Camping vs. Rushing? NO! The right play...

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Camping vs. Rushing? NO! The right play...

(Inspired from another post from G... not wishing to hijack it: Batman camps and no one bitches about him...well only sometimes.

All I can say about the "Camper vs Rusher debate" is... well nothing. I will always refer to the best logic I have ever seen posted on these forums.

And I paraphrase and summarize: The Counter Playstyle

"I oppose the enemy: If they are rushing, I slow down. If they are camping, I rush, tactfully. If they are throwing tactical equipment, I wear tac mask.  If they are throwing grenades, I wear flak...  One needs to adapt to whatever the enemy is doing an oppose it, and that is how to beat them"

- Izjar11/Ego

There is no skill in camping, true. But there is no skill in rushing either. The skill is to be able to beat your opponent by out maneuvering them by using their weaknesses against them.  This can be done rushing, patrolling, camping, defending...doing whatever makes sense at the right time. What I call, the right play.

Everyone will have their preferred play style. However, expecting that others play by that play style is counterproductive.  Try opposing them and beat them at their own game.

Have a wonderful day everyone, and happy gaming!

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Re: Camping vs. Rushing? NO! The right play...

This is what I try to do in every match that I'm not forcing myself to use a particular loadout to complete a challenge.  Honestly, I like being able to change up my playstyle to fit the circumstance.  It helps to keep the game fresh.  I'll be curious to see what playstyle changes people make in the next title as the maps there seem to be more complex.  I'd imagine that it's going to play well to my adaptive style and likely be a real torture test for those that are stuck in the extremes.

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in reply to phxs72

I' think you'll find the least skilled players at the extreme ends of the camping/rushing spectrum.  Some people in these forums don't like KD as a stat or don't think it's indicative of skill.  But, in TDM at least, it is very, very telling of how good a player is over the entire course of their TDM gameplay. 

When I see someone with a 1.6KD/160SPM, I'll go look for the guy.  If I can find him early in the match, he is almost always an easy kill because you know he'll just run and hide in the same spots every time. 

Against the 0.9/320SPM rusher, OTHO, I'll just patrol my spawn and wait for them to come to me.  I love going up against rushers in Rush.  I'll just patrol and stay close to the area with the large wooden wire coil and pick them off as they exit the bubble room, or down the ramp on the opposite end. 

Rush and flank the camper; camp and pick off the rusher.

One thing though, if the other team is full of the 1.0KD/300SPM rushers, then it is a bit more difficult because you just can't get all of 'em rushing you every which way, no matter how good you are.  In this case, either you have to switch to the worm setup (which I just won't do for reasons discussed countless times elsewhere), or start traversing the map a bit more and get kills from gun fights. 

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Re: Camping vs. Rushing? NO! The right play...

in reply to Yppecaye_the_Dogged

A shame someone who seems to play well, wont allow himself to be challenged (never got that PM you say you sent). I would enjoy encountering your tactics in the game!

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Re: Camping vs. Rushing? NO! The right play...

in reply to Izjar11

LOL, and you'll never have a chance either.  I just don't like you. 

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Re: Camping vs. Rushing? NO! The right play...

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Yppecaye_the_Dogged wrote:



LOL, and you'll never have a chance either.  I just don't like you.


haha well this game is not a popularity contest but I respect honesty. When you overcome then your "distaste" to my writing, let me know.

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Re: Camping vs. Rushing? NO! The right play...

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Izjar11 wrote:



haha well this game is not a popularity contest but I respect honesty. When you overcome then your "distaste" to my writing, let me know.


Actually I agree with you most of the time and you have good insights. 

It's your persistent requests to play together which was becoming your more and more transparent way of calling me out for whatever personal reason you might have.  Sorry I had to be so blunt, but you just didn't seem to comprehend my more polite responses to you.  Lets hope my bluntness has finally gotten the message thorough. 

Like I said, I PMed you a long time ago.  If you failed to check it before the forum update a month or so ago, I guess it's just tough luck since you want to play with/against me so desperately.  (You're not one of those 1v1 types, are you?)

Sorry OP for going OT, but this had to be answered. 

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Re: Camping vs. Rushing? NO!  The right play...

in reply to Yppecaye_the_Dogged

Call you out? Your kidding? I shame no one here, nor would I. I read what you write and find it to my liking, I just rather play against someone who "thinks" than the randoms I play online:

Let me name some really (Really) good players I have met here in the forums:

  1. Ghamorra ghamorra
  2. RLBL rlbl
  3. Djlundeberg
  4. Camping_Camper @Run_N_Gunning_camper
  5. Zvers zvers
  6. illstaplay (or something)
  7. Phxs phxs72
  8. Esmorgue Esmorgue

There are a few others, whom I have had the pleasure to play vs and with and each time I play with them I either give them a run for the money or I laugh and have fun trying. Do not confuse me for some troll child who calls out camper every time I die or challenges players to the idiotic 1v1 me BS. I will not ask you again, but the invite is always open just let me know via who you are in the friend invite

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Re: Camping vs. Rushing? NO! The right play...

in reply to Izjar11

Izjar11 wrote:



Do not confuse me for some troll child who calls out camper every time I die or challenges players to the idiotic 1v1 me BS. I will not ask you again, but the invite is always open just let me know via who you are in the friend invite


Never really thought that you were except, again, the persistent requrests began to seem like it.  You have to admit that, after a while, it's not unreasonable to suspect it.  By reading your posts you seem to be pretty level-headed, which is why I had a problem with the persistent requests.

I certainly perfer not to be at odds with you.  PM sent with GT.  Feel free to add me, I know your GT.

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Yppecaye_the_Dogged wrote:







Sorry OP for going OT, but this had to be answered.


No worries mate.  The deal with Ego is he likes to play with (and against) people who can think.  I as well have friended many people from the forums (even some of whom have started off on the wrong foot)

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