Not playing to win

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Not playing to win

Yesterday i joined into a match where i am on a nice win streak. It's currently me and a clanmate verse an entire clan. They are talking **** since they were with an entire team and it was just me and my friend; we start the game and i we take a nice 25 point lead because my friend got a loki within the first 50 seconds of the game. After this he and i maintained a near 2 kd for the rest of the game, but my entire team except my friend werent going for the flags, they werent even defending our homebase flag. They were doing nothing. Before i finally left my friend had 9 caps and i had 12 with each 50 + kills. BTW i dashboarded. They send me a message saying that i was fake and all my stats are fake since i dashboarded. I responded saying im not going to stay in a game where there are only 2 capturing flags.

Is it just me or is fine to leave a game; dash boarding or just simply leaving when the game is basically 2 vs 6. I think its perfectly fine, but let me know if you have different approaches. BTW we did a 4 vs 4 match against them later in dom on several maps and beat them every time the closest they got was 200-137. Also we did not use the cod sports rules.

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Re: Not playing to win

in reply to iamyourfather

i don't like dashboarding period.  i can't think of any good reason to dashboard.  if there is lag, then i back out and go to the next lobby.  what purpose does dashboarding serve?  because i'm seriously not sure what benefits there are to dashboarding...

just do what you can with what you got.  this happens to me all the time.  i typically play solo and go for the win, but if the rest of my team is not capturing flags then i go for kdr.


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Re: Not playing to win

in reply to Sledgehammer232

Dashboarding is in this game nothing counts. The loss doesnt count kd doesnt count. Im very competitive, and i dont like unfair matches. If you beat me i want it to be a fair match in personnel. And i will accept these losses and i will take all the **** they give me because they beat me fair and square, but thats not the case in this situation, imo.

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Re: Not playing to win

in reply to iamyourfather

iamyourfather wrote:



Dashboarding is in this game nothing counts. The loss doesnt count kd doesnt count. Im very competitive, and i dont like unfair matches. If you beat me i want it to be a fair match in personnel. And i will accept these losses and i will take all the **** they give me because they beat me fair and square, but thats not the case in this situation, imo.





The reality is, people who dashboard because they have poor 'personnel' on their side, never dashboard when those players are on the other side, despite that equally being unbalanced.

They just stomp them then feel uber about false win streaks.

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Re: Not playing to win

in reply to iamyourfather

so if you have an unfair advantge against the other team, do you count that win?  or do you dashboard to not count those stats?

it's a no lose-lose question, i'm also extremely competitive, that's why if i have no chance of winning the match when it's 6-1, i attempt to up my kdr and become a annoying fly on the wall and i have fun with it in a competitive way.

dashboarding like you do just makes me not take your stats seriously... as in i don't think you're as good as your stats say you are. 

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Re: Not playing to win

in reply to Sledgehammer232

I understand what you are saying, but im thinking of the point of view as the losing side. Me, personally, wouldnt care if a couple players dashboard if they were the only 2 playing the objective. Kd doesnt mean anything; my kd could be around 5 without dash boarding, but in return i would never play the objective. KD is solo stat, WL is a team stat. Toland, coming from the tdm standpoint, im sure almost everyone on your team wanted you to quit, just saying. The objective in TDM is to get kills and not die. The objective in DOM is get captures and hold the flags as long as possible, and since my team didnt do captures there is no point of staying. Its just wasting my time, if they wanted to get kills instead whatever let them stay, but im not going to suffer from there solo minded playstyle. I know my stats arent completely legit. I'll be the first to say so. Puertorican guy, i 100% agree with you, and thankyou for understanding even though you might not agree with my reasons since you never really said.

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Re: Not playing to win

in reply to iamyourfather

That's cool if you don't agree with me.  If you are playing for fun, I'm fine with that.  It's what I do as well.  But, can I ask a few questions?

Have you ever been annoyed at joining hopeless matches in the last minute?

Have you ever been annoyed at having full lobbies at the start of the match and looking up two minutes in and seeing you now have three teammates?

Have you ever been annoyed at those three empty slots not getting filled?

Have you ever been annoyed when you are having a really good game and you get a host migration?

Have you ever been annoyed by lag?

