Can we please get almost all the gamemodes in Hardcore!!

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Re: Can we please get almost all the gamemodes in Hardcore!!

in reply to Project-VAG-DAN

A moshpit needs to be community and developer coordinated. The BO1 HC moshpits failed because they came with no notice and were formatted poorly.

Bombs: Sabo, SnD, Demo. Terrible playlist, that was barren in a week. Sabo has been a dead game mode since COD4, it was finally cut out in BO2. SnD already had its own playlist that remained, pointless. Demo was terrible in BO1. No one wanted these game modes in HC.

Flags: HQ, CTF, DOM. These game modes had nothing in common, and were extremely popular amongst the people that played them. No one was happy that HQ and CTF were mixed, and we revolted until it was correctly reverted back to the way it was.

Moshpits can be accepted, but coordination is required. They are never coordinated, hence they are never successful. Treyarch responded in BO2 by ignoring us, maybe IW will take HC forward again.

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Re: Can we please get almost all the gamemodes in Hardcore!!

in reply to NoLifeKing29

I understand your guys' posts about the moshpit. On one hand it is nice, but if someone is just wanting to play CTF it really kindof stinks as they have to constantly back in and out of games till they get one for CTF.  The system is ultimately manipulated and makes the matchmaking much more complex and cumbersome.

Some of this could be "fixed" by changing how they create the lobbies and whether they allow people to back out of lobbies. Maybe first they make the lobby and once they get enough players (random...don't show the names) then they lock the lobby at which point the names can be shown and you can now choose between 2 game modes or "random".  If you somehow back out of that lobby (dashboarding for example) then you would be flagged as backing out and some sort of probation system could be put in place.  It's a different model and has never been COD's model so not sure if we will ever see this sort of solution. I'm not 100% convinced in my own head that it is a good solution, but it is an option they could consider (for the next game anyways...not Ghosts).

One way or another, I want them to not give Core players the only DLC playlist but instead create 2 playlists for the DLC, one for Core and one for Hardcore. They can be moshpits if so desired. It is very frustrating that these new playlists are only Core. 24x7 Nuketown is another example that was only available for Core players and not for Hardcore.

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Re: Can we please get almost all the gamemodes in Hardcore!!

in reply to LifeSong1

locking the lobby and adding in a probation system would be another failure as it was in BO2 for people will just continue to do it until too frustrated and then play something else instead. Thus lowering the playerbase because of it.

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Re: Can we please get almost all the gamemodes in Hardcore!!

in reply to Project-VAG-DAN

Some would agree with you but diehard fans of one game mode only would disagree and not tolerate it at all. Either it has is own list or nothing is the mentality of some people who play the game. For they would say it is not fair that list abc has its own lists where their favorite game mode does not and is in a mosh list.

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Re: Can we please get almost all the gamemodes in Hardcore!!

in reply to trialstardragon

you could stop with the same thing over and over you're still bringing up stuff from two years ago

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Re: Can we please get almost all the gamemodes in Hardcore!!

in reply to Maccabi

Never hurts to remind people of what happened and how and why so they don't repeat the same mistakes over again. The overall community is still not going to accept it if they try it again. People are still going to complain about it and droves.

Very few people really like or tolerate mosh play lists.

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Re: Can we please get almost all the gamemodes in Hardcore!!

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trialstardragon wrote:



Never hurts to remind people of what happened and how and why so they don't repeat the same mistakes over again. The overall community is still not going to accept it if they try it again. People are still going to complain about it and droves.



Very few people really like or tolerate mosh play lists.



its so glad you speak for "the people" nowadays , guess everyone who said they'd be happy with a mospit in bo2 were just blips then right?

Again with respect your entire argument is based around a few knee jerk reactions 2 yrs ago might be time to change the record to something more in season

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Re: Can we please get almost all the gamemodes in Hardcore!!

in reply to Maccabi

The few that sad they were out weighed by those that were not or it would not have been removed.

Nope the record still fits even today for it would happen yet again if tried. Die hard fans of singular playlists will not accept mosh lists of their playlist. Even if that is the only way to get it in the game.

which is why in most cases the mosh lists have some of the lower player numbers in the game most of the time. Because players do not really like it nearly as much as a singular list.

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Re: Can we please get almost all the gamemodes in Hardcore!!

in reply to Maccabi


i maccabi wrote:




trialstardragon wrote:



Never hurts to remind people of what happened and how and why so they don't repeat the same mistakes over again. The overall community is still not going to accept it if they try it again. People are still going to complain about it and droves.



Very few people really like or tolerate mosh play lists.



its so glad you speak for "the people" nowadays , guess everyone who said they'd be happy with a mospit in bo2 were just blips then right?



Again with respect your entire argument is based around a few knee jerk reactions 2 yrs ago might be time to change the record to something more in season


People were desperate for any new HC playlist in BO2, even a moshpit. It doesn't make moshpits anymore desirable when you are being completely ignored. Treyarch just didn't care.

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Re: Can we please get almost all the gamemodes in Hardcore!!

in reply to Wheels1AWTT

While i agree it would be nice to have all modes available in HC but the HC community is pretty small compared to Core so there would definatly need to be moshpits instead of individual playlists for each mode.

TDM

FFA

SnD

Moshpit (excluding the above modes)

DLC Moshpit (enter modes here)

Would really be all we need otherwise the small players are going to be split up even worse, this problem will be magnified on next-gen consoles with the relatively low numbers of players compared to current gen (for a while at least)

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