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    Why wii u is better then ps4 xbone

    wiiucastiel

      This could have been Nintendo’s year — should have been Nintendo’s year.


      And in a sense, it was Nintendo’s year, though it took some doing to get here. No one was supposed to buy the company’s shiny aqua-blue or whatchamacallit-black 3DS when it arrived back in February 2011 with a clamshell thud. Handheld gaming was doomed, proclaimed analysts like smug armchair oracles. Who’d want a bulky plastic pocket-brick that played games and games alone when they could play on their slender all-in-one smartphone — a device on which games exist in a kind of superabundant app-store-verse and typically sell for a buck or less?



      When 3DS sales tanked in those early months — before Nintendo wised up, dropped the price and rolled out games people wanted to play — it looked like all the prognosticating pundits might prove right.


      But the 3DS in 2013 is Nintendo’s comeback story: not a Virtual Boy after all, and finally living up to its namesake (and what a namesake: the DS family’s on the verge of knocking Sony’s PlayStation 2 from its all-time bestselling perch). The reason why’s no head-scratcher: ”Software drives hardware,” said Nintendo America president and COO Reggie Fils-Aime in a recent Forbes interview. Obvious, but it bears repeating as early adopters pour money into shiny new platforms based on promises and hypotheticals.


      By contrast, the 3DS is signed, sealed and delivered heading into the holiday, with the strongest lineup of any game device — smartphone, tablet or otherwise. That, I’d wager, is what’s behind its sales momentum — from Animal Crossing: New Leaf to Pokemon X & Y to Zelda: A Link Between Worlds — helping the 3DS close on 40 million units sold worldwide.


      The Wii U doesn’t have quite as many run-out-and-buy games as we kick off its second year, but its best and brightest in 2013 make the competition’s next-gen roster look a little like the bullets Hugo Weaving fires at Keanu Reeves during the Matrix‘s denouement. That, and the system’s 2014 lineup isn’t messing around, with exclusives I wouldn’t miss for a game console 10 times as powerful. This is why, if I had to choose between the PS4, Wii U and Xbox One today, no question about it…


      I’d pick the Wii U.


      Because it has the games you want to play now.


      There is no Super Mario 3D World on the Xbox One or PlayStation 4, nor a LEGO City Undercover, nor a Zelda: Wind Waker HD, nor a Pikmin 3, nor a Wonderful 101. Not even close. Sony and Microsoft’s first-party games aren’t bad, but stuff like Ryse: Son of Rome and Killzone: Shadow Fall are more about showmanship and visual razzle-dazzle than drawing you in with superlative, memorable gameplay. That, and most of the third-party launch games are available on the older systems; the only must-buy for me — Assassin’s Creed IV: Black Flag — is on the Wii U, too.


      There’s an argument for Forza Motorsport 5, to be fair (it’s an Xbox One exclusive), but it’s a racing game, and if you don’t really, really dig sim-style racing games, it’s no reason to spend $560 on a game system, and it certainly doesn’t have the all-play appeal of a Super Mario 3D World or Zelda: Wind Waker HD.


      nd it’ll have the games you want to play next year.

       

      I’m generalizing here, because maybe you’ve really, truly been on tenterhooks for years just to play inFamous: Second Son on the PS4, or to dive into yet another massively online first-person shooter like Titanfall on the Xbox One. But 2014′s shaping up to be a banner year for the Wii U: Bayonetta 2, Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze, Mario Kart 8, Super Smash Bros. U and the game I most want to play on any platform after 2012′s Xenoblade Chronicles — Monolith’s X.

       

      That’s just the confirmed-for-2014 stuff. There’s Yarn Yoshi, Shin Megami Tensei X Fire Emblem, perhaps an English port of Dragon Quest X, to say nothing of potential announcements Nintendo’s saving for next year, say new blood in the Zelda, Metroid or Super Mario Galaxy vein.

       

      The Wii U GamePad is a portable console.

       

      Mind you, there’s no killer second-screen app yet — not Nintendo Land, not Wii Party U — that makes the whole tablet-gaming thing feel as revolutionary as the thumbstick on the Nintendo 64 controller or the Wii Remote and Nunchuk in their day, but that’s not why you’ll appreciate Nintendo’s gamepad/tablet. This is: playing Wii U games without your TV.

