9 Replies Latest reply: Jun 26, 2014 12:53 PM by LiutenantTrillanes RSS

    Wow! Great Call of Duty Game Again.  Latest Trailer!

      It's been confirmed that your character can break the laws of physics!  You can now shoot a gun in space, and not going fly backwards a mile!

       

      Great job guys.  Glad you did your research this time around.

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          maccabi

          TakeoIsBeast wrote:

           

          It's been confirmed that your character can break the laws of physics!  You can now shoot a gun in space, and not going fly backwards a mile!

           

          Great job guys.  Glad you did your research this time around.

           

          Lets see first off all modern ammunition has it's own oxidizer so it's quite easy to fire a gun in the vacuum of space , secondly you wouldn't  "fly backwards a mile" . Interestingly you cited physics , the law you are referring to would be newtons third law you know the one that has the equal and opposite force bit you obviously are hinting at. See here's the thing While you are 100% correct firing the gun what you obviously missed in your research, was to take into account the mass differences between the bullet and the person firing once you take that into consideration what you said would be fly backwards a mile.. is in fact just a few cm's a second.

           

          If you wanted to make a case for physics here then you could've gone for - there's no sound in space so no booms, bangs ect from guns and explosions (any alien fan could've told you that as in space no one can hear you scream )

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              cranium2001

              maccabi wrote:

               

              TakeoIsBeast wrote:

               

              It's been confirmed that your character can break the laws of physics!  You can now shoot a gun in space, and not going fly backwards a mile!

               

              Great job guys.  Glad you did your research this time around.

               

              Lets see first off all modern ammunition has it's own oxidizer so it's quite easy to fire a gun in the vacuum of space , secondly you wouldn't  "fly backwards a mile" . Interestingly you cited physics , the law you are referring to would be newtons third law you know the one that has the equal and opposite force bit you obviously are hinting at. See here's the thing While you are 100% correct firing the gun what you obviously missed in your research, was to take into account the mass differences between the bullet and the person firing once you take that into consideration what you said would be fly backwards a mile.. is in fact just a few cm's a second.

               

              If you wanted to make a case for physics here then you could've gone for - there's no sound in space so no booms, bangs ect from guns and explosions (any alien fan could've told you that as in space no one can hear you scream )

              Amen, halleluiah and it's a game o.p..

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                Sorry to tell you buddy, but you're wrong.

                 

                While it wouldn't be a literal mile (was just using hyperbole there), the distance a fired gun would propel you in space is significant.  Essentially, without any resistance in space, firing the gun would both make you spin erratically in circles and would certainly propel you backwards more than a few centimeters at a time.  Hell, astronauts exert less force with their arms and can go farther than that.

                 

                The point of the matter is that any way you look at it, shooting a gun in space expecting no negative effects is asinine.

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                    maccabi

                    TakeoIsBeast wrote:

                     

                    Sorry to tell you buddy, but you're wrong.

                     

                    While it wouldn't be a literal mile (was just using hyperbole there), the distance a fired gun would propel you in space is significant.  Essentially, without any resistance in space, firing the gun would both make you spin erratically in circles and would certainly propel you backwards more than a few centimeters at a time.  Hell, astronauts exert less force with their arms and can go farther than that.

                     

                     

                    i didnt say a few cms a time i said a few cms a sec which sorry to break it to you is a fact, if you're going to correct me at least have the decency to read what i wrote first . If you're going to use hyperbole probably best not to use it when trying to argue science ..a discipline that doesn't work well with hyperbole.

                    As for spinning backwards yes you're correct here but again the rate at which you spun would still be the same speed as you went backwards after firing the gun.

                     

                    Did it ever occur to you the backpacks may contain small gas jets to maintain position?

                     

                    TakeoIsBeast wrote:

                     

                     

                    The point of the matter is that any way you look at it, shooting a gun in space expecting no negative effects is asinine.

                     

                    what more asinine than complaining something in a video game trailer isn't possible...

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                  otisman666

                  What video are you looking at?  Link?

                   

                  But if we are discussing the concept of firing a gun in space and the effects it would have on the person firing it, then there would be a number of factors that need to be taken into account, gravitation pull being the most significant.  But in the end, it could be possible for the person firing a gun in space to go much more then a mile, as there is no force of friction to slow their progress.  Now as Macc states, it might not be super fast, but once a velocity is reached, it will not be reduced unless there is force stopping it.  In addition Beast has a point, if fired anywhere but the center of the mass, the mass would pin-wheel as well.

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                    xThatTributeGuyx

                    Alright guys, here is the thing with the every action has an equal and opposite reaction thing. You have to take the mass of each object into effect. Now, the human body has much more mass than a bullet. Now, while the force that propels the bullet is great, that force is forward, and the force that gets sent back is the force of the bullet trying to push back, which is small. So, the force that would be pushing back on you would be small. Not to mention that I am sure that they would be wearing suits that have propulsion systems, meaning they could stabilize themselves the entire time. You argument makes absolutely no sense because you don't full understand the laws of physics. By your understanding of physics, even firing a gun on earth should knock some one on their ass.

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                        TheSpider93

                        1. You just said it yourself, equal and opposite reaction. So the forward force is not greater than the backward force, they're equal.

                        2. A single round maybe not have a huge effect, but since when has CoD been about single rounds? Fire off 30 rounds on full auto in space and you certainly will move backwards at a noticeable pace.

                        3. A suit propulsion system works on gas jets. To counteract the bullet, the jets would have to provide the same momentum backwards as the bullet provides forwards. Gas is a lot lighter than a bullet, so it would have to have an insanely high velocity. You would also have to have it on the back of your shoulder, in line with where the butt of the rifle meets your body. Otherwise pinwheeling, as stated above.

                        4. Firing a gun on earth *does* knock you on your ass. Unless you're bracing yourself for it. If you stood with your feet perfectly together and fired anything bigger than a .22 you would fall over. In space there's no earth to brace against, no solid shooting stance.

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                        Dforums

                        So a video game character is possibly capable of breaking the law of physics.  *brain explodes* NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

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                          LiutenantTrillanes

                          Yeah. I believe you're referring to the campaign mission right? I can't really explain much about that brother. In my opinion, it's just a game and it's up to you on how you enjoy it. Players have their own perspective to keep it like, "make the game as realistic as possible." In my opinion, I don't bother that much since I'm more inclined game play wise or story wise. If you wish, you may address that feedback with the developers.