28 Replies Latest reply: Jan 27, 2014 10:42 PM by bigjon00 RSS

    Snipers MUST be addressed next patch

    AlteredVista

      Snipers are really breaking this game right now for my friends, a lot of people I play with, and myself. What you did earlier was a worthless placebo. Snipers 1) should have slow ADS 2) should flinch a lot when shot to where they have to switch to a pistol in close range to get the kill

       

      It's not a hard concept. Fix the snipers. We have been asking for this since MW2. Hell just give us the Black Ops 1 snipers. Black Ops 2 got ruined because of snipers. Prepare for your game to suffer the same fate if you don't do anything!

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          SitRepPro

          Up your game or play Heavy Duty.

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            I know right? They should fix the Assault Rifles too. It's totally BS how they have little to no recoil and their TTK is faster than Sniper Rifles. This is ruining the game for all of my friends!

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                Lane75691

                I really don't see what the big deal with snipers is. I like to snipe. Nothing better than other players crying because they can't find me.

                 

                Do I snipe all the time? Nope. I know when I wanna snipe and when I wanna use an AK.

                 

                NOthing i enjoy enjoy more though than being in same match with a lot of snipers.

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                    daddybggamer

                    On any particular map if you know there is a sniper sitting there waiting for a victim, why is it that the person that died gets upset that they got picked off trying to get the little bugger. Or better yet if that person got sniped in a spawn trap situation they get really irate and start calling the sniper all kinds of names and uses inappropriate language after the game ends. Folks, it is just a game! I fall victim to a sniper more times than I can care to. Just face it the sniper found a great spot to hide out and we are the lambs for the slaughter when we pop our heads out to look for him. The purpose of the sniper is to hide and pick everybody off at their leisure. Remember that.

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                    Tactics74

                    A OHK weapon has a zero TTK, how does an AR have a lower TTK? Even if you add in the .1ms ADS advantage that a AR has, none of them have faster TTK's.

                     

                    But I do agree the AR's are easy ass laser-beams.

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                    NoLifeKing32

                    You know, I'm going to make a thread just like this, and its going to be accurate.

                     

                    Edit - Meh, nevermind, there are enough threads about it. What really needs to be fixed is obviously the spawns, I am shocked they didn't release a patch before the DLC came out. But the spawns are what is really ruining the game. 

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                      Well its what the community wants and just because you and your friends get killed by snipers doesn't mean we have to go back to bo2  aka the dark ages.

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                        When people complain about Snipers, Shotguns and the like, I think they are just confessing that they are easily frustrated and can't handle being killed by OHK weapons. They also have likely never tried them for themselves long enough to gain some perspective.

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                          EJKHunter

                          Slow ADS? Other than my USR, which has the most mobility of all four, I have to put Quickdraw on the same class when I use any other sniper because they are so dirt slow that you can't make a correction shot when your life depends on it (except in very slim instances)... yes, it will always work better if you stay in ADS, but you can't always do that if you intend to remain a public enemy on the field... I'm not talking that one sniper sitting on a ledge who has a great view.. he's easy to drop when you realize where he is.. I'm talking the tactical sniper who moves about from bush to heather to grassy knoll with no particular pattern.. the one who during those spaces of time while briefly mobile he needs to have at least a scrap of a chance at self defense.. because if you're any sort of true sniper (aka, NOT a quickscoper) then you forgo a secondary and all equipment except maybe a single IED.. more as a warning device since people tend to just shoot them anyway... and run Specialist so you can max stealth and utility perks in order to prolong your already limited life in terms of defense... ya know, real snipers who make it their goal to nail someone and hear "Where... the hell was-" just before they cut off... lol then the next time they hit that same person rather than frusteration they'll begin to hear things like "I simply don't know where that gu-" or "Nice shot... no idea where you ar-" and "I'm fairly sure that tree just shot me..."

                           

                          Maybe that's just self pride when I decide to snipe.. I do it for real lol I make overwatch and tactical strategy my playing field... if I do it right, I die very little if at all.. I might only come out with 7-8 kills, but the people that I nail will all have something to say when we get back to the lobby.. meaning I left an impression lol the best are the ones who don't get sore about it and simply want to know where you were... and you tell them five to seven possible locations, depending what time during the match they're referring to lol

                           

                          So no, anybody whining about legit snipers just needs to bite the bullet because even (actually, especially) on Battlefield, there's always at least one damn good sniper on the enemy team who forgoes a noticeable kill total to pick and chose the people causing the most threat to his team's victory by penciling them in for an appointment with a 7.62 round to their left central incisor


                          They need to correct it so if you so much as budge the camera stick while going ADS you drop straight out of it, which would make Quickscoping pretty much impossible since you'd just wind up hipfiring at the ground 99% of the time if they did that

                           

                          lol

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                              captain_howdy69

                              EJKHunter wrote:

                               

                              Slow ADS? Other than my USR, which has the most mobility of all four, I have to put Quickdraw on the same class when I use any other sniper because they are so dirt slow that you can't make a correction shot when your life depends on it (except in very slim instances)... yes, it will always work better if you stay in ADS, but you can't always do that if you intend to remain a public enemy on the field... I'm not talking that one sniper sitting on a ledge who has a great view.. he's easy to drop when you realize where he is.. I'm talking the tactical sniper who moves about from bush to heather to grassy knoll with no particular pattern.. the one who during those spaces of time while briefly mobile he needs to have at least a scrap of a chance at self defense.. because if you're any sort of true sniper (aka, NOT a quickscoper) then you forgo a secondary and all equipment except maybe a single IED.. more as a warning device since people tend to just shoot them anyway... and run Specialist so you can max stealth and utility perks in order to prolong your already limited life in terms of defense... ya know, real snipers who make it their goal to nail someone and hear "Where... the hell was-" just before they cut off... lol then the next time they hit that same person rather than frusteration they'll begin to hear things like "I simply don't know where that gu-" or "Nice shot... no idea where you ar-" and "I'm fairly sure that tree just shot me..."