       

      The Wii U GamePad’s screen is 6.2 inches diagonal, more than an inch larger than the PS Vita’s, and when it comes to ergonomics — in particular the GamePad’s proper full-sized thumbsticks — the GamePad smokes Sony’s handheld. Yes, you have to be pretty much in the same room as the Wii U for GamePad-play to work properly, but I use the feature enough at this point (with a burgeoning family invading my game space) that not having the option to snap off and step away from the TV feels regressive and even prohibitive at this point.

       

      It’s just $300 — $100 less than the PS4 and $200 less than the Xbox One.

       

      “Thanks, math genius.” (You’re welcome.) But in seriousness, $100-$200 equals a bunch of games, or accessories, or annual subscription fees to services like Netflix and Hulu Plus. Price differentials talk, and I suspect this one’s going to say plenty to parents looking to fill Christmas quotas. For what you’d pay just to own the barebones versions of Microsoft’s and Sony’s systems, you could have a tricked out Wii U, games and all. There’s no reason you can’t pick up a PS4 or Xbox One down the road, so why spend all your money on promises and potential that Nintendo’s already made good on?

       

      There’s no annual subscription fee.

       

      The total cost to own a PlayStation 4? Games and accessories aside, you’re looking at $400 for the system plus $50 a year to access essential services like online multiplayer. Microsoft’s Xbox One is pricier still: $500 for the system, plus $60 a year for the same. Nintendo charges nothing for its online ecosystem, making its total cost of ownership $300, full stop. $50-$60 doesn’t sound like much, but this stuff adds up (factor in what you’re paying for Netflix or Hulu Plus or Amazon Prime subs). Also, for $50-$60, you could buy a game that might yield 20, 30, 40 or more hours of play.

       

      It’s high-def enough.

       

      Wii U games generally output at 720p, or 1280-by-720 pixels. That’s the resolution a preponderance of people’s flat-screens run natively in 2013, which means having a console that can output at 1080p (1920-by-1080 pixels) for these folks is pointless. Even if you have a 1080p set, the Wii U’s games look fantastic upscaled (just like the Xbox One’s, many of which also run at 720p). Assuming you’re not a mindless, slavering graphics wonk, you’d probably agree that artful games trump visually muscular ones, bar none. Which would you rather play: a superlative new Zelda at 720p, or another military/aliens/post-apocalyptic-themed shooter in another near-future/dystopian/sci-fi setting where the story parses like the Cliffs Notes version of a Michael Bay movie at 1080p?

       

      [Update: 720p isn't a hard limit, and yes, I realize a handful of Wii U games output at 1080p today; I meant 720p is where you're going to see most titles land.]

       

      Wii U games are cheaper on balance.

       

      Not in all instances, and you’ll still pay $60 for premium titles like Super Mario 3D World, but the Wii U has the most non-indie sub-$60 games today, from New Super Luigi U and The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker HD to LEGO City: Undercover, Nintendo Land and Wii Party U. In other words, you’ll spend less on Wii U games overall than you would buying non-indie PS4 or Xbox One titles.

       

      Nintendo has the Virtual Console and Wii backward-compatiblity. Sony and Microsoft have nada.

       

      The PS4 plays PS4 games and the Xbox One plays Xbox One games — that’s it at launch. The Wii U? Wii U games of course, but also the entire Wii library (over 1,000 and counting), as well as NES and Super NES classics via the Virtual Console, from Super Metroid to F-Zero and Earthbound to Super Mario Bros. 3.

       

      Yes, Sony’s promised streaming game support in 2014 to fold in backward compatibility, but the service has some pretty serious caveats: visual artifacts and total picture degradation if your Internet connection wavers, plus you have to be online, by definition, to play.

       

      It has a decent indie lineup, too.

       

      If you’re an indie fan, the Wii U’s ready to dish: Cloudberry Kingdom, Trine 2: Director’s Cut, Nano Assault Neo, The Cave, Bit.Trip Presents Runner2: Future Legend of Rhythm Alien, Little Inferno, Mutant Mudds Deluxe and TNT Racers – Nitro Machines Edition. And in August, Nintendo America business honcho Dan Adelman said to look for two dozen or more indie games on the system’s e-shelves before year’s end.

