A rather radical suggestion for IW's version of hardcore..

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A rather radical suggestion for IW's version of hardcore..

So as the hardcore players know, when IW knee jerked ricochet onto us in mw3 it caused some major issues issues with the game afterwards, these it turned out were not addressed and are still present in Ghosts as once again we have ricochet, even though we jumped up and down and went blue in the face pointing them out

Now i am not going to get into the whole for or against ricochet argument there's already enough discussions on that to reply too .... and I do "get" each side of the debate but ricochet is broken that is a fact.

So what I do want addressed is the issues adding ricochet has caused as these imo ruin the game play experience nowadays for a lot of players .

So my suggestion is turn friendly fire OFF... now I know some of you just spat your drinks over your screens and have now assumed I have gone bat s**t crazy by suggesting removing one of the most basic tenets of hardcore but here me out before passing judgement.

The simple fact is IW are not going to spend major time recoding to fix the issues ricochet added ( I am basing this on the fact these are issues present in mw3 and not addressed), so we are left with two options currently

1) return hardcore to its correct state and have the 3 tk and penalize rules reinstated

or

2) keep the status quo where ricochet is on and we are subjected to numerous issues

So what would turning off friendly fire really do..

it would eliminate all the ways teammates can now troll you thanks to ricochet , for example stealing care packages, walking in front of you on purpose when you shoot ect

Team mates shooting your equipment to complete challenges

Team mates shooting you dogs to complete challenges

Randomly dying because a car / object you shot once exploded as a team mate walked past it

Randomly dying as an enemy caused an ied to explode when a team mate was in range

Being flashed and stunned because you threw a tac nade over a wall and the blast radius hit a team mate

Dying over and over and over again because you called in the airstrike field orders on warhawk

Being able to shoot down your own helis or team mates helis to complete various challenges

Now if you are still thinking i've been sucking on the wrong koolaid again..

heres a question for you to consider before passing judgement on my idea...

How many times honestly have you died in hardcore as a result of ricochet as it was supposed to be intended to work? .. ie because you accidentally (or on purpose for the trolled) shot a team mate.

for me and most of the people I play with the answer is maybe a handful of times since the games been out.

Now ask yourself how many times have you died due to one of the issues ricochet bought up.. for me I lost count after a few days of playing

Now ask yourself and be totally honest how many of you would even actually notice if friendly fire was on or off if ricochet was the only option for hardcore?

Now reply and tell me im mad

* disclaimer Ricochet NEEDS to be on in snr and snd I have NO issue with that at all.     For me hardcore has always been more about the other basic tenets like lower halth faster gameplay and less clutter on the screen than whether or not i can aim straight

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Re: A rather radical suggestion for IW's version of hardcore..

in reply to Maccabi

I'm pretty sure that a good portion of your HONEST Ricochet deaths have been due to me surprising you. Funny to see the shoe on the other foot for a change *takes multiple demerits to the chin*

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Re: A rather radical suggestion for IW's version of hardcore..

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I'm pretty sure that a good portion of your HONEST Ricochet deaths have been due to me surprising you. Funny to see the shoe on the other foot for a change *takes multiple demerits to the chin*


you mean the combination of my cat like reflexes and your inability to ever tell us where you are on the map

but i was looking for feedback to my idea mostly

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Re: A rather radical suggestion for IW's version of hardcore..

in reply to Maccabi

Cat like reflexes? Cant say I've ever seen you bristle you fur, spit on me and run away. It was usually a TK with an EMP nade.

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Re: A rather radical suggestion for IW's version of hardcore..

in reply to Maccabi

Disclaimer- I haven't played HC in Ghosts yet. Purely due to the population factor of X1 - after Christmas this Aussie will want some HC action.

Turn friendly fire off - makes me cringe as teamwork and aim is supposed to be a pillar of HC. And friendly fire rewards your team for being such ( as long as the game is being played in correct spirit)

however, I am certainly in the "no ricochet" camp. So - mac, I don't particularly like your suggestion,,, but it is pragmatic -- thus agreed.

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Re: A rather radical suggestion for IW's version of hardcore..

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I don't particularly like your suggestion,,, but it is pragmatic -- thus agreed.



I dont like my suggestion either but its a solution to a problem that in all honesty if implemented the majority of players wouldn't notice.

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Re: A rather radical suggestion for IW's version of hardcore..

in reply to Maccabi

I honestly think you need a rabies shot.

No really...

... you've been fluff-balled one too many times.

Fire discipline is what separates the men from the boys. It's silly you can shoot through a mate and into an enemy with impunity. Taking one piss, poor design decision with respects to ricochet and compounding it with an even worse one?

I will pass.

Let me know how the rabies shots go.

That's my opinion but it should be yours ;-),
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Re: A rather radical suggestion for IW's version of hardcore..

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rankismet wrote:



I honestly think you need a rabies shot.



No really...


... you've been fluff-balled one too many times.





Fire discipline is what separates the men from the boys. It's silly you can shoot through a mate and into an enemy with impunity. Taking one piss, poor design decision with respects to ricochet and compounding it with an even worse one?



I will pass.






Let me know how the rabies shots go.


again i completely agree but given the choice of ricochet with all its game breaking issues or no friendly fire and the rest of hardcore working as intended its the lesser of two evils methinks

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Re: A rather radical suggestion for IW's version of hardcore..

in reply to Maccabi

I hear you, Macc.

But I would rather not have TA think, "Well... it worked in Ghosts."

That's my opinion but it should be yours ;-),
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Re: A rather radical suggestion for IW's version of hardcore..

in reply to Maccabi

I very much prefer the 3 tk's and ur out over ricochet, the only complaint I ever had was when I got a tk from killstreaks I wasnt controlling.

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