If you have, then you have to realize that dashboarding either causes, or exacerbates all of these issues.  And when lots of people do it, lot's of problems with the network happens.  From a playability standpoint, your dashboarding causes more time to be wasted by everyone than you will save.  There are enough normal problems with playability that we players shouldn't make worse by not simply finishing the match.  It's in your own interest time-wise to do this.  Back out of the lobby then, if you want, but there is also another reason that you should stay sometimes.  Here's why.

My first match last night was my first MP match since the first day the gane came out.  I have been playing Squads because it's new and kind of interesting.  But, I've have been playing COD for a very long time and I know what I'm doing.  I play best when I get used to the lobby.  How my teamates are going to act and how my enemies are going to act.  Doesn't matter what game mode.  I play whatever I feel like that night.  I wish I could play Headquarters, but it's not in this one.  Keeping lobbies together makes for better, quicker games that are more fun.  If you keep lobby hopping, I think you miss out.  I may have had a hard time in the first match, but I knew that I would get my rhythm down and I did by the end.  I didn't have a negative game the rest of last night, was in the top three most times, and won 80% percent of the matches.  So, judging a player by a half a match doesn't really reflect what that player can actually do.  That's why I don't quit and don't want others to quit.  Everyone has a bad match from time to time.

All this goes back to playability for everyone.  I'm not asking you to agree with me, all I'm asking is to think about it and ask yourself if your dashboarding is doing more harm than good.

Peace

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Re: Not playing to win

in reply to iamyourfather

Quiting is quiting.  Plain and simple.

My first game last night, I went 3-12 in TDM.  I started out 0-11 and just couldn't hit the broad side of a barn.  I haven't played a match that bad in years and, yep, I was embarrassed, but I didn't quit on my team.  Did I lose the game for everybody?  Yep, I blew chunks.  Said my apologies and went positive the rest of the night, winning most games and being in the top three mostly.

The thing I am proudest of from last night was that I didn't quit.  Because believe me, the rage was building.

If you dashboard once, you've probably done it a hundred times, so no I wouldn't view your stats as legitimate.  In my mind, your winning streak ended last night no matter what the leaderboards say.

Sometimes the truth is harsh.

Peace

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Re: Not playing to win

in reply to COTIARA

i feel ur pain..last night i got into a lobby where one guy had no caps and he went 45-8 and we lost...i went 11-14 with 6 caps..we could of won the game...we had the lead but the enemy team took 2 flags and no one wanted to help to cap...i think more people would play the obj if infinity ward changes the point streak system to give everyone who caps a point to the point streak instead of only to the 1st guy who hops on the flag

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Re: Not playing to win

in reply to COTIARA

In most regards I completely agree with you, if you're being hammered and flat out beat, stick it out and take your licks.. that's how you become better. If you're dragging your whole team down, however, that's basically the same as drunk driving your car full of buddies into an oncoming big rig because you are presently having an issue - in my mind though they are vastly different in logical terms, it amounts to the same thing in terms of what sort of person you are. I will never drag my team into a sore loss just because, for whatever bloody reason, I am playing like crap that night.. or just perhaps that game. If I see I am literally the only, or at least primary, reason we're presently suffering an oncoming loss, it's my responsibility to back my ass out and sit quietly in a lobby in personal time-out until they finish and pick me back up (if they do). There have been many instances where I've had a horrible night and I glance at the match board to find I'm 2-15+ negative - at that moment I realize nobody else on my team is more than 3-5 negative, so I'm the only reason they're losing a match... I drop my ass back to the lobby to sit, they pick me up 5-6 minutes later, having WON what would have been a flat out loss otherwise. I played the part of a GOOD teammate and bailed out of that car and let someone sober take the wheel so only I was to suffer.

Now that's not always the case and on some of those I see I'm one of two or three fellow mates creating our lost match, and then I will completely change tactics and avoid primary confrontation - I'll play a more auxiliary role within the team to both give myself a couple extra kills and protect teammates, and drastically reduce the number of further deaths I acquire lol

But like I say, if you're the only reason causing a team to lose, you need to walk your ass out of that game and sit alone in a lobby for a bit - take a breather, a little break, but don't for one minute think anyone on your team is going to appreciate having you around when the only reason they're losing is you're playing like crap on that chosen day. To me, the best team member is the one who recognizes the problem and takes steps to resolve it quickly, competitive or not. PERIOD.

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