                               

                              Maybe that's just self pride when I decide to snipe.. I do it for real lol I make overwatch and tactical strategy my playing field... if I do it right, I die very little if at all.. I might only come out with 7-8 kills, but the people that I nail will all have something to say when we get back to the lobby.. meaning I left an impression lol the best are the ones who don't get sore about it and simply want to know where you were... and you tell them five to seven possible locations, depending what time during the match they're referring to lol

                               

                              So no, anybody whining about legit snipers just needs to bite the bullet because even (actually, especially) on Battlefield, there's always at least one damn good sniper on the enemy team who forgoes a noticeable kill total to pick and chose the people causing the most threat to his team's victory by penciling them in for an appointment with a 7.62 round to their left central incisor


                              They need to correct it so if you so much as budge the camera stick while going ADS you drop straight out of it, which would make Quickscoping pretty much impossible since you'd just wind up hipfiring at the ground 99% of the time if they did that

                               

                              lol

                              Agreed.
                              Another thing they could do is just remove absolutely all aim assist from sniper rifles. If you even hint to a quick-scoper that aim assist is why they got the kill, they lose their **** and start going off about how aim assist doesn't do anything etc. If that's the case and it's all just pure, pinpoint accuracy and skill based close quarters awesomeness when quick-scoping, they won't mind if they take it away right?

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                                  EJKHunter

                                  It's a proven fact aim-assist contributes to 90% of quickscoping.. the other ten percent are those fast scope shots that quite honestly is almost exclusively luck based.. I know when I "quickscope", as I'll falsely call it, a panic shot and nail the dude in the chest and drop him it had nothing to do with skill lol it was entirely luck that ADS resolved with the crosshairs over his body.. quickscoping is utilizing aim-assist "tugs", smacking the left trigger, and pulling the right one just as ADS resolves.. what happens is your crosshairs lock onto your target during the blurred sequence and because you hit the right trigger fast enough you're awarded with one hell of a BS kill lol

                                   

                                  Like I said, all they have to do is code ADS with sniper/magnification scopes (sniper and in this game's case default marksmen scopes) so that the moment you hit the left trigger and the sequence starts, if you do anything else (touch either stick to adjust movement or aim) it instantly drops you back to hip-fire and cancels the ADS

                                   

                                  It really isn't a difficult thing to do, which leaves me with that unfriendly belief that some of the very issues that lead to "cheesy" or "cheap" kills, are probably utilized by the devs and tester teams on a common basis... or in this game's case, the eSport teams utilize such tactics commonly.. which is why they won't fix them ever either.. otherwise, they have no excuse not to.. in terms of gameplay logic, ADS for a sniper scope has been broken for 8 years, complained about for 8 years, and ignored for 8 years... so I'm again left with my above assumption lol

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                                DalekonDrugs

                                I hate snipers however they are not the issue in this game and other things are more important I shall list them.

                                 

                                AK-12: No recoil and high damage stupid idea.

                                MTAR-X: A sub machine gun with assault rifle damage and recoil with sub machine gun characteristics does way too much.

                                Danger close: No counter as blast shield gets messed up by it.

                                 

                                Snipers problem and solution: Problem is the quick scoping take the element out. Increasing flinch and making focus less useful is a bad idea and focus should be there because people who snipe properly need focus.

                                Quick draw is the issue and should simply have half of the effect it currently has on snipers this is the issue not focus.

                                 

                                Yes I did not mention the Remington being OP because it is not it has less ammo in capacity balanced.

                                 

                                Like I said I hate snipers but currently those 3 elements I pointed out are the issues the snipers are a annoyance I can put up with. 

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                                  iivrruummii

                                  There is nothing wrong with Ghosts's snipers.

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                                    The sniping in COD has always been unrealistic and "broken". They shouldn't be able to quickscope. That is the only thing they need to fix is quickscoping and all will be well.

                                     

                                     

                                    One of my petpeeves is when I am shooting a sniper and all he does is raise his scope and shoot me in a split second. It is impossible for a sniper to raise his scope and aim while being shot in the chest with an AR in real life. BUT they have to be careful because if they take away too much of the snipers abilities then snipers will become useless.

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                                      veilofmaya

                                      I don't think you quite get it. No matter what they do to the snipers, whether it be nerfing ads or damage or flinch, people are still going to use them.

                                      Get over it, they've been in every game to date, why are you still complaining?

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                                          THExVeng3anc3

                                          Consider it this way: Snipers have 3 less perk slots that are available to them, because quickdraw is on every single quickscoper class in Ghosts.  Quickscopers often don't use lethals, tacticals, or secondaries for this reason. 

                                           

                                          Plus, the best quickscopers in the world have a KD of about 1.7 - 2.0, when the best MLG professionals out there have upwards of 3.0 KD ratios.

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                                          Shadowelite555

                                          Another sniper hate thread. Whats wrong with sniping? Honestly. Today, I got way too many BS hit markers with the Chrome-lined L115 Sniper Rifle, so dont tell me snipers are ruining game. Snipers were already majorly nerfed, and it wasn't a placebo. Dont nerf snipers again; they are already harder to use than hell now.

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                                            bigjon00

                                            ready up and fast aim or any perk that makes you fast aiming should be disabled with any sniper in the game . there sorted.