If MW3's MP7 and ACR had a child it would be the Honey Badger

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Re: If MW3's MP7 and ACR had a child it would be the Honey Badger

in reply to Gerbera

LOL - then use an 805 with silencer - its range is still better than HB.

HB is not used competitively - enough said.

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Re: If MW3's MP7 and ACR had a child it would be the Honey Badger

in reply to Ghamorra

It takes 5 shots to kill for any target > about the length of a tennis court, which is short to low medium range.

Its recoil can go any direction - look at your accuracy stat with HB  - its not that high.

Look at MLG - people use R5, AK, 2010, Mtarx,

If everyone was using Honey badgers then you might have a valid point.

So, no, its a mid tier gun. Just because a good player pub stomp with it, they can pub stomp with most guns - mainly enabled by sound whoring noobs.

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Re: If MW3's MP7 and ACR had a child it would be the Honey Badger

in reply to Ghamorra

Your title is wrong the Honey Badger would be the baby of the MP7 and G36C cause the Honey Badger actually has a little recoil the product of the MP7 and ACR would either be the Remington or the AK-12 or the MTAR-X. A lot of the assault rifles need nerfs and the K7 and MTAR-X need nerfs as well or they could just buff all the other guns so no one loses their favorite gun but they aren't invincible anymore.

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Re: If MW3's MP7 and ACR had a child it would be the Honey Badger

in reply to TheDarkOne123

Psh, whats wrong with the K7? Its a great CQC stealth weapon, but its damage drop off is sharp and dramatic. Its like a 10 shot kill at 20 feet. Its the worst SMG at any kind of midrange and longer. Its fine.

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Re: If MW3's MP7 and ACR had a child it would be the Honey Badger

in reply to NoLifeKing32

The damage is what's wrong what's the point of the Vector if the K7 has the same damage and a way faster fire rate? It's an insta-kill for anyone unfortunate enough to be at medium range or lower there's no reaction time. It's needs a to be a four to five hit kill so it has an excuse for reduced recoil. It's using 9mm rounds with a Blowback system it should be behaving like a 9mm pistol or a 9mm smg not a an assault rifle. Besides no gun nerf would even affect hardcore players since every gun is one to two shot kill.

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Re: If MW3's MP7 and ACR had a child it would be the Honey Badger

in reply to TheDarkOne123

I have always felt SMGs are stronger than they deserve. It would blow people's minds if they knew how much more range SMGs have in Ghosts than they did in Black Ops II. The base damage on the more powerful SMGs is also higher. SMGs have always needed more recoil and less range. The damage is fine so long as the range is appropriate. Again, this is just my opinion.

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Re: If MW3's MP7 and ACR had a child it would be the Honey Badger

in reply to Ghamorra

I only think they need more recoil if the average soldier can't handle them. Some SMGs do need more recoil though. Also the Honey Badger isn't between a SMG and Assault Rifle the FAD is so the FAD needs more fire rate and less damage and more mobility. The Honey Badger uses 7.62x35mm type rounds and it's built in suppressor is to stabilize the gun while firing these huge rounds. The Honey Badger is actually personal defense weapon it's designed for defense while using power. Basically it's more of an assault rifle carbine then it is a smg even though it uses a stock designed similar to the MP5. So the Honey Badger needs to be three to five hit kill with a slower fire rate and the same amount of recoil. Another thing that needs to be addressed is the zoom and sway on the Thermal Sight for the snipers the range of thermal sight is only 4x zoom that's it basically an Acog Sight so it needs to be the same optics as the sniper scope, and it needs more sway on the snipers while the assault rifle Thermal Sight should only 4x zoom because it's broken and idiotic to have the same scope have less zoom on the snipers and sniper zoom on the assault rifles.

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Re: If MW3's MP7 and ACR had a child it would be the Honey Badger

in reply to TheDarkOne123

Its not an instant kill, K7 is typically a 3-4 shot kill up close, it has a built in silencer so the range is automatically reduced. Outside of 10 feet you pretty much don't even have a weapon in your hands. It has lower damage and lower range than the Vector, which you can put a muzzle break on to make even stronger. Can't do that with the K7. There is nothing wrong with the K7 at all.

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Re: If MW3's MP7 and ACR had a child it would be the Honey Badger

in reply to TheDarkOne123

The big difference between the Vector and K7 is that the K7's recoil is crap, making it horrible at long range and barely usable at medium range as opposed to the Vector.

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Re: If MW3's MP7 and ACR had a child it would be the Honey Badger

in reply to Gerbera

I know it's recoil isn't idea for long range engagements my problem is the damage it's only using 9mm rounds with a simple Blowback system so it should be similar strength to other 9mm SMGs and pistols it should not be three to four hit kill at medium range and below it should be four to five hit kill with a little less recoil.

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