Macbook ruins my internet speeds on every other attached device?

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Re: Macbook ruins my internet speeds on every other attached device?

in reply to phxs72

You guys have me all wrong, im not really on about how the game runs, im more about sorting out how the mac ruins my speeds on all connected devices.

First off, yes im playing blops 2, im asking here coz I know you guys and know a few of you are clued up with stuff like this. Im playing on the xbox, and yes pauly the sounds are way better in blops 2 than ghosts. The only thing that is reallly irking me now is the snipers, damm snipers in every lobby apart from HC, so I just play HC KC and HC DOM, now ive managed my aiming and sensitivity out im feeling much better about things.

Let me explain to those who arent quite understanding where im coming from.

Normal day, my speeds are around 14 up, 1.5 down, 30 ping. We can have about 12 devices connected, phones and what not, ipads etc, and though it may afffect how things perform if say 3 people are watching iplayer or youtube, my speeds will remain at 14 up. 1.5 down , ping 30. All of a sudden, my speeds keeps dipping, game becomes unplayable, my sony phone cant even play youtube vids, I check speeds, its dropped to 0.5 down, 0.01 up and 600 ping. I did a few reboots of the router, as soon as we reconnect, speeds as normal 14 up etc then I noticed once the mac shows as an attached device, speeds drop, ping go crazy high, and nothing works.

So I did a few searches as I havent had much time, and theres numerous complaints of macs dragging down speeds, and no one seems to know a fix. One guy had his brand new mac wired to his router not 12 inches away, and it took 40 seconds to open the google search home page. Theres numerous other complaints, and the few who claimed to have fixed it, had very complex solutions that basically took all day configuring the mac and going into security and other stuff, all things im not confident in doing, seeing as its my daughters brand new mac and shes off to uni in 4 months.

It doesnt even have to be being used, as long as its connected everythings screwed. Its got to the stage where I just reboot the router to piss her off as shes sat there browsing catlogues for shoes and im uber frustrated

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Re: Macbook ruins my internet speeds on every other attached device?

in reply to BlueEyedAlien

I understood.  I've got the same problem on my end with the Samsung tablet.  I've got 19 meg down and 2 meg up when it's not connected and as soon as it connects, I've got 600 k down and 300 k up.  I can run multiple laptops, phones, and consoles all day long with no problems but turn that one pad on and it wrecks my speeds.  So if you happen across a fix please let me know and if I find one then I definitely will let you know.  I figure that it has to be a software problem.  I just don't know which one.

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Re: Macbook ruins my internet speeds on every other attached device?

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It wasnt aimed at you pal, it was aimed at the ones above you who didnt read the original post properly.

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Re: Macbook ruins my internet speeds on every other attached device?

in reply to BlueEyedAlien

I'm not sure if I should feel insulted or not, but I can understand why you believe that.

I am an avid Mac user. I own an iMac and Macbook Pro, and have also read a book on Mac OS X (still have a few more I want to read though). That's why I thought I could possibly help, although networking isn't my strong point. Still, what I wrote is my first impression of what information you gave. That is why I asked more questions to help figure out what the issue was, as well as why I was asking them and what other issues could be arising from it/method of possibly solving it. Sometimes things that appear to be the issue may not actually be the issue. If your computer is slow, it could be the hard drive, there could be a virus on it or it could even be the RAM. Determining what the issue is is the first step to solving it. If I assume it's the Macbook, then there is a chance this could be a mistake, and it is not the Mac its self. It sounds hard to believe, but continue reading...

I can understand that you are getting annoyed, but when you provide only so much information about an issue, that is the information the person is dealing with to figure out the problem.

