled. But the EMP should not make the barricade destroyed...

Also like I said REAPERS SYCTHE/Mini gun instantly destroys his barricade also.
So does Zeros icepick/hack and technically so can batteries war machine so there’s plenty of counters already, no need for OP ones.
I used to play lots of safeguard and people destroy barricades all the time without needing zero or reaper. But now add in those two specialists and it’s messed up.

Also what about Recons sensor dart having no effect in a radar shroud? Besides destroying it there is no counter that I know of, and the only logical one would be Recon but that doesn’t work.
ThatRebel17
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Batteries war machine does nothing to barricade -______-

 

which makes no sense

hackerprolvl2
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Really? That’s odd I swear a few times I’ve had destroyed but I guess is there’s a torque hiding behind a barricade the torque will die anyways. 

 

I juat discovered Zeros EMP even destroys a Dart score-streak! I was flying it mid air when zero threw an EMP and it instantly got destroyed. I don’t get why it’s so powerful 

ThatRebel17
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Yes radar shroud is BULL*****

 

im ok if its like recons circle dart

 

you cant see red dot

 

but to be a big black FUZZ BALL. Is stupid

 

i dont know who developed specialist, but they Are the dumbest people known to man

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Like I said...WITHOUT her EMP Torque's shield especially as a solo player is just an absolute pain to deal with, especially in kill based game modes (really any mode if the torque user is smart)

It takes 3-4 Rockets to destroy a barricade, it takes way too many FMJ2 LMG shots to destroy it, Grenades are seemingly useless against it.

It's counterable....via multiple deaths the majority of the time. If I notice people really abusing torque you can guarantee I'm breaking out Zero and removing them from their camping spot.
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