Not many players and still 70% cheaters -

Call of Duty Black Ops II PC

Not many players and still 70% cheaters -

The PC community is pathetically loaded with cheaters. And with all these sites selling cheats you'll be lucky if you're ever playing against anyone legit in the near future. I Just left a server with at least 5 people obviously cheating. It's extremely obvious you can cheat and not get caught by either of the 2 anticheat.

I use ghost, cold blood, dead silence, suppressed weapon, and my camping opponent gets shot by another enemy to his left but somehow my camping opponent manages to spin in the opposite direction of the big red dot on his radar that is shooting at him and stop dead on me-> (someone not on radar and not shooting at him) for the pwn. Yep he just got lucky, And I'm the Pope!

This PC community is full of cheating trolls waiting for someone to call them on their cheating so they can demean you. Someone should do something already, there are just way to many cheaters, even with such a low player count the game is still over run.

I think the game companies should stop making games for PC, because this seems like the only way for them to stop people from making profits by selling cheats and destroying the game.

(who are these no name companies being fed by Activision EA, etc etc due to the fact that it is so easy to hack and create hax for their games) Who are we funding? Are we funding terrorists? who owns these companies that sell cheats?

Who needs this community loaded with dickbags pressing a button to turn them to their next target? I sure as hell don't.

I say either fix it-.(stop the cheating/get rid of the cheat sites) or stop making games for cheaters and companies selling cheats. Because that's your largest audience. And me the legit gamer is a piece of shit!

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Re: Not many players and still 70% cheaters -

in reply to LoadedWithCheat

I see your frustration, but you do know that cheating is not only limited to the PC, console cheats also exist for hacked consoles. This is not as widespread as PC due to the requirements and knowledge to hack the console.

I often come across people I think are hacking for sure, i'm like how the hell did they know I was there. But after watching the player in Theater for the whole map I come to realise that he/shes is just better than me at COD, no big deal i'm not that good at COD, BF is more my kind of game.

Also when I think OMG everyone's hacking, but still I usually get a positive K/D I can say to my self, I'm not that bad if I play against hackers (and good players) and still come out with mostly positive K/D.

I play mainly BF and can say at least COD has kill-cam and theater and 9/10 you can spot a hacker. BF on the other hand is much harder to do, unless you come out the game and spectate.

I have caught and name/shamed on youtube a few blatant wall-hackers in the past, only to get hung by the (hacking don't happen your just ****) naive people, but that's just the COD community made up of main kids for you.

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Re: Not many players and still 70% cheaters -

in reply to XeroOne1

no one wants to say there are hackers in game but it is a proven fact...with hundreds of thousands being banned...go figure.....play and have fun and report accordingly....we just need people to quit reporting the knifers and shotgunners so they can get legit reports and go thru them asap

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Re: Not many players and still 70% cheaters -

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XeroOne1 wrote:




I often come across people I think are hacking for sure, i'm like how the hell did they know I was there. But after watching the player in Theater for the whole map I come to realise that he/shes is just better than me at COD, no big deal i'm not that good at COD, BF is more my kind of game.



No, you can't spot a cheater by trying to camp in a corner that most people will abrubtly turn to and check on a whim, and will always have you on radar when someone gets uav. You have to keep moving and stay off radar, then you'll see the cheats turn away from guys on radar and snap/spin and abrubtly stop right on you (It's usually done in 2 pivots when you are caught out of their FOV or through a wall. The 1st pivots puts you partially in the cheaters crosshairs the 2nd abrupt pivot lands dead on to a part of your/the enemies anatomy)-> these are your cheaters.

You have to pay attention to their movements (the way they target the enemies) (is it always the same turn speed for every pivot that lands dead on the enemies body? etc etc). At this point I can see it on the fly. I don't always have to go back and review theater to know who's cheating and who's not.

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Re: Not many players and still 70% cheaters -

in reply to LoadedWithCheat


You are absolutely right about PC.

I played pro CS for years and gave up with non-lan and public matches all together. This game is no different on PC. I crossover to xbox and it is so worth it if you don't play comp. Believe me, the lack of frames and getting used to the silly controller is completely worth it.

Anyone who complains about cheaters on Xbox has never played PC. It's a joke.

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Re: Not many players and still 70% cheaters -

in reply to LoadedWithCheat

At most maybe 10%~15% cheat. There are both 'good' players and yes there are 'cheating' players and there's all of the rest (Majority), but the overall fundamental problem is and has been Matchmaking. The simplest example is placing two 5 KDR players on either side with e.g. ten 1 KDR players filling the majority of the teams. Yes the 5 KDR players have the time of their lives killing everyone else in the game all while avoiding each other like the plague. Okay what's the results here, 83% have a miserable experience for the 17% in that one example. In reality >3 KDR players make-up <10 % and probably closer to <5% of the player bulk.

Business model: a successful business attempts to cater towards as many as possible, so rather than the current and completely broken Matchmaking pair the players in both KDR and SPM brackets i.e. separate the players. Now the problem is a low player count which creates a bigger barrier but the (Majority) still wants separation. The solution I 'hope' Ghosts takes is the bracket players based upon 'skill' (combo of KDR + SPM). The ONLY players that will complain are the high KDR players (minority), but the end result is a FAIR challenge. Therefore, if everyone is treated FAIRLY no one should have a complaint. Some ideas see -> http://community.callofduty.com/thread/200703909

I had a long discussion with an un-named player with a 3.5+ KDR he tried to give me his spiel on 'the strongest survive' crapola. In general our discussion was on the PC sales sharp decline and players move towards consoles or competing FPS games on the PC. To his perspective matchmaking is fine and dandy, but my observation was fear to play against players in his 'skill level' more so ignoring the fact the 80%+ and more like the 95%+ are finding the game unfair. Funny thing is he says he'll feel offended when un-ranked servers ban him cheat or not, and apparently he cannot understand the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.

