Black Ops 2 multiplayer was awesome. The community just got worse.

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Re: Black Ops 2 multiplayer was awesome. The community just got worse.

in reply to RuggedSavior

The problem with theses games are : the community asking for stupid changes on weapons and other things that don't need to be changed like (when this games first came out I really enjoyed it!) but after the players that don't know what they're talking ask for things to be changed like hip fire accuracy, lowering the shotguns power, sniper rifles, limiting what attachments you're able to combine. It's ridiculous! The SMGS, Pistols, should have MUCH less range, if you can't dive and shoot you should not be able to jump and shoot what a joke. Why don't we instead just make a game that's practical!!!! There's a new concept! WOW! Hinder the player from sprinting around like an idiot, that I'm certain operatives do not do!!! Slow down the dropping speed, no jumping and shooting cause it's not practical, (give a gun expert or a troop a gun tell him to jump sideways and shoot a target 30 ft away probably won't happen very often) allow them to VAULT and that's it, no jumping should be allowed. It's the people that play the game that ruin it for people that PLAY the game the way it should be played, it is designed to play.

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Re: Black Ops 2 multiplayer was awesome. The community just got worse.

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COTA_Vanquished wrote:



The problem with theses games are : the community asking for stupid changes on weapons and other things that don't need to be changed like (when this games first came out I really enjoyed it!) but after the players that don't know what they're talking ask for things to be changed like hip fire accuracy, lowering the shotguns power, sniper rifles, limiting what attachments you're able to combine.



COTA_Vanquished wrote:



The SMGS, Pistols, should have MUCH less range, if you can't dive and shoot you should not be able to jump and shoot what a joke. Why don't we instead just make a game that's practical!!!! There's a new concept! WOW! Hinder the player from sprinting around like an idiot


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Re: Black Ops 2 multiplayer was awesome. The community just got worse.

in reply to RuggedSavior

MW2 online experience is better stil to this day.

i played BO2 alot and i mean alot.

but MW2 is stil alot more fun to do.

sure it has issues naming OMA+DC+noobtubes commando or unbalanced weapons.

but atleast there a skilled player would be higher up then an noob would be unlike BO2.

the dreaded and highly hated F2000 in MW2 i can do really good with it.

also we arent hating it for minor reasons.

the connection is a HUGE issue and that is what breaks it.

i run 60 down 5 up which is even more then an xbox360 can handle.

yet im at a disadvantage? hmm weird.

the kap40 and B23R thing or AN94 and M8A1.

dont forget the target finder.

point being in MW2 if your skilled at the game you can own people with the weakest of guns in BO2 you can pick up any gun and do well with it.

also back to the connection part of the reaction.

in MW2 i get a 2-3 bar connection at times which plays 10x better then the 4 bar connection of BO2.

also your thing with better internet speed or team mates being spread out across the world.

i live in the netherlands,

i mostly run with 2 friends.

1st friend lives in netherlands and is only like 20-30 mins away from me.

2nd friend is like 30-40 mins away from me also in the netherlands.

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Re: Black Ops 2 multiplayer was awesome. The community just got worse.

in reply to Darkdyllon11

you know everyone who has claimed what your claiming has been proven wrong. Those that posted videos claiming what you do show that they simply dont understand the small things in the game.

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Re: Black Ops 2 multiplayer was awesome. The community just got worse.

in reply to deamonomic


So what you are saying then is they intentionally programmed the game to allow players with choked upload bandwidth (3 bar high ping) to be able to run around corners and shoot a player with a good connection (4 bar low ping), before that player has time to react due to uploaded information of the high ping player not reaching the low ping player? Every other modern day online game has checks in place to stop that from occuring. Most games in the last 10 years are programmed to throttle the high ping players download packets to not exceed that of its uploaded packets. That simple fix would have changed the whole dynamic of this game.

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Re: Black Ops 2 multiplayer was awesome. The community just got worse.

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messiahOU812 wrote:




So what you are saying then is they intentionally programmed the game to allow players with choked upload bandwidth (3 bar high ping) to be able to run around corners and shoot a player with a good connection (4 bar low ping), before that player has time to react due to uploaded information of the high ping player not reaching the low ping player? Every other modern day online game has checks in place to stop that from occuring. Most games in the last 10 years are programmed to throttle the high ping players download packets to not exceed that of its uploaded packets. That simple fix would have changed the whole dynamic of this game.


funny thing... thats not happening. Again, everyone one of you guys who have claimed it either A: dont even try to show it or B: they do try to show it but always end up being proven wrong. Fact is CoD is a fast paced game and time to kill takes a couple hundred milliseconds. There nothing in place to make good connections suffer. And if the game is as bad you all claim why are you still here? oh right to troll the forums and try to make the game look bad so you can get paid... >.>

You guys cry wolf far far too much. Thats why no one believes you. We have more people playing the game then complaining about it and im talking about ingame complaints, thats natural to complain in the middle of the game. People do that in every online game out there. What we dont see id the hundreds of thousands of posts to these forums saying there a problem. only a very small fraction of the community comes here, its less then 1%

I will say it once more, I can find more videos of the game running fine then you can of the game being broken.

and no that was what I was saying, how you got that conclusion I dont know. But at this point Im willing to bet that you dont actually have any problems you just get owned and cant handle it.

Why dont you do yourself a favor and do this community a great favor and leave.

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Re: Black Ops 2 multiplayer was awesome. The community just got worse.

in reply to deamonomic

Less than 1% spend the time necessary to voice a complaint. The other 99% just drop the product and don't purchase it again. Like I said, there is no need to provide proof. The proof is there when you put in the game and look at your screen. You saying that an issue is not there does not make that issue disappear on my (or the rest of the communitys) screen.  Very possibly you don't see the issue because you are part of the problem (3 bar, high ping, low/choked upload bandwidth). Try playing the game on a low ping high bandwidth connection if you ever get a chance. It's much different.

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Re: Black Ops 2 multiplayer was awesome. The community just got worse.

in reply to messiahOU812

What you are describing right there is not a netcoding problem but one that is embedding very deeply into the game engine (the same engine BTW that EVERY CoD game runs on) also not helping is of course the stupidly fast TTKs that more often than not are faster than even LAN networks let alone online have trouble keeping up with, you know why BF3 typically has "less" lag? its because the weapon damage is lower and takes more bullets to kill so the server actually gets time to process that players are taking damage and distribute that information to all players connected rather than 1 players Xbox telling the Host that the player they are shooting is dead because they were killed faster than 25ms.

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Re: Black Ops 2 multiplayer was awesome. The community just got worse.

in reply to QwertyBoredom

even battlefield isnt perfect. I have shot at enemies plenty of time only to see them die after the have taken cover.

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Re: Black Ops 2 multiplayer was awesome. The community just got worse.

in reply to deamonomic

No game is, the point of the post is that allot of the "lag" issues are either in engine problems (camera/body-mesh de-sync when rounding corners, body-mesh/hitbox de-sync) which is to be expected from such an old game engine (its like 15 years old now) or directly related to networking that cannot keep up with the insane TTK that CoD games have.

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