@ A_Trey_U: What I Want From Call Of Duty & Why...

Call of Duty Ghosts Wii U

@ A_Trey_U: What I Want From Call Of Duty & Why...

  • return to a simpler time

it would be so awesome if we can turn back the clock and have another game based on World War 2.  im not really liking the futuristic theme thats going on. we need something gritty and dark. personally im craving a World At War remake in HD, or even a World At War 'II' type game...i know a lot of people would very interested in this.

  • better connection.

why? BO2 was the first Call of Duty to actually give myself and plenty of other people lag comp. im not sure why if the previous 4 title ran smoothly on the Wii and being on a new console maybe something wasnt finished or coded properly...although from what it seems, lag comp has been around since MW2 on the other consoles and the Nintendo community got its first and second taste with BO2 and this game Ghosts. will we get dedicated servers to fix the problem? ...maybe not for Ghosts, but maybe in future CoD titles?

  • stop objectifying women

i understand that this game is rated M for Mature, but lets be reasonable here. is there really a need to have pictures of women such as Arkaden, Plaza, Express among other DLC maps? is there really a need to have a strip club that has a sign saying "Nude Girls" on it? is there really a need to have playercards made by the game creators featuring pics of ladies who are dressed inappropriately? as a Man, i can honestly say that it has no place in Call of Duty. on Black Ops 2, emblems are cool but a lot of people made a lot of disgusting emblems and they were given the ok by the game creators because of what is in the game already. when i see a custom emblem of some girl bending over or pushing herself against the glass of the TV screen, i report it.  back in MW3, there was unlockable player cards that were objectifying to women. in the middle of a war and the buildings have giant holes in the walls, cars are on fire, there is rubble everywhere and these objectifying pics of girls are left unscathed?  im not the only one who feels this way either, i did some searching and found this little golden nugget of a thread :

Graphic content option for Ghosts?

i think that people who say "whats the big deal?" and "who gives a $#!T?" are the people who give likes and support the custom emblems listed above and have no problem seeing things of that nature. i for one dont care to see that and if the Devs decide not go objectifying with the next game, that will most likely sway me and Queen into buying the next game without hesitation, dedicated servers or not. i mean, whats the point of having objectifying pics of girls...is there a tactical advantage for having them there? is there some sort of need or want to have them there? couldnt they have been replaced by something not objectifying at all? some sort of propaganda material or headline news about recent events on buildings and walls? i must give props where props are due though, the character customization was well done in that the girls were not whored out like the girl from zombies in BO2...my personal reason in boycotting that mode. there was literally no difference in the male and female characters apart from the hair and the face, but overall good job on that part, if girls are to be included in future titles i can only hope they will be done as tastefully as they were in Ghosts.

  • map design

i miss maps like downpour, shipment, pipeline, wetwork from CoD4 and dome, makin day/night, upheavel, cliffside from W@W and array, firing range, havanna, nuketown from BO1 and lockdown, hardhat, resistance, bakaara from MW3.  we dont need these huge maps that are 10 times bigger than that of Turbine from BO2, especially if there are not enough players to fill a quarter of the map.


  • game modes

ground war should be on the WiiU, it ran beautifully on Black Ops 2 and i actually preferred that to regular TDM cuz not only do you get 9v9 lobby going and way more targets to shoot at, you get a mix of 3 different game types and that in itself is awesome enough. include all game modes so that we can taste a little bit of everything, its pretty annoying paying the same price as other consoles and getting half a game or even a quarter of it.


  • open dialogue with community

there needs to be more communication between Activsion and the consumer, not only to hear our problems but to help create a game that would top the one before it. there cant be 2 to 3 month gaps in between contact, there needs to be an acknowledgement of existence and a reinforcement of how we as a community are important because we spend our money on your product(s), if i made, lets say, a burger with all the sides and fixings and something was off a little, i would appreciate the feedback...do my best to fix the problem on the spot and continue to do my best to retain that person as a customer so that in the future my burger with all sides and fixings will be the best it can be now and in the future.


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Re: @ A_Trey_U: What I Want From Call Of Duty & Why...

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  • stop objectifying women


i understand that this game is rated M for Mature, but lets be reasonable here. is there really a need to have pictures of women such as Arkaden, Plaza, Express among other DLC maps?


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How were those pictures objectifying? They were just made up ADs and the women were fully clothed and whatnot.

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How were those pictures objectifying? They were just made up ADs and the women were fully clothed and whatnot.




they treat women like pieces of meat, plus... in the middle of a war and the buildings have giant holes in the walls, cars are on fire, there is rubble everywhere and these objectifying pics of girls are left unscathed? what gives?

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Maps.  The maps in Black Ops 2 were different.  I liked that.  I never had a problem with any maps though except for the crazy small spray and pray maps like Nuketown.   Anyway, I ended up hating one thing about Black Ops 2.  All the headglitching spots that made the game a camping, lmg target finder user's dream eventually got on my nerves.  Obviously I adapted, but it was annoying.  Ghosts has hardly any headglitching spots.  I like that.  I also LOVE how big an open they are.  They are a rusher's dream.  People complain that they cater to campers.  Those people aren't playing like they should.  They are a rusher's dream.  Tons of flank routes to the campers.  I love it.  Best maps in the series in my opinion. 

ATU's interaction with the community was great...until the trolls ran him off with a constant barrage of insults. It's disappointing...

