Cheaters - How Do you Know Hacker from Legit?

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Re: Cheaters - How Do you Know Hacker from Legit?

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Somebody goes 37-0 in a TDM match.

spacerock27
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Re: Cheaters - How Do you Know Hacker from Legit?

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Here is an obvious one: [Removed by Moderator] ^AH

I'm going to come out with a book with pics like this called "where's cheat-o" and you have to find them so I can make my money back on this game

Well since moderator removed my pic link the KDR by player#1 for the entire match was 59 kills and 9 deaths.

player #2(that I speak of in below post) KDR was 24 kills 28 deaths

SeeVee
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Re: Cheaters - How Do you Know Hacker from Legit?

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Where's Cheat-O Chapter 2 [Removed by Moderator] ^AH

OK, so played another match after last post and behold there is someone this round that's got a crazy KDR and so happens they also appeared in the crowd in "where's cheat-o chapter 1" in my previous post.

I'm not so concerned about rank as people can have more than one soldier they play but KDR is a total dead give away I believe for most of the cheaters... they give themselves away because they get greedy and the KDR shows it.

Since mod removed my pic link player #2 (in my previous post) was normal KDR no cheat suspected... I see same player in game today and KDR was 47 kills and 6 deaths for whole match. Totally cheating!

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SeeVee
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Re: Cheaters - How Do you Know Hacker from Legit?

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There are brainless hackers that don't disguise their KD, and there's sly hackers who don't obliterate with KD.

Watch the killcam. A hacker will NEVER walk past you, or not see you coming.

I play Squad Assault and I don't get hackers. But every 2nd player's total Squad is prestige hacked.

SnapOn1
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Re: Cheaters - How Do you Know Hacker from Legit?

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I have begun to say to suspected hackers "dude turn down your aim bot it is really obvious you're cheating," and a lot of the time the dumb asses say "oh crap," or "me?" they give themselves up haha.

e_moffett
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Re: Cheaters - How Do you Know Hacker from Legit?

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Reading all the posts before mine, I realized that the OP may be on to something. There is a lot of people who may be using incorrect ways of checking for these individuals.

Allow me to elaborate. I've been playing COD since MW2. Over this period of time, I've clocked about 90 days total across the 5 games combined together (20 per game, 10 so far in ghosts). This amount of time logged has allowed me to get quite good at the game. If I see you running in a building with windows and am on level ground, I can (semi)effectively track your movement through the thin wall. I do occasionally have a game that makes me appear to be an MLG pro (not all the time though). Also, KD ratio can be easily bumped in this game through playing games such as infected (common to finish 5-1).

Now don't get me wrong, I'm not in your lobby, and I don't know the exact situation. I'm also not saying that the guy wallbanging you from a half map away isn't cheating. I just want to make sure that people aren't dropping the "cheater/modded/hacker" callouts based solely on an experienced player doing their thing.

The tl;dr version of this...

Yes, it is hard to tell who is cheating. I feel though that we should not jump to conclusions that someone who may be having a great game is in fact cheating.

Much respect to the posters before me.

gramthenOOb
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Re: Cheaters - How Do you Know Hacker from Legit?

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This article I came across today explains a lot of what I've been posting especially when it come to frame rate and input lag (see page 3) - Debunking the Myths of Graphics Card Performance - Tom’s Hardware Until patch #3 where SLI Strobing and ADS Stuttering (lag) was corrected by also using my graphical settings which btw disable all AA, before that time to me the game was unplayable and aggravating to say the least.

Hardware and connectivity all count in addition to map, spawn, team, etc knowledge and skill levels.

People should test their reaction times:

Visual - Human Benchmark - Reaction Time Test ; mine were in the high 180's ms

Auditory - Cognitive tests: Auditory Reaction Time ; close to the same

Momba1
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Re: Cheaters - How Do you Know Hacker from Legit?

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It's not that hard to determine the cheaters, They never change direction and find an enemy at the outer edge of their screen. Anytime an enemy is spotted from a change of direction they are always spotted almost dead center screen if not dead center.

After awhile it becomes very obvious of the missing (finding enemies at the outer edge of the screen directly after a direction change) it should happen as often as anything else in the game. But not for cheaters using targeting systems to find most of the enemies, "it rarely ever happens" (every enemy found after a direction change is CENTER SCREEN and never off to the edge of the screen) this is how you spot them.

Mr_Pistolero
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Re: Cheaters - How Do you Know Hacker from Legit?

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its pretty obvious to spot someone using a wall hack and aim bot

ConnorMacleod84
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Re: Cheaters - How Do you Know Hacker from Legit?

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No, not really. First I play mostly DOM and once you have two flags the enemy, unless someone (or multiple players) on your team is(are) 'pushing too far' into the enemies spawns i.e. flipping them, are very predictable i.e fixed. Further if a Flag is either changing color and/or the announcer is stating 'losing B' then obviously an enemy is on 'B' in that example; a smart player is going to pre-fire and/or wall bag if the enemy is behind cover; no hacks needed.

Perimeters vs Middle Map, in TDM a smart player generally runs the perimeter to reduce a 360-degree angle of defense/attack into a 180-degree angle of defense/attack.

I very rarely see a player with an Aim-Bot and the reason is clear those players are obvious and most a Wall isn't even need since they snap to your hit-boxes and they create an impenetrable wall of death. In either Core or for that matter Hardcore they're both rare and extremely easy to spot.

Kill then be Killed, if you kill an enemy then after a respawn the same player easily kills you even if you're 'hidden' there's nothing unusual about that at all; no cheat is necessary.

Clan/Team call outs, if you've ever played with a full team and/or clan it's typical that campers have a very short lifespan and the good clans/teams assign points to cover and if killed immediately call out your location for clean-up.

Momba1
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