       

      It’s more than just a game system.

       

      Most consoles are nowadays, but the Wii U has a few unique tricks up its sleeve: You can use the Wii U GamePad as a TV remote or scan information about programs (or sports events, updated in real time) while they’re playing on your TV screen. You can also use the GamePad as a portable TV of sorts, watching programs on it while someone else is using the television.

       

      That said, Nintendo still has plenty of work to do.

       

      Like dropping the system price again.

       

      I don’t know what Nintendo’s making or losing on each Wii U sold, and I’m guessing Reggie Fils-Aime might call me nuts (or badly confused), but $200 sounds about right to really turn the Wii U’s sales trickle into a landslide. Pull Nintendo Land out of the box if you have to, or create a $250 bundle with Super Mario 3D World as the pack-in. But $300 feels steep for a Nintendo console. I don’t want to be that annoying know-it-all price pundit (who doesn’t know anything, really, sitting outside Nintendo’s walled garden), but put it this way: We’d be having a very different conversation about the Wii today had Nintendo opted instead to roll it out at $350 back in 2006.

       

      And it needs a killer Zelda or Metroid or new Nintendo IP we haven’t seen before, ASAP.

       

      Remind us why you’re Nintendo, Nintendo. Work your magic. Show us what your next Zelda or Metroid looks like because those are beloved evergreen franchises, then show us what next-gen gaming’s really about (which is to say so much more than this facile obsession with graphics and horsepower).

       

      And it needs more third-party games.

       

       

      Can Nintendo subsist on Nintendo first-party games alone? Sure…you know, if Nintendo clones its top developers times a thousand and somehow churns out top-tier games every 12 months. Barring this, Nintendo needs more third-party standouts. I don’t mean third-party ports of Xbox One or PS4 games, because those systems are too different, architecturally, and Nintendo doesn’t need any “bottom-end version” stigma. I’m talking great third-party exclusives, like LEGO City Undercover or The Wonderful 101. Stuff no one else has. More of that, please.

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          iivrruummii

          TLDR; Keep justifying your poor choice.  I am happy with my console, the Xbox One.  Forza Motorsport 5 was worth the $580 even if it doesn't have the cars or tracks that I enjoyed racing.  It is actually more exciting to race online because it isn't really dominated by glitched cars.

           

          Ya the Wii U is doing worse than the Dreamcast, which got discontinued after around 2 years, I wonder what will happen with the Wii U...maybe will get discontinued next year if it doesn't improve?

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              why are you posting in wii U then if you have an xbox one?

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                  iivrruummii

                  Why is the OP poster talking about the Xbox One and PS4 when they have a Wii U?

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                    cranium2001

                    Why do you care? This is a cod forum. Most respectable people in here including iivrruummii come here with open minds. We don't care what system someone plays. I've had most of them. If you can't appreciate his opinion then stay in your driving lane and don't bother passing anyone.

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                        Lol  dont be a hypocrit. telling me what to do after telling me not to do that.  Plus xbone has alot of issue with it  as with collecting information and selling it off.  Ps4 Is pretty good except for a bit of a disk drive issue and cord issue. PC is always fun.  I am replying to  someone  Who's blatantly saying  the system we like is crap. unlike the original post only said the positives of why its Better than the others not so much saying they are poop.  So whose really the ones who should be staying their own lane? You both.

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                      nintendon't

                      Eh, I would agree the Wii U is bad, but the Xbone is looking like a crappy choice as well with problems like sub 1080p games, horrible upscale filter, weaker hardware for a higher price, broken party chat, horrible UI, and lack of interesting first party games (Halo is dead without Bungie), among other issues.

                       

                      PS4 or PC are the only "good" choices this gen.

                       

                      Also DON'T YOU EVER EVER EVER taint the Dreamcast's name again by comparing it to the Wii U. The Dreamcast died young but at least it had tons of awesome games as well as being ahead of its time with plenty of innovations.

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                          iivrruummii

                          Sub 1080p games?  Forza is 1080p/60fps and runs great.  Broken party chat?  Works perfectly for me.  UI is new and different but is quite complicated if you don't use Kinect which works quite well.  Lack of first party games?  PS4 had no games either that were interesting.

