10 Replies Latest reply: Mar 17, 2011 2:53 PM by A Ninjakitty RSS

    I just can't get in my head,that...

    CrayHD
      ...IW back in 2007 was able to deliver us a engine based on 60FPS, and Dice in 2011, 4 years later isn't.
      Why?
      I just don't get it, I have no idea of programming, but it they were able to develop one in 2007, why isn't Dice able to built Frosbite 2.0 on a 60FPS?
        • Re: I just can't get in my head,that...
          Frostbite uses destructible environments, IW 3.0 didn't.

          When you have a map that changes as you play, it's much more difficult to keep the framerate up. Plus, you have vehicles, so... yeah.
          • Re: I just can't get in my head,that...
            Otherwise, I do not know.

            One of the great technical limitations of consoles.
            • Re: I just can't get in my head,that...
              Because IW used to be the greatest, nobody could compete with them, then they made MW2.
              • Re: I just can't get in my head,that...
                CrayHD
                Yes, I know, at all BF has so much more to offer than COD, but I mean the game would be a revolution if it would be based on a 60FPS engine, and now 4 years later, I just hoped they do...
                • Re: I just can't get in my head,that...
                  schmambuman

                  CrayHD wrote:

                   

                  ...IW back in 2007 was able to deliver us a engine based on 60FPS, and Dice in 2011, 4 years later isn't.
                  Why?
                  I just don't get it, I have no idea of programming, but it they were able to develop one in 2007, why isn't Dice able to built Frosbite 2.0 on a 60FPS?



                  IW had much smaller maps, which also allowed them to have greater detail on these maps. If you are talking about BC2, the fact that they have to calculate the trajectory of bullets as they soar through the air, as well as gravity, instead of just shooting lasers, is also probably a factor.
                  • Re: I just can't get in my head,that...
                    BLAME_ACTIVISION
                    It has something to do with the display resolution and how many things the engine can do the same time, DICE engine has destructable buildings which takes lot of cpu/gpu power.

                    here are some stats from the CoD & BF resolutions

                    Playstation3:
                    Battlefield: Bad Company = 1280x720 (no AA)
                    Battlefield: Bad Company 2 = 1280x720 (no AA)
                    Battlefield 1943 = 1280x720 (no AA)
                    Call of Duty 3 (screenshot) ~1088x624 (2xAA)
                    Call of Duty: Black Ops = 960x544 (2xAA)
                    Call of Duty: Modern Warfare = 1024x600 (2xAA)
                    Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 = 1024x600 (2xAA)
                    Call of Duty: World at War = 1024x600 (2x AA)

                    Xbox360:
                    Battlefield: Bad Company = 1280x720 (no AA)
                    Battlefield: Bad Company 2 = 1280x720 (no AA)
                    Battlefield 1943 = 1280x720 (no AA)
                    Call of Duty 3 = 1040x624 (2xAA)
                    Call of Duty: Black Ops = 1040x608 (2xAA)
                    Call of Duty: Modern Warfare = 1024x600 (2xAA)
                    Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 = 1024x600 (2xAA)
                    Call of Duty: World at War = 1024x600 (2x AA)
                    Call of Duty: Classic = 1280x720 (4xAA)

                    You can clearly see that CoD games have sub-hd resolution to make the game run at higher framerate, i think that Battlefield has also V-Sync locked at 30fps, by this means it could "maybe" get more frames per second, maybe 40fps but its locked at 30fps (not really sure about that).
                    • Re: I just can't get in my head,that...
                      killswitchsoldier
                      Did you know that OP's name is Cool Story Bro! ?

                      Check that link:

                      http://img96.imageshack.us/i/coolstorybroe.jpg/

                      Forums win?
                      • Re: I just can't get in my head,that...
                        CrayHD

                        KillswitchSoldier wrote:

                         

                        Did you know that OP's name is Cool Story Bro! ?

                        Check that link:

                        http://img96.imageshack.us/i/coolstorybroe.jpg/

                        Forums win?




                        I think the forum just blow my cover, lol.
                        • Re: I just can't get in my head,that...
                          killswitchsoldier
                          Dude, everytime you post a new topic it says Cool story bro! xD

                          (no offense intended!)

                          Anyways, on topic:

                          I still think Battlefield 3 looks pr0n. Although DICE ripped the people off with Medal Of Honor big time. I'll wait until the final product is out and decide wether I'm getting it or not.
                          • Re: I just can't get in my head,that...
                            A Ninjakitty

                            Yoda429 wrote:

                             

                            Because IW used to be the greatest, nobody could compete with them, then they made MW2.


                            And even MW2 was a great game except for a few major flaws. Take out Commando and OMA DC Tubes and it would have been on the same level as CoD4 and WaW.