Long story short, IF Activision's goal is to push players into other upcoming games then yep they're on the right track. However as a business owner myself and IF I had to make a decision 5% v/s 95% then no duh bye-bye to the 5%.

It's imperative Ghosts fixes this longstanding problem if there's going to be more competition in the wide-open FPS market yearning for a new kid on the block.

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Dream lobby: everyone has the same skill level.

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Re: Not many players and still 70% cheaters -

in reply to Momba1

Well 1st off you have to have "like minds" for this discussion. Something you and I probably don't have. See, for me I haven't yet run into a player with an above 2.0 kdr that isn't using these new aimcheats.

Yes you may disagree and there lies the problem. we're both wrong/right because we have no proof.

But I'll have to go with what i know. 1). it's easy to get the cheat. 2). I know when I'm seeing a bs pattern like way to many pivots a perfect/same distance away from each enemy on the initial find etc etc...

There is luck and there is nonsense, and I know nonsense when I see it.

If only 10-15% cheat there wouldn't be so many sites selling cheats for this game. give it up.

The cheat is cheaper than the game and everyone in the community may try it. You stick to your 15% story and i'll stick with mine.--> they buy the game/they buy the cheat. i actually upped it, It's probably 85% that do this. (buy the game/buy the cheat)

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Re: Not many players and still 70% cheaters -

in reply to LoadedWithCheat

Pff...read my posts, I loath cheaters probably more than you do. However, some players are simply good and have good PC's, Monitors, GPU(s), Mechanical Keyboards, Gaming Mice, etc. Those websites are a near guarantee for a TAC and not often enough a VAC Ban.

Rendering example - if you're rendering say 45-60 FPS and you come across the same legit skilled player sporting 200 FPS or a solid (no drops) 120 FPS and with good equipment then chances are you're going to lose a gunfight, and worst is 'stuttering' where your frame-rates are all over the place and don't remain constant. Personally, I cannot stand to play BO2 <120 FPS. The new G-Sync enabled monitors might solve the problems; see - NVIDIA Conference Vlog Part 2.2 -The Way It's Meant To Be Played 2013 - YouTube

Listen I've seen an ex-MLG PC Player (BF2) play on my PC and go 70-0 and there are absolutely no cheats installed.

Again, the problem is Matchmaking.

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Re: Not many players and still 70% cheaters -

in reply to Momba1

Couple of other things..

PC quality does improve performance, however the amount of improvement is solely depended on the difference in pc quality.

Examples:

If someone is running 10fps then they are not going to have a chance against an equal skilled player at 60+. But a player running 60fps can compete just fine with a guy running 200fps (although, there is a slight advantage).

And it is the same with hardware, if you rule out the extreme crap mice/keyboard/monitors, and play with 'decent' equipment then there is only a slight disadvantage. I play almost the exact same on my laptop at work

On to cheating..

PC is awful, not just BO (which is better than most) but all games on PC. It is just to easy to create accounts/keys and hack away. (why is game is not comp on pc).

I played pro CS and can not tell you how many guys would be 'outed' at every LAN tourney. I remember London summer sess one year, there was 164 players registered and only 106 actually ended up playing. Teams were dropping players left and right. Talk about awkward- having to share a room with a player that 'swears he just had some bad rounds'.  Because of this I only play private matches with friends (any game on pc).

I agree, the BO matchmaking is just silly. Especially in a game that has lethal scorestreaks.

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Re: Not many players and still 70% cheaters -

in reply to Momba1

Momba1 wrote:



Pff...read my posts, I loath cheaters probably more than you do. However, some players are simply good and have good PC's, Monitors, GPU(s), Mechanical Keyboards, Gaming Mice, etc. Those websites are a near guarantee for a TAC and not often enough a VAC Ban.



Rendering example - if you're rendering say 45-60 FPS and you come across the same legit skilled player sporting 200 FPS or a solid (no drops) 120 FPS and with good equipment then chances are you're going to lose a gunfight, and worst is 'stuttering' where your frame-rates are all over the place and don't remain constant. Personally, I cannot stand to play BO2 <120 FPS. The new G-Sync enabled monitors might solve the problems; see - NVIDIA Conference Vlog Part 2.2 -The Way It's Meant To Be Played 2013 - YouTube



I have to agree with Thoms on this. There is no great advantage in the things your talking about. Plus I have a 64bit pc my fps is set to unlimited and seems to always be over 120fps.

Thanks for the help momba but this game has loads of cheaters it's not loaded with pro MLG players, sorry to burst your bubble but your way off. Thanks for the help in trying to tell me that what I see is skill and not a cheat. Good look!

It's basically like this momba. Either I see the cheat or I don't. This aimcheat so many are using has a pattern. when I see the same exact aiming pattern over & over coming from the 4 guys ruling the server it's not that hard to figure out it's not a human and that the community has got their hands on an aim-cheat.

That's what's going on here chief. They ain't MLG pro's


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Listen I've seen an ex-MLG PC Player (BF2) play on my PC and go 70-0 and there are absolutely no cheats installed.



Ok that's a great story, I'm not saying it's impossible to get 70-0 but it is very unlikely as I see it unless everyone is a complete noob. Who is this guy? what guild/clan was or is he in? Does he have a youtube channel so I can see him in action? I have to say that using this story of an MLG player to prove your point is sensless. where is he? Give me a link to this legit pro so i can see what your talking about and see if he's just another noob using an aimcheat.

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