Possibility to include a new statistic in Call Of Duty? What does the community/Activision think?

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Re: Possibility to include a new statistic in Call Of Duty? What does the community/Activision think?

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Would those principles help? Not really since this is not real life and no bearing on real life or what people do outside of the game at all.


Is not the rage quitter's experience real when he is beaten so badly and gets so frustrated as to make him quit something he was trying to enjoy?  Is not the cheater's reason for cheating real when he feels he needs to pretend to be more than he really is?  You are trying to separate the inseparable; that is, human emotions and attitudes are taken anywhere they are, into anything they do. 

Monopoly is also not a "sport", are you saying it's ok for someone to flip the board off the table if he lands on Boardwalk full of hotels?

I would dare to say what people do in a game has a lot of bearing on how they conduct themselves in real life.  If you're a rager in a game, you're probably a rager in other aspects of your life.  If you're a quitter in a game, you probably don't finish what you start in real life.  If you're a cheater in a game, you're probably that dude that copies from your neighbor's test.

Sportmentship is integrity, honor and humility.  Internet or not, either you have them or you don't.  And if mama didn't teach you, sports might have.  

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Re: Possibility to include a new statistic in Call Of Duty? What does the community/Activision think?

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There is no sportsmanship in video games since they are not a sport. the only reason it exists in normal real life sports is because of the referee. Cod will never have a referee in each match.

No the rage quitters experience is no more real than the one he just quit on. Since the game is not real to begin with. Actually you can very easily separate the two. Emotions do not always have a place in games. Nor should one persons or one groups emotions be more important than anothers ever. Toward the monopoly game.. is it fair.. maybe not.. but can anything really be done about it.. no except choosing not to play with them again and not requiring someone else to do it for you. No how a person is in game has nothing on what they are in real life. I rage at the game at times but things in real life that would upset some people I tend to ignore and not even blink an eye over it. Not all cheaters in games cheat in real life. You are making too many grand assumptions about people based upon how the interact in a video game which is not real or life and death.

Honor has no place amongst video games for they are not real life. Integrity means nothing in video games where you can be the good guy or the bad guy at a whim. You don't have to be the good guy just because someone else says or thinks so. Humility has no place in video games for again they are not real. You are trying to bring real life morals and ethics to a place where they do not belong for this is not real life. This is fantasy where anyone can be anything they chose no matter what anyone else thinks or feels or wants them to be. And by doing so does not make them a bad person in normal life either.

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Re: Possibility to include a new statistic in Call Of Duty? What does the community/Activision think?

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Honor has no place....Integrity means nothing....Humility has no place....



With that attitude, it's no wonder the game's full of trolls, cheaters, dashboarders, quitters, sore losers, etc.

With that attitude, why not?  Internet anonymity excuses all despicable behavior.

Forget accountability to others, how about just to your own conscience.

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Re: Possibility to include a new statistic in Call Of Duty? What does the community/Activision think?

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My conscience is clear in what I do or how I play. For I do not answer to anyone but the devs in that regard ever. No player ever has any say in how I play or what I play as or with or why. Until that player buys my game. buys my console, buys my internet, buys my electric they have no say what so ever in how I chose to play a video game for fun and never will. I am not accountable to anyone else. I dont have to play by their rules or ethics or morals or standards and not my fault if they cannot understand or accept that either. They get to chose how they play and their game play alone, no one else's. They dont like it.. that is what the avoid feature is for on XBL. Not for some developers to hold their hand for them so they don't have too.

The accountability rest in the players that do not mark those they don't like as avoid. Not in the developers to make a special punishment or matchmaking system so they don't have too.

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Re: Possibility to include a new statistic in Call Of Duty? What does the community/Activision think?

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No stats lead to rage quitting, b1tching, and boosting. They should make stats only available to your friend list, so people don't have to worry about insecure little morons taking jabs at them.

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Re: Possibility to include a new statistic in Call Of Duty? What does the community/Activision think?

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They should make stats only available to your friend list, so people don't have to worry about insecure little morons taking jabs at them.


Wouldn't you be just as insecure if you're bothered by the insecure little morons taking jabs at you.

So what if it might encourage stat padding.  Fact of the matter is the vast majority of players don't pad their stats.  Why let a few bad apples dictate what information should be available to the rest of us. 

Moreover, transparency, not secrecy, is more conducive to eliminating stat padding.  For example, as mentioned above, if we had a quit/complete ratio, it certainly would discourage some from padding.  How proud can you be of your KD if your quit/complete ratio of 1:0.2 is there for everyone to see. 

As far as naming and shaming goes, if anyone ever deserved a little shame, it's the stat padders.  They'll get no sympathy from me.

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Re: Possibility to include a new statistic in Call Of Duty? What does the community/Activision think?

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there is no real reason that is has to be made available to everyone to begin with. Just play the game for fun and go from there. Too many people take the stats in this game too serious. I really wish they would allow stats to be hidden if wanted or only shared with friends/clan members or no one at all.

name and shame borders on slander and harassment which is against the xbl tos which is why it is not a good thing to have a stat that may lead to this.

for those that only care about their k/d they would not care about that stat nor lose any pride in their k/d because it was there.

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Re: Possibility to include a new statistic in Call Of Duty? What does the community/Activision think?

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Just play the game for fun and go from there.  Too many people take the stats in this game too serious.


I won't argue with you on this one.  It's a game afterall and lets not take it so serioulsly where it is no longer fun. 


name and shame borders on slander and harassment which is against the xbl tos which is why it is not a good thing to have a stat that may lead to this.


Let me correct myself a little here.  I don't mean that the cheaters/DB/quitters should be actively sought out and named and shamed.

What I was trying to say is that, if we had a quit/complete ratio, it would make it easier to identify these guys when they're in the lobby.  More importantly, it would discourage stat padding because the padders will know that we'll know they're not on the up and up.

I have to be telling falsehoods about a person for me to slander him; truth is always a defense against slander.  Bare stats don't lie.    

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Re: Possibility to include a new statistic in Call Of Duty? What does the community/Activision think?

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I agree with the idea of being a good sport ... but the Little League analogy probably wasn't wise - I played on the worst team in the league when I was a kid and I don't recall 150 to 2 blowouts being allowed.

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Re: Possibility to include a new statistic in Call Of Duty? What does the community/Activision think?

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I agree with the idea of being a good sport ... but the Little League analogy probably wasn't wise - I played on the worst team in the league when I was a kid and I don't recall 150 to 2 blowouts being allowed.


What a better situation than a blowout (lets say 25-0 in Tee-Ball) to teach young people how to win, and how to lose.  I'm talking about sportsmanship in general, and sportsmanship is relevant from Tee-Ball to Senior Softball Leagues.  LL was just an example.  No one's too young or old to learn to be graceful. 

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