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Now then, with the added information you replied with, along with your other posts, here's the run-down:

Even with the questions noted above, and answered, there can be multiple reasons why this is happening, and it doesn't have to be Mac specific. I questioned if there was a virus as some viruses can hog bandwidth/use the computer. Sometimes virus scans don't do much to show, although personally I keep a virus scanner on my Mac anyways, even though Apple doesn't suggest it (A just in-case security measure). In any case, I've investigated this issue a bit more thoroughly (I love my new Internet connection, it can keep up with my 30+ tab multitasking) and here is what I've found:

  • Depending on the Macbook (Air, Retina or regular) the Macbook may be running a new standard referred to as 802.11ac. Some Mac users have expressed issues with this, which was rolled out back in June 2013, well before your daughter got her Macbook. These issues seem to still be common up to January 2014, and possibly even later. Updating to OS X 9.1 seems to have fixed most issues, which leads this issue to be a possible OS or driver issue (MacNN Mobile : Latest Headlines).

  • Next, this issue may be due to the router its self. Refreshing all devices (as feature that your router should have), may help fix the issue. Refreshing removes all connected devices and then they reconnect. Also, if you go into System Preferences > Network, pull up the "Advanced" button and go to the "Wi-Fi" tab. Remove your router from it; and once you do reconnect the Macbook with the router (do this before you do the refresh though). This may lend a hand to fixing this issue; however, keep in mind that I don't know what/where the settings to do this are in the router's settings.
  • Back regarding to 802.11: After looking into this a bit, it seems routers default to the slowest computer protocol. This may not be the case for this situation (I doubt it), but this is still something to keep in mind (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=468275).
  • Use Activity Monitor to see what processes are currently active. Although you stated there you don't believe there is a virus, as a just in-case, look for any unfamiliar processes that may be active. I often use Activity Monitor to keep track of my RAM usage, and among other things; it's kind of like Windows Task Manager, but more colourful.
  • A device in your list of active devices connected to your router could be sucking up network bandwidth. It's possible that it is the Macbook, but it is also possible that it is another unknown device that is causing it. I'm not too sure, but it's worth checking out (Router slowing down internet speed by 10 times. - Routers - Networking).
  • Lastly, I have a question: Is this issue only between the  Xbox and the Macbook? If so, then it's possible that both devices have the same IP address, and are thus conflicting with eachother. This is just a possible fix/reason. I'm not sure where you get your numbers from (Xbox or PC).

Now, to note, the video you posted below is actually making use of a public IP Address. Basically, what they changed was the IP address assigned by the router, which is private, and then use/replaced with a public IP address (what is 4.2.2.1 & 4.2.2.2 - Tech Support Guy). This issue can then be related with the IP address assignment your router is doing, and would likely be a result and conflict between two devices, or more, with the same IP address. Your router should be doing dynamic assignment for IP addresses to avoid this though. Also, while searching I found that this thread gave some nice information on how the upload and download processes work (Does the network run at the speed of the slowest connection? - Wireless Networking | DSLReports Foru...). Also, a little something of a back end bit about DNS Servers (Why do i get faster speeds using other DNS servers??? - Time Warner Cable | DSLReports Forums , Name server - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia).

The very last thing I can suggest at the moment is to have the router assign your daughter's Macbook a new IP address.

Also, what were the results of using the Macbook in Safe Mode? Macs can go into safe mode by pressing and holding "Shift" on the keyboard. If there really is no program using the connection at the time, then by booting into safe mode, this will clear up any questions about the Macbook having any spyware that is causing it, or background processes, etc (OS X: What is Safe Boot, Safe Mode?). This would also mean that the issue is solely a problem with the Macbook connecting to the router. Another way of seeing if it is spyware is to ask her if this issue happened while she was away, when she connected to any networks nearby. If the same thing that is happening at home is happening on the go, this would indicate possible spyware or background processes to be the issue.

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Re: Macbook ruins my internet speeds on every other attached device?

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He stated in whatever reply that he uses Xbox and not Wii U...sadly.

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Re: Macbook ruins my internet speeds on every other attached device?

in reply to the1andonlyIKY

Oops. My bad XD T'was a force of habit XD Forgot they were just posting this on the Wii U board.

Is fixed now.

