I'm sad to admit: I've reported some Xbone player for cheating.

Ghosts Xbox One

This really pains me, but I just cannot take there are no hacks in Xbox One anymore.

The first weeks I saw very similar situation from some players to PC wallhackers, however everything here looks very organic, so I bite my tongue.

But for know the amount of position guessing and sudden extra health are really bothering me.

I'll start saying: I play CoD either with perk that leaves you with no running sound, or crouched, or both. With that said, I've been position chased with the aim of someone else with Dead Silence AND crouched, and I don't mean "possible causality" but total knowledge I was right there with no eye contact and me with Off the Grid since It's an operation I want to complete for the female uniform.

Some example Killcams:

Guy is running with a shotgun, stops running turn around to get his aim right into my "YOU" sign that shows your position before you were killed, however what he is staring at is a wall. Suddenly decides to backtrack and turn around a corner, BANG!!! buckshot in my face.

This one first three killcams, hes running, stops, ADS, shoots, I die. Now this fourth cam, he's sprinting and after turning on a corner he faces my YOU sign behind the wall in front of him, he stops sprinting, crouches and places himself in a corner, aim down, I appear on his screen (I repeat it again in case this wasn't clear: crouched and with Dead Silence and Off the Grid equipped), shoots, I die, he starts sprinting again while reloading with On The Go and Marathon...

Camper is camping in Warhawk top room in DOM nearby A; I enter the room, see a gun on the floor but no body, I turn back and head to the exit, and get shoot down on the back by the one looking at me from the wall sign you can step on in from of the room, since I entered the room, funny fact here: his aim always on me, to kill me he just strafed and ADS.

Guy with SMG is recovering health while reloading, cancels the reload as he quickly turns and shoots to a wall with the YOU sign right above it; takes his time reloading, two seconds later I enter thru the door right next to the bullet marks he left "accidentally" and, of course, I die.

Me and two guys run to the starting point of the enemy team right from the beginning of the game, one guy pops in front of us from medium range; I ADS with my sniper rifle while looking at my two partners shooting at him; I take my time aiming at his chest wondering how's he still alive, shoot, no hitmark, I see his reloading animation while I wait for the aim to fall quiet on him again, shoot again, nothing at all, I get a bit desperate and make a third shot before full steady aim 'coz this guy is about to shoot at me, still nothing. I die to him, just like the two guys who were on my sides. This guy was standing still the whole time and my sight was close enough to see his ghost mask and his reloading animation (imagine how easy to aim at his chest was). In the kill cam he does receive two hits with really weird timing between each other while the two guys on my sides were alive, yet survives in red, being the stand still target of a three men shooting fest... So he starts the match being 3/0.

I dare anyone to say these were lag issues, 'coz I got many more of these type of crap.

I'm also sick of watching people get scores like 30/4 every single match of TDM and their KDA being 1.0~ and their win ratio around the 80%, This is one of the things the piss me the most, because only explanation for this is as they get a 3~5 streak of TDM man-huting team carrying without camping not even once but they compensate it with a 4/30 score somewhere else when it's totally irrational having such a good score when it comes to gun fights but sucking badly in apparently everything else. Like I name it: they turn on and off their gaming skillz: hacks.

Fortunately the number of these kind of suckers is pretty small compared with PC, so I might still won something migrating to Xbox One. But it saddens me deeply keep seeing these kind of crap still around. I really hope Activision cheating team looks upon these people, because they completely ruin the game as whatever team has them won since loadout selection. Also notice that these people always comes in teams, even tho they rename themselves (I know this because a guy apparently didn't want to change one part of his name while his hacker companion was with his normal name). Another thing: most of them join in mid match, is really difficult to see them joining the lobby; they join in mid game, end up first in scoreboard, stay in lobby for some matches, then back off with his teammate(s) so fast sometimes its not possible to select their names from the lobby. Typical team boosting in my opinion.

Ozhm
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I haven't seen anything near to what I saw on PS3's CoD's. Also, keep in mind that the spawns can still be REALLY cheap. And the extra health is due to Flak jacket. It's saved me countless times.

ZvErS
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I'm not sure you replied to the proper thread lol.

I don't use lethals due to my operations not requiring equipment but lots of perks; but what I call extra health is literally extra health: four marks at SMG range, no kill; no obstacles in between, hitmarks with sound and everything, displaying in the killer's killcam, yet he is alive at four hitmarks and I die in 2~3 like almost everyone.

In the final example I wrote, the guy didn't take a single hit from a perfectly aimed sniper rifle, twice, not to mention the two guys on my sides shooting at him even before he stopped moving in front of us. Killcam showed he received only two hitmarks, it was so fast I couldn't tell from which source, but the three of us where alive, then he suddenly stop taking damage when he was about to die. First 60 seconds of the match, he got first blood; are you going to tell me it was oracle too ?

