Bring back Hardcore CTF

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Re: Bring back Hardcore CTF

in reply to NoLifeKing29

EXACTLY! I mean dont get me wrong I did enjoy CTF I LOVE HC, for the simple fact you dont need half a clip to kill a guy, I liked CTF cuz it was different, and it made you play smarter cuz of the spawn delay, but when you got team mates shouting cuz "WTF Warrior dont get the flag!" Or "I was 3 away from a nuclear who capped?!" really?

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Re: Bring back Hardcore CTF

in reply to BAREWarrior

Agreed can't tell you how many times i was team killed because i was about to cap the flag or i would see a teammate  with the flag hiding while our flag was there so his friends could use all their kill steaks.  So stupid.

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Re: Bring back Hardcore CTF

in reply to BAREWarrior

BAREWarrior wrote:

Most of the time on HCCTF I heard people screaming cuz I would cap the flag, like it was all about getting kills. it was stupid.

Same for me when I played a few matches of HC CTF, but it is mostly someone on our team that captures the enemy flag, but doesn't bring it back to our base. Was glad that they replaced HC CTF with HC DOM.

@NoLifeKing29: Apparentaly it is, more so in CTF than DOM.

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Re: Bring back Hardcore CTF

in reply to NoLifeKing29

Not exactly true, there were nights I would see SnD having a lower population then CTF. Not often but it did happen on ocassion. I have seen CTF have double the SnD numbers before in HC on rare occassions too.

People just do not want SnD touched becasue they think it is competitive or takes skill to play.

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Re: Bring back Hardcore CTF

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trialstardragon wrote:

People just do not want SnD touched becasue they think it is competitive or takes skill to play.

Not really it is because it is a bomb objective. It is the most played/popular game mode, that involves a bomb objective, than Dem and HQ.....for now. That one reason why it is deemed untouchable. if they do decide to replace it. It will either be Dem or HQ.

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Re: Bring back Hardcore CTF

in reply to acm2010

It is not because it is a bomb obj game mode. It is popular becuae it has one life, which means quick rounds or long rounds. it allows one player to brag about being the best if they get the most kills. It allows one team to camp the most for kills. Which all of these make it seem more comepitive then the rest of the lists.

SnD is just Demo but with only one life and one bomb. So a mix of Sab and Demo but the restriction of one life per round. One bomb two bomb points, one life.

No reason to add HQ since you have HP which is just a HQ variant. Demo would be not much more then Dom but one less flag to worry about.

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Re: Bring back Hardcore CTF

in reply to NoLifeKing29

Go to this URL and take a look at the 15th response by Vahn.

http://community.activision.com/thread/200530533?start=10&tstart=0

Let's try to stay on topic and not argue about our assumptions of what the actual facts were. It's pointless to debate about one game mode having more numbers than another or vice versa because the Devs already know the stats. Remember that BO2 is offered on four different platforms (Xbox 360, PlayStation 3, PC and Wii U).

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Re: Bring back Hardcore CTF

in reply to Xxace789xX

I love your suggestion about holding a vote Xxace789xX. After all, if they can do it for those personalization packs, it wouldn't be impossible to do it for the Hardcore game modes. However, as much as I hate TDM, if it lost in a vote, removing it probably wouldn't be in the best interest of the game and the community. If the game mode bringing in most of the hardcore traffic by such large margin was suddenly removed, we might change from a minority of the COD community to an extinct species. Also, I never understood how TDM and KC were that much different. One seems to be TDM with coins and the other TDM without. However, I'm not saying that they are bad game modes, I just don't enjoy them.

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Re: Bring back Hardcore CTF

in reply to n3rd_Gweebz

Dude, PM me.

I host the occasional HC-CTF match and I also play pretty much daily so you can always invite me to yours.

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Re: Bring back Hardcore CTF

in reply to n3rd_Gweebz

I know how you feel n3rd_Gweebz. Thank you for starting this discussion n3rd_Gweebz And special thanks to Fox Hound Pro for allowing it to remain open. I joined an online gaming community while BO1 was out and progressively made my way up through the ranks. There were about 16 clans total in OGC. Some would primarily play TDM, others would play a variety, but the clan I was in only played HC CTF and we LOVED it. I eventually became a section leader over two clans within the community. I LOVE CALL OF DUTY, but I took it for granted. I made this discovery when Modern Warfare 3 came out and did not offer Hardcore Cap the flag for months. The clan members wouldn't join in together like before. Some went to HC DOM, some went to KC but didn't enjoy DOM, some left and started other games and so on. As a leader I needed to make myself available and play with the troops, but I just didn't enjoy it anymore. I decided that I needed to step down and let someone else take over. I stopped playing COD all together and switched to Battlefield 3. Though I enjoyed BF3, it was merely a cheap substitute for the Black Ops game I loved so much.


I understand that for some programming reason, it's not be possible to an additional game mode in our hardcore playlist. When I started playing COD World at War, I could play various game modes and it didn't matter. However, when I became a dedicated and loyal COD player I got hooked on Hardcore mode, and after the switch, core CTF just doesn't cut it for me anymore. I am disabled and cannot work. Black Ops 2 has even helped me overcome my depression. I enjoy it so much I would literally play for over 24 hours sometimes, keeping a full party of 6 (except from 4am until 7am). I have over 32 days of online play with the majority of it being Hardcore CTF. I had over 1,000 captures and around 4,000 returns. However, allot of my friends won't play now because we were all HC CTF fans. It's one thing to loose your favorite game mode and quite the other to loose your only game mode. Do any of you know what I'm talking about? HC CTF fans are very fervent about the game mode and many, just like myself, played it exclusively. To me it seems to require more strategy, communication and teamwork that any of the other modes. I've made allot of friends there. I always played with a full team of people I knew, rather than my past core experiences of being stuck on a team of nine year olds that have no mics, running around aimlessly like chickens with their heads cut off. I think the comradely that comes with playing as a HC CTF team adds to the overall enjoyment of the game (of course winning frequently is always a good thing LOL) When HC CTF was rotated out I decided I would try HC DOM. after all, I was a DOM fan when I first started playing COD a kazillion years ago. I tried HC DOM for two days but... OMFG, it wasn't pretty. LOL  All I have to say is, THANK GOD for the Mob of the Dead zombie map. I've been playing MOTD about every day since. And I mean almost every day. I've been researching, learning and posting anywhere I could find for part of my day, every day, for the past 55 days trying to get  Devs to consider bringing HC CTF back.

Weather you give us back HC CTF or not, I really hope this message makes it to someone over there. I want to say that as developers it obvious that you worked hard to deliver this product and I'm sure you take great pride in your work, as you should. You may look at numbers and see that there are not as many hardcore players and there are core players. However, I want you to know that your efforts have improved the quality of my life and you're reading a comment from someone that truly appreciates your work. If there is any way that you can find a way to bring Hardcore CTF back to your game it would mean more to me than I could ever describe. Thank you for your time.

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