                           

                          Most of the problems with the console can be fixed.  Lack of games is up to the developers and Microsoft has 10+ different studios working on games right now.  I am not disappointed buying the Xbox One.  Forza is worth every single penny.

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                              nintendon't

                              Forza is the only 1080p game on Xbone I believe, everything else is 720p/900p upscaled, Almost everything on PS4 is 1080p except for Battlefield. The party chat is broken in the sense that it's not as seamless as 360/PS4, I read it kicks you out on some games or forces you to all be on the same game for it to work. Might be wrong though.

                               

                              Not trying to insult your console choice or anything, just don't throw stones in a glass house.

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                                  iivrruummii

                                  Party chat works quite well, really no different than on the X360.  The only thing that is different is the menu for it.  It may take some getting used to but it works.  As for the games only being a certain resolution, games started the 360/PS3 generation at 420p and they are now 720p, so only time can tell.  Either way the Xbox One is easily capable of 1080p/60fps, but the developers need more time developing for it to optimize it.

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                              like2nap03

                              iivrruummii wrote:

                               

                              TLDR; Keep justifying your poor choice.  I am happy with my console, the Xbox One.  Forza Motorsport 5 was worth the $580 even if it doesn't have the cars or tracks that I enjoyed racing.  It is actually more exciting to race online because it isn't really dominated by glitched cars.

                               

                              Ya the Wii U is doing worse than the Dreamcast, which got discontinued after around 2 years, I wonder what will happen with the Wii U...maybe will get discontinued next year if it doesn't improve?

                              A racing game is worth $580.  lol What?

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                              over here in canada  they are pricing down deluxe wii U to 249 And the white ones for 219$

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                                NoLifeKing32

                                Didnt even read past "This could have been Nintendo's year." We havent gone into a year where that was even remotely possible since the 90s, and we likely never will again. 2013 was the year of the PS3, 2014 and beyond will be the years of PS4 or X1. Good try tho.

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                                  AsianSensation97

                                  Main reason why I got a Wii U is because its way cheaper. First of all, free online means save $60 a year which equals about 2 games for me, and on an average year I get maybe 2 games. That means if I got a ps4/xbox one I'd be getting so much less software. Then there's the $100 less upfront cost which equals another 2-3 games. Also I don't have to buy more controllers because I can use my wii motes, 2 controllers@$60 each means another 3-4 games. That means that with the same money just to get a ps4 I can build a huge game library with the Wii U. Oh and Xbox One is another $100 for kinect which isn;t as good as the wii remote for motion gaming(at least in my experience), which equals another two games. Plus WIi U comes bundled with games as well. Of course lots of people argue that they have plenty of money and don't care that the Wii U is cheaper. Well in that case why not do PC gaming? PC gaming is pretty much superior to Xbox One/PS4 is every regard that I can think of.

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                                    barolb

                                    The games on Nintendo platforms are what interest you, not what games everyone will likely as anybody can have different preferences. As of black friday i now own a Wii, Wii U, PS3 and 360. Do i like one better than the other? Of course i spent the most time on the Wii out of all these consoles, but after playing games on each of them i can say with certainty that i like ALL of them. Instead of fan flaming i'm enjoying the riches that are on all consoles.

                                     

                                    Your post is also stated for right now. It's not to say that there will be great games coming for PS4 and Xbox One in the future. Quantum Break? That looks like a REALLY good game, even if it's unconventional i like the concept of it. Titanfall is also going to be on PC and 360, but was showcased on Xbox One (it's NOT an exclusive, Respawn said they may port it to PS4 after initial development is done). These games are only announced games that we know of. The PS4 and Xbox One are still young, and they will get a handful of good games in the following months of this upcoming year, and the following year. The Wii U will too, but they, being Nintendo, will have to make it happen. They need to win back third party developers' trust in their brand.

                                     

                                    Although it's easy to fire shots at Microsoft, they are spending 1B on game development for Xbox One. Tell me how that's not trying to support your platform. Sony fired shots at Microsoft and got a ton of support on their side (yes, it's hilarious looking back on it but both consoles are equally successful).

                                     

                                     

                                    Until i finish up the majority of my video game backlog, i'm not buying another console. I already bought the 360, so i really don't need another console dividing up my time further. Besides, there are stills tons and tons of games to play on the Wii, PS3 and 360 that i don't have or played yet.

