Change the riot shield back!

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Re: Change the riot shield back!

in reply to Tygrastic1

Alright, shield users are almost always killed more than any other player so to characterize them in any way as "invincible" is disingenuous at best. I expect there to be little support for any novel method since the only ones who are likely to support it are those who use it who are few and far between. By my suggesting the tac insert be brought back is more of a vote of support for a tactic other than just getting in others player's faces with a gun which is getting old. Getting old means fewer sales and fewer players.You come up with something novel or "douche" or whatever you want to call it, but the game has very little newness.

By the way, the magic formula for video games is to balance irritation with reward. Obviously, one of the more irritating things in the game is C4-riot shield. I see the trend to nerf the riot shield-C4 (and it is a nerf despite the "animation" spin) as a step backward in one of the few things the game had going for it.

I played some BO2 for the 1st time in a couple of months last night, so you'll be glad there was one less riot shield-C4 player.

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Re: Change the riot shield back!

in reply to Donkey--Jawbone11

Its not a step backward. Its a correction of a flawed mechanic, and its justified. Time to learn how to use the riot shield properly. Or as I predicted, jump off because you can't adapt.

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Re: Change the riot shield back!

in reply to Donkey--Jawbone11

No one here cares you went back to an older game just because you didn't like a change that took away your ability to exploit the shield. And it is by no means a step backwards. It is a step forward in the fact they they did not leave it as is, to cater to those that abused it. It is only a step backwards to you since you abused it and now cant anymore as easily as was before. The same how players cried about the change to DS/SR saying it ruined the game when it did not. Just they like you did not want to have to change how you played so did not want the change. Since it made it harder to abuse that one factor of the game that never should have been there in the first place.

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Re: Change the riot shield back!

in reply to Donkey--Jawbone11

I have regularly used the RS/C4 combo.  I finished the Danger Close gold patch last week, so that puts me at 850 C4 kills minimum.  It is the most skill-less setup in the game.  You slow walk to a group and toss the C4 with near zero exposure, hence the invincibility factor (right now), and you immediately detonate it- sometimes mid-toss.  I played with a guy in S&R that went 22-6 in a game using the setup a few nights ago.  Why?  Because of flawed game mechanic where he can sit behind his shield and toss the C4 without being exposed coupled with the penalty of death in that game mode.  It is now fixed, and quite simply a step in a positive direction.  The setup was exploited due to the game mechanics.  Apologies you were one of the people running around with the irritating LOL loadouts.  I dealt with them just fine.


Donkey--Jawbone11 wrote:


By the way, the magic formula for video games is to balance irritation with reward. Obviously, one of the more irritating things in the game is C4-riot shield. I see the trend to nerf the riot shield-C4 (and it is a nerf despite the "animation" spin) as a step backward in one of the few things the game had going for it.


And by the way, the magic formula to balance a video game is to balance irritation and reward?  I laughed when I read that statement, so for that, thank you.  That is the first time I have ever heard that combo.  So now, we need to hand out gold star stickers to people that play irritating loadouts since by your definition, they should be rewarded?  Really?  I mean, really?


Donkey--Jawbone11 wrote:


By my suggesting the tac insert be brought back is more of a vote of support for a tactic other than just getting in others player's faces with a gun which is getting old. Getting old means fewer sales and fewer players.You come up with something novel or "douche" or whatever you want to call it, but the game has very little newness.


So your suggestion for 'newness' is to bring back the tac insert that has been in the previous titles?  Doesn't NOT having the tac insert provide that 'newness' from other titles?  Also, the tac insert was used to get in other player's faces quicker with a gun, but is somehow getting old by your definition?  Why in the hell are you playing a FPS military shooter?

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Re: Change the riot shield back!

in reply to Donkey--Jawbone11

Donkey--Jawbone11 wrote:



We need more novelty, not less in the game.


You have space kittens as a camo.

The amount of "novelty" already in this game is nauseating.

That's my opinion but it should be yours ;-),
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Re: Change the riot shield back!

in reply to Donkey--Jawbone11

Don't you think a shooter should reward gunskills? COD already puts less emphasis on gunskill than most shooters, due to the high damage weapons and low recoil = short ttk. If you're behind me my aim doesn't help me at all.

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Re: Change the riot shield back!

in reply to rubthisway1

shooter pooter

gunskills shmunskills

the programmers don't care what terms are used. They just want to make a smash hit game that everyone and their mother will play and waste a lot of money on. Our brains crave novelty. Without it, we get bored. We may think what we want is some pure game of skill, but gamemakers know better. If you don't believe me about the magic balance between irritation and reward, there is a TED Talk which discusses the science behind video games very elegantly.

Last thing I'll say --  as an annoying C4 chucking riot shield wielder, Your hate makes me stronger...

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Re: Change the riot shield back!

in reply to Donkey--Jawbone11

And the nerf made you considerably weaker, to which no amount of "hate" will ever help you get back. Riot Shields in S&D are now free kills, you are no threat to anyone.

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Re: Change the riot shield back!

in reply to Donkey--Jawbone11

I don't hate anyone, and your comment makes no sense at all.

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Re: Change the riot shield back!

in reply to Donkey--Jawbone11


Last thing I'll say --  as an annoying C4 chucking riot shield wielder, Your hate makes me stronger...


Actually, dislike of that playstyle by many players (but also clearly by the developers) has got your playstyle nerfed, thereby making you weaker.

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