Those games didn't force me to run & gun. I had to change my strategies to account for the map designs and had to be smarter about how I camped, but I still camped. Things like the stupid (IMO) change to ghost where you were only invisible while running around did seem to try to force people into a play style which I 100% disagree with. I think they may be trying to discourage it a little bit and make campers step out of their spot to shoot down a UAV, but that doesn't mean that I think it was the right change. I don't sit in the same spot the entire match unless I know my teammates are primarily watching the other routes in which case I may end up watching one primary direction a fair amount. I don't tend to run around the map near as much as hold down an area (move to a few different spots to keep the person guessing as to where I'm at). It is a very effective strategy and works quite often.
I can only hope that IW doesn't force us to run around and from my understanding they reverted back to the old style of "ghost" which hides you from UAVs if you are not running around.
It depends on the kind of camping. When you are near the objective picking off people, then its fine. Even if the player is in the outskirts i dont mind that much as long as he is helping the team someway. Meaning if he get KS then he is helping the team. There are some people that sit in there own spawn, using lmg doing nothing. After the game they complain that the other team dont allow them to get out of there spawn; its annoying because they are not trying to get out. What are we suppose to do? Are we suppose to sit in our own spawn just to let them leave. There needs to be a balance of rushers and campers, preferably more rushers because we need more people to help for the objectives.
It doesn't matter. Balanced players who know WHEN to run and gun, WHEN to camp it out, WHEN to move tactically will always have an advantage over those who force themselves into one play style or another.
It seems I can never get anyone to truly define "camping", anyways. Am I really a camper because I killed you while taking cover to reload my weapon and you walked across my path? Is it really camping to hold down an area of the map because that is your team's strategy?
Until you buy the game and system for others, you can't tell them how to play the game.
As much as I don't like campers, what I dislike more are people who aren't campers but who don't play the objective. And I get it... every team needs a slayer.... but why do I always get stuck in a obj. game with 5 slayers on my team. I can even understand staying in one spot and trying to get up to your streaks, but with the rewind time lag comp the aggressor has the advantage, plus if you slay near the obj you get more points towards it. don't like c4, use flak jacket, want to reliably get your streaks, hardline. but FOR GODS SAKE, if only one person on the team is going for the obj they aren't going to reliably get the kills that slip through the other 5 peoples cracks in the defense, help the team win, k/d doesn't matter.
The map dictates what style I'm going to play as well who I'm playing with. I'm a long to medium range player. I'll camp ads in a spot where I got good cover and the spot is high traffic. Most people cry about campers but those are the same people dying 3-5 times coming back trying to kill a person who already has the jump and is waiting on you. It was a head scratcher to me in mw3 that most people never tried to flank and come from behind me but just kept coming head on
nicedrewish brings up a great point about reloading and scoring a kill.
It hasn't happened too much in BO2, but in previous CODs I've often found myself with no ammo in either my primary or my secondary. I figure when that happens, the smart thing to do is to get out of the hot zones; go someplace where there is less traffic. That's usually a pretty long trek to take without any means to take out an opponent except a knife.
Whether or not I can get that far, the more immediate objective I have is to get someone else's weapon. I'll be perfectly frank - the easiest means of doing that is corner camping and waiting for some run and gun guy to dash by in a mad frenzy to flank my teammates. If that seems skill-less, let me explain why it does take skill ... Very simply, if you think I knife the first guy that comes by, you're definitely someone who hates campers. NEVER kill the first guy that passes unless he sees you.
Because 100% of the time that guy will have at least one teammate not far behind him. Usually there are two more opponents that are going to pass by. If you kill either of the first two, you will die before you can take out the third guy.
So, yeah. Call me a camper. I am not at all offended that you had an easy kill and missed it.
I'm sorry to all the camper haters that I play with a modicum of reality most of the time. If I kick a door in to clear a building I don't just run to the middle of the room and scream Rambo style. Offense is offense, defense is defense both are necessary for the game. I'm sure like everyone else you also hate people spawning behind you because your team is all over the place and you get shot in the back. I often anchor my teams spawn so that they can run to the middle and battle because I like long range shooting(not sniping). I get called a camper all the time but I will move across the entire back half of our spawn. Facts are that whiners are going to whine every time they die cause they think they are awesome. I only get pissed at exploiting, head glitching, QSing, etc. Now I'll talk as much shit in game as anybody, I even call out campers if I was camping but that's just fun, I don't feel the need to change the game because I die 10 times in a game once in awhile.
Camping works as a strategic ploy however it is a art. I saw what I would call a pro camper and he was amazing died maybe a few times. You all do realize that even in real world situations there is a ton of camping going on. You never see people run around a battlefield running and gunning.
Best advice I can give you:
"Adapt what is useful, reject what is useless, and add what is specifically your own.”
Play as you deem best for the win, enough said. Forget what others say, what others call you, it doesnt matter as long as you play with the intention to win, and have fun.
If players moan about camping then they are not using their brains...if someone is camping then you know where they are! So go and kill them!!!! Job done.
Its the hip firing sprayers that are more of a problem, and more importantly the CHILDREN that are gaining access to this game. This game is for 18 and over, yet there are still children screaming and shouting down the end of their microphones, that f***s me off!