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Re: Macbook ruins my internet speeds on every other attached device?

in reply to barolb

My repsonse was aimed at Pauly tbh, not you.  he just replies to everything I write telling me to go wired, like thats the issue here,lol

Played yesterday, average scores of say 24-6, top scorer every game. Speed was 16 down, 1 up, ping 32. Once she came home, put the mac on to do college work, I go to 1 red bar, my scores start becoming 4-26, my speed remained decent at around 9 but my ping went from 32 to 700!

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Re: Macbook ruins my internet speeds on every other attached device?

in reply to BlueEyedAlien

You're speed remained decent although it did take a good hit but that ping is atrocious.  I have to wonder how your speed could be so good but your ping be so bad at the same time.  I would have thought that both would have tanked.  Granted I'm no expert.  Normally I'd think interference from the MAC disrupting your wireless signal or maybe conflicting IP addresses getting assigned.  Just shooting in the dark here.

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Re: Macbook ruins my internet speeds on every other attached device?

in reply to phxs72

My IPS has high ping when connecting to anywhere outside europe, its pretty standard for any UK internet company, im not sure about fibre optic but we dont get that around here. The only 1 who was fine with ping to the states was TalkTalk, and they kept having periods of no internet, and 3/4 of our devices in the house wouldnt connect to the wifi, they blamed our devices saying stuff like their internet was compatible with blackberry, and laptops etc, it was all rubbish, so we left.

Basically as a general UK cod gamer, ping to the UK host can be anywhere from 2-40, which is great. Once we get a european host the ping is around 70, again fine and acceptable, BUT once we test servers in the states/mexico/aus/new zealand etc it goes from anything between 400-1000. This as you can imagine makes playing games like cod horrendous on a US host, it feels like I dont stand a chance, I die over and over as soon as I see a guy, no reaction time, im just dead before I can think "a guys there". The scores confirm this too, my scores are now almost where I was at with my wiiu, in the afternoon going say 24-8 in an average game of kill confirmed, once we get into early evening my scores taper off and go the other way, 8-24. Its very frustrating.

This was the MAIN reason I switched consoles, as the vast majority of the wiiu community is in the states, and I figured playing xbox the bigger community would gaurantee me a european host. I do get more euro hosts, and theres 150 times more players, meaning every modes has at least 2000 players at any time, that has come true, but still once we get past say 8pm UK time every host is from the states almost, its like the game picks the best connection irrespective of location, even though I search on BEST search option. I have however noticed a LOT more host migrations, and a lot of weird lobbies where no one can move as the connection interrupted logo appears, but no one leaves and they just stand around with the game at 0-0 and wait time out.

This was also the reason I dont play ghosts, or mw3 and im finding the same with mw2, infinity ward use a diff selection process for matching people, and whatever I do I end up in US lobbies, not standing a chance in pretty much any game I join. Id play mw3 and mw2 if it was playable, but I dont enjoy ghosts. Either game though is pretty horrendous connection wise. Its no fun dying over and over. I honestly dont think US players realise what an advantge they have. Ive seen people post speed figures of 170/180 down and 0 ping, or 1 ping. For gaming that ping is just insane and if you have a ping that low and dont have a 4kdr your doing something wrong.

My wiiu kdr was 2.75 on blops too if I averaged out both accounts, my HC account (3.5) and my domination account (1.50), but on the xbox im aiming for 1.00, at least until blops 3. Im currently 0.99 ,dragged up from 0.65 so far. Im finding the horrible KC spawns are doing me, plus people run around more in packs on here, and I find I kill a guy and theres always a guy behind him and die as soon as I kill someone 9/10. Its hard to get a good run going.

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Re: Macbook ruins my internet speeds on every other attached device?

in reply to BlueEyedAlien

Clan wars has made the pack technique quite popular in KC.  My clan uses it too because it works so well.  I actually have to remind myself to not reload so much and anticipate that there will be two more behind the guy that I just killed.  It does make getting tags much more difficult.  Even if you drop all 3 of them you probably will only get 1 tag out of it (2 at the most).

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