Can't say I would be against another "older war" shooter, but I do like what they have out there now.  Wish you did get Ghosts.  It's great.  My favorite of the series, but I understand why you didn't.  Of course the lag while playing in parties probably still would have screwed us over due to the distance between us.  Overall this game seems to have less lag, better lag comp, and better hit detection.  Not that BLOPS 2 was bad, but this one is enough of an improvement to be noticed.  Playing in a party of two is no different (lag wise) than playing solo which is a plus.

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ATU's interaction with the community was great...until the trolls ran him off with a constant barrage of insults. It's disappointing...




I don't believe that for one second, if it is true then he deserved it, but I think he's not been here because one day he'd say we're getting one thing or another, then it turned out that we're getting nothing. Its my belief he's been told to stay off the official forum, and to stop answering certain questions. He is however allowed to post patch notes and similar stuff..

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like2nap03 wrote:





ATU's interaction with the community was great...until the trolls ran him off with a constant barrage of insults. It's disappointing...





I don't believe that for one second, if it is true then he deserved it, but I think he's not been here because one day he'd say we're getting one thing or another, then it turned out that we're getting nothing. Its my belief he's been told to stay off the official forum, and to stop answering certain questions. He is however allowed to post patch notes and similar stuff..


He told us flat out that he would stop posting if comments became too "toxic" I think is the word he used.  Basically if he was being insulted a lot.  Well that happened and he stopped posting.  Coincidence?  I think not.  Did the other consoles get dedis?  I didn't think they did. 

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Aside from a few bad eggs, I don't think anything was "toxic". We raised issues. If we don't get a response or we don't get a patch for months...then yes, it might get a little more heated. I think we had valid points and I put the onus on them (or more so the suits in charge). I don't recall him being "insulted" personally. If the game got/would get insulted...make a better game and give us the support we need. TALK TO US. They caused what they got/get. I don't feel bad for them at all.

The problem is that they aren't true dedicated servers (which is how everyone took it). The other consoles got a combo of dedicated servers and listen servers (player host). Nobody is using just dedicated servers. I personally don't think we have enough numbers to support maintenance/cost for a Wii U dedicated server so I think we got stuck with listen servers.

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Aside from a few bad eggs, I don't think anything was "toxic". We raised issues. If we don't get a response or we don't get a patch for months...then yes, it might get a little more heated. I think we had valid points and I put the onus on them (or more so the suits in charge). I don't recall him being "insulted" personally. If the game got/would get insulted...make a better game and give us the support we need. TALK TO US. They caused what they got/get. I don't feel bad for them at all.



The problem is that they aren't true dedicated servers (which is how everyone took it). The other consoles got a combo of dedicated servers and listen servers (player host). Nobody is using just dedicated servers. I personally don't think we have enough numbers to support maintenance/cost for a Wii U dedicated server so I think we got stuck with listen servers.


I don't feel bad for them.  Much worse things can happen to people, but we had a lot of posts saying the devs don't care and that they don't know what they are doing.  They should never have released the game.  They can't fix anything so they should just stop making the games.  Not exactly constructive criticism.  If telling a developer that they don't know how to make a game isn't a direct insult then what is?  ATU said he would stop posting if that stuff happened.  It happened and he stopped posting.  The game has issues and we would get better responses if we brought them about in a more polite/professional kind of way.  I believe Vonderhaar mentioned that as well on the BLOPS 2 forum.  He didn't post because of the way he was attacked.  Why would someone want to when they are being told that they don't know how to do their job and that they don't care?  Or in the case of Von even getting death threats.  (ATU doesn't have it that bad thankfully.  That's beyond stupid)

As far as dedis go they had planned for them or he wouldn't have mentioned it.  Obviously the plans changed.  He simply could have said "there is no more information at this time".  It's not like it's his decision to make and I don't think he stopped posting because of that.   I doubt he lied about them.  The people that pay the bills changed their minds and decided not to give us dedis.  He can't help that.

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Many of those "insults" appear after an issue has been brought up for a few weeks with no response. I think we've all seen very constructive criticism here in this forum for devs. So many examples of us stating things very calmly and without aggression. Seeing patches on other consoles come and go...seeing DLC on other consoles come and go...no response to much of what we politely say - I think some aggression at some point is expected. You don't think they expect it? If they get butt hurt over a couple people trolling them, then they need to find a new career. I think he was already wanting out of the conversation so he said he'd take his toys and leave the sandbox if we acted up again. Or he just knew he wasn't allowed to engage how he wanted so he backed out.

Oh they planned for dedi's...my point is that when they said dedi's they meant dedicated servers + listen servers...not just dedi's. They made that clear a few months after launch. People got pissed about that.

I agree...I prefer getting a "no" over silence any day. So much of the aggression and countless threads would have gone away if they just said no. At least we'd know.

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WiimotesRus02 wrote:




like2nap03 wrote:





ATU's interaction with the community was great...until the trolls ran him off with a constant barrage of insults. It's disappointing...





I don't believe that for one second, if it is true then he deserved it, but I think he's not been here because one day he'd say we're getting one thing or another, then it turned out that we're getting nothing. Its my belief he's been told to stay off the official forum, and to stop answering certain questions. He is however allowed to post patch notes and similar stuff..



He told us flat out that he would stop posting if comments became too "toxic" I think is the word he used.  Basically if he was being insulted a lot.  Well that happened and he stopped posting.  Coincidence?  I think not.  Did the other consoles get dedis?  I didn't think they did. 


Back out clause, and its not just about the dedi's mate. Magnum is right, if they're so sensitive then they should make a better game. And lets face it, what difference does it make, he posts patch notes, and that's the only true honest stuff that they post. I once posted the definition of the word "test" and he wanted or thought about banning me for it. Do you honestly believe this game was tested?

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