Whats your gripe with grip?
YEah it feels like all the smg's need grip. I like the vector with grip and silencer. It's accurate and still has good damage. I also liked the mtar with red dot and silencer.
THe vector can still be used at long range as well. The mtar isn't great at long range though so just stick to medium and close with that one.
I Don't like the bizon. It runs through ammo and it isn't very accurate either. The cmj just feels weak and outclassed in every category. The k7 is good at very close range but damage drops off considerably after that. The vepr I still don't have a good feel for yet so far I haven't liked it but I still need to give it a chance. But so far I notice it's not too accurate and it goes through ammo a little too fast.
I have to agree about the K7... I love it, but it's only really good in CQC. It loses everything else.
Its definitely not the go to weapon of this game.
With these size maps SMG deserve and should be inferior weapons. They are deadly up close, but don't be expecting to kill people like in Blops2 with them because it's not gonna happen. They have them balanced perfectly, if you are close you can get plenty of kills with it if accurate. If you just spray and pray then you will get smashed by an AR. From a distance you have no chance against a sniper. So they are made to be used in CQ gunfights, as they were intended when designed.
maps like strikezone are perfect for an SMG.
ill say it again: unlike previous COD , this COD requires difference approaches for each map.
i have no problem using an smg .
SMGs are exactly what they should be, close quarters weapons and nothing more. Sorry the MP7, the Ak74u and the Peacekeeper are gone, no more getting shot across the map with an SMG. Choose what maps to use them on and make a loadout that fits their strengths and they will perform optimally.
Hate to break it to you but the Honey Badger is the new hybrid, even if it is classified as an assault rifle. It's actually really good in CQC.