Ozhm
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I've shot at many walls due to a friendly Oracle or should I say 'wall-hack'. If you miss the "enemy oracle activated" notification (which you don't get if you die at the same time) then this can be easily mistaken for a wall hack.  There should be a way of telling the entire time if there is a Oracle running. Actually, correct that.. there shouldn't be an Oracle at all.. that and Squadmate. Both of these can be spammed by a team and completely turn a match into a joke.

Tactics74
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I was thinking Oracle as well since Off the Grid doesn't counter it.  He'd have to be running Blind Eye for that counter.  I know that I've wall banged a few folks myself when I've seen the image appear and they didn't pop the corner right away.  I don't know that the OP hasn't encountered actual cheating but that would be my first thought to explain what was happening.  Also even with crouch walking depending on where you are on the map (ie moving through tall grass) your footsteps may not make a sound but your brushing past the grass will.  So it's still possible that someone heard him.  Although by the description I think it more likely that they saw him via an Oracle.

phxs72
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Oracle is an anti-campers tool, not a killing machine aider. It scan time is so bad, if you want to know someone, you know is nearby, position you must wait a few seconds and be facing the proper place.

Here I'm talking about people that cannot get one single "legit" kill cam in the whole match. You pop with a 14 kills support streak when I'm talking of situations where the guys I reported where all sending us Trinity Rockets and Battle Hinds like no tomorrow at the first 9 kills they get, and repeatedly at very 9 kills past that, except when they get one of their 4 or 5 deaths. And yeah, someone else in their team could easily had Oracle equipped, and yeah, I could had missed the callout, and yeah, I could have not see the Oracle scan in the 5 seconds time frame, every single time. But that's a bit of too many "could"s for me, sorry if I don't take it.

Ozhm
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Oracle? riiiite, yep, I missed the oracle callout every single time when no one had the kills to call it and no one used it in the previous matches, I'm so dumb.

BTW did you know that enemy oracle shows in your killcam ? Yeah, if you were spotted by oracle within the 5 seconds your killcam shows it, weren't my examples clear enough to tell the guy spotted me without eye contact inside the 5 seconds killcam reply ?.

Also, you cannot post videos here, and the Kinetic gives me the creeps to record stuff since the time it signed me out when I said "Xbox Snap". But if you want videos of people with 1.0~ kill ratio and go 25/5 for four consecutive matches, sure, I'll toss you my YouTube site later on.

Oh and, in those five examples I referred only three people.

Ozhm
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if you think people with a 1.0 or below that happen to have 4 good matches in a row are hackers or cheaters do everyone a favor and please ask your team if they noticed what you claim to of happened. because honestly most people will agree kill cams are BS looking at someone's screen or game play through your internet will never be the same thing that happened due to difference in everyone's internet. to you in game they somehow manged to turn on you like a pro in the kill cam it doesn't even show you shoot everyone has there own story of something that looks like a hack, bug, cheat, glitch, or lag comp and all be honest over 60% is BS and just people crying because they aren't as good or someone just womped them due to a hosting issue

Bubbakush1
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Kill cams are server based, which means they show what the server saw, not what you saw.

And again, I'm not talking about "people with a 1.0 or below that happen to have 4 good matches in a row" but to people that I see twice a day for each streak of 3~5 matches and they literally go 25/5~ each match by getting killcams like I described.

Now let's assume kill cams are totally wrong. What''s the difference ? they are still spotting out of nowhere, even if I didn't see the true part of the story.

Instead of trying to explain why people can have good scores for a few matches an a kinda bad record, read the killcams I posted and please explain me why did people do what they did if they couldn't see me in any way nor hear me neither ?

You see: you have Marathon, On the Go, an SMG and you suddenly stop to camp for a second and wow! you got a kill! No oracle, no luck, no lag. running stopped, waited for me, killed me, started running again. It wasn't even a camping spot, he just crouched and back a bit while aiming at the corner of the wall where I was going to appear.

The one in the room in warhawk, aim steady on me behind the wall, I turn back, he strafes to take aim on me thru the window, shoots me from behind. Let's assume he stopped caring if he was visible to the rest of the people (because he was standing still looking at a wall, was an easy target if anyone saw him), just to check there was no one coming to catch him from behind, 100% luck he finds someone checking the room, and just turned back when he checked ?

And everyone knows people tend to panic and shoot to the nearest wall even if they need to cancel their reload, rite ?

But of course, killcams are crap, we will never know what really happened... [/sarcasm]

Ozhm
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kill cams are server based if your on a server other wise its up to hosts connection making them unreliable and BS seeing as unless your on a dedi players pings will very tremendously more than they would on a dedi.

as to what you describe could be multiple things

1. someone saw you running to that area because you know there are 5 other guys on his team that can say dude someones behind you.

2. dumb luck.

3. really bad lag comp.

4. your not as good as you think you are.

as for canceling a reload ya shooting, knifing, or sprinting are all things people due to cancel a reload

Bubbakush1
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