                                     

                                    My backlog was originally 49 games, but i downsized it to 42 games over the past 2.5 weeks. My book reading backlog is also 30+ games long. For the past 5 days i've been reading 30-60 pages of a book i'm working on each day (hoping to reach 120 pages a day before new years) and i managed to just complete one book last night. Surprisingly, one would think i couldn't maintain a in-person social life while doing this stuff, but i actually have been XD Efficiency is a beautiful thing

                                     

                                     

                                    Edit: To make note, i'm not implying that price doesn't matter, but the fact that there are good games on all consoles means that a person could go play on one console, and enjoy the games on it just as much if they were to go play on another console. What stops this is brand loyalty and object-discriminatory remarks and feelings against a foreign brand, one of which the person is not use to.

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                                      like2nap03

                                      Whether your'e a Nintendo fan or not, the Wii U has some great games.  I've got several.  Maybe it's because of all those years playing games the same way that I like what Nintendo does with the different controllers.  The Wii just made sense to me.  Sure there's a lot of shovelware as they call it on the Wii, but there's also a lot of hidden gems.  Really great games that hardly anyone knows about.  Skycrawlers: Innoncent Aces for one.  AWESOME playing that with motion controls . Especially if you've ever flown a plane before.  It doesn't get any closer to realism for flight simulation on a console than what that game offered.  I like the immersion that motion controls can bring if done correctly.

                                       

                                      I feel the same about Wii U.  Of course I love FPS games with pointer controls, but I also love playing games with the gamepad.  Having maps, menus, weapon/armor loadouts etc available on the gamepad without having to pause the game is just awesome.  It doesn't sound awesome.  I don't know how to make it sound awesome, but try it.  It's really awesome.  Darksiders 2.  It's like a dark version of Zelda with way more RPG elements.  Playing that with the gamepad is just really great.  Very good game.  I loved Zombi U.  It wasn't perfect, but what they did with the gamepad was just great.  Having to stop and look at it while you dig through your inventory cool and different.  It was awkward and clunky, but that was the point.  You're not a soldier.  You're a random person carrying a backpack.  The game was designed to make you panic.  Not make you feel like you could run through guns blazing, and they did a great job of that.

                                       

                                      I don't care about the TV and video stuff these consoles do.  I want unique and different game experiences.  Does the Xbox one have better graphics?  Yes, but you're still just holding a controller and twiddling your thumbs.  I did that for over 20 years.  I wanted something new and different.  Which is why I bought the Nintendo consoles.  I did just buy a used 360 for real cheap.  And I'll buy a bunch of used games for it, but nothing about that console, or the games, make them worth full price to me and right now I feel the same about the Xbox one and PS4.  I might get one later on when the price goes down though, but no way I'm paying full price for them.  Actually I'm not getting an Xbox One at all.  All the crap Microsoft tried to pull before launch.  yeah, I'm not supporting that.  I don't care if they changed their minds.

                                       

                                      Edit: This wasn't directed at anyone in particular.  I just replied to the OP and tossed out why I bought a Wii/Wii U. 

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                                        The PS4 and XB1 will decimate the Wii U in sales this generation lmao.

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                                          wiiucastiel

                                          I just don't get why people think the wii u isn't on par with xbone or ps4. I have a ps3/ps4. (Won the ps4 at a Christmas party at work) love the infamous series and farcry and the last of us.  But.  If nintendo isn't a threat why does it competition attempt to copy nintendo games / devices?   #playstation move , PlayStation all stars,  xbox kinetic ,

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                                            SinCaraxx

                                            I can't believe Im gonna say this to castiel but...I agree...

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                                              Too much fan boyism. All consoles are great. They all have their strengths and weaknesses. This sucks that this is the wii u ghost forum and people talk about other consoles. Shame. Since this is a Call of Duty Ghost forum for wii u ill comment about that.  I own this game on 3 consoles ps3/360/wii u. I started out with ps360 versions. I rented this to test.  Instantly listed the ps360 versions on ebay. Wii u has some kick ass controls. The wiimote is fantastic and Treyarch did an amazing job with this game. Im hooked after I renturned the rental I bought the wii u version. With the increased console sales lately the online community is growing and lots of fun.