27 Replies Latest reply on May 15, 2014 12:06 PM by Dweebys RSS

    Engineer Upgrade is Useless?

      Maybe I simply haven't used it enough, but this upgrade for the Engineer seems ridiculous.

      I put it up whilst repairing the drill, and scorpions shooting their stuff, still penetrated the stasis field.

       

      On a separate time on Nightfall, a similar thing happened. A teammate was in the "dome" and was being attacked by a scout from behind. He was definitely fully in the dome.

       

      Thirdly, even though it seems to work against Rhino's, it doesn't fully. I have only tested it once on a rhino, but here's what happened: rhino started to attack me. I put the stasis up. Rhino backs off from me and starts chasing one of my teammates. My teammate is stood next to the dome and not in it, but as the rhino is smashing the ground, it takes damage off me.

       

       

      I can understand if you place the dome on top of scorpion gas clouds, then you're still going to get hurt because it was there already, but scorpions shouldn't be able to penetrate the dome with their sling shot stuff.

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          If it's the scorpion gas that is the issue, which it seems to be... Then go with the Medic, or keep a trophy handy.

          Last Edited: Apr 10, 2014 11:21 PM
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            The Engineer stasis field only acts as a repellent, it's not a force field, so it does not protect you from scorpion gas. The best way to use it is to anticipate their movement. If you see a horde of aliens running towards you (if you have low health ), you need to deploy it before they get inside the stasis field's radius. I managed to push rhinos toward my friend just for fun twice in the game. The key point is to deploy it before they get next to you.

            Last Edited: Apr 11, 2014 4:09 AM
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                I actually tried it again on Nightfall since that's the only map I play as Engineer.

                 

                It did come in handy several times, especially when there are no Scorpions around, or the scorpions are being killed by the electric trap in the facility. One instance of where I used it, was in the compound. I was at low health and my team couldn't get armor to me in time. I had a rhino and phantom and a couple of hunters behind me, so I activated it, and then voila it repelled them. So it definitely does have its uses.

                 

                I seriously don't think I will ever use Tank though. You need to make sure your team is a good team and fast at killing.I mean if you have lots of enemies and use the tank upgrade to distract them, then your 10 seconds thing runs out before your team has killed most or all, you're screwed are yo not? Cos you'd be surrounded by Cryptids. Or is that not how it works?

                Last Edited: Apr 11, 2014 11:21 PM
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                    Tank upgrade is only useful if your whole team is being swarmed and don't have a flare. Once you get all the aliens around you, you can spam venom x, pipe bomb, etc. to kill them off. It has its pros, but my crew don't really need it cause we rarely get into that situation. So depending on your team, it still might come in handy.

                    Last Edited: Apr 12, 2014 12:17 AM
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                      Yeah the Tank ability seems to turn him into a flare with fists! I'd probably finish the powerup with a sprint around a trap to clear out any stragglers.

                      Last Edited: May 15, 2014 2:12 AM
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                    I've been saving up for this and was going to purchase today.. more positives to it than negatives?

                    Last Edited: Apr 11, 2014 8:17 AM
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                        If you're the engineer for your crew/team, I would suggest getting it. It does help out a bit if you get the Kill 10 Aliens Without Taking Damage challenge. If your team doesn't have a flare, have them run next to you and deploy the stasis field (spam venom X). You'll get most of your kills from the two electric container before the crane and also outside area before the laboratory. You'll also get more bullets/damage fighting the Kraken if you use the turrets.

                        Last Edited: Apr 11, 2014 11:21 AM
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                        i feel the tank upgrade is useless as well. i maxed it out activated it and counted 10 mississippi and it ran out...pretty short for having tank maxed out i think. i was hoping for it to last at least 30 seconds. when i had it half upgraded i emptied 1 mag of an smg w rapid fire, reloaded and it ran out...

                        Last Edited: Apr 11, 2014 9:06 AM
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                          So how much do the class upgrades cost? I'm trying to figure out how many teeth I need to save for when Mayday comes to PS3.

                          Last Edited: Apr 11, 2014 9:12 AM
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                            It is kept going by repairing the drill hence it being an ENGINEER ability, it is not a bad ability. It is meant for protecting the player repairing the drill. You might find that if you activate it whilst repairing the drill that it becomes more effective and lasts that bit longer. I can say it is a negative thing that it is quite useless whilst away from the drill due to it being active for a small amount of time but its the way the game goes. If you want a good ability then get medic or weapon specialist abilities.

                            Last Edited: Apr 12, 2014 3:06 AM
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                              Also remember that the shield only keeps things the shoot you or directly hit you out, stuff like rhino slams and scorpion  gas clouds can still hit you no matter what. The stasis field does not make you invincible! Read the description of the ability again because it certainly doesn't say you are invulnerable only it just makes cryptids more interested in chomping at your teammates rather than you, you can still take damage from cryptids attacking your mates. The idea is to know when and where to use it, if your team is well organised then you should not have to worry about getting surrounded by enemies, heck you wouldn't even need the ability. A suggestion would be to never stay out in the open with the stasis field on as that's when your going to regret it when you see a hundred cryptids waiting for your ability to wear off.

                              Last Edited: Apr 12, 2014 3:15 AM
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                                  " if your team is well organised then you should not have to worry about getting surrounded by enemies"

                                  - when i'm with people who are on my friends list, that kind of thing never happens, but if I am with randoms, then it seems to happen often enough because everyone is all over the place, even if you suggest not to do something etc.

                                  Last Edited: Apr 12, 2014 6:41 AM
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                                  You know, the engineer upgrade would be improved it it also automatically repaired the drill in the stasis field the same way the medic ability automatically revives.

                                  Last Edited: Apr 12, 2014 7:09 AM
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                                    The best use for this is when you are trying to get a higher score. Drill protection points are the best way to increase your score on any extinction map. Other than just using it to keep hunters and scouts off the drill you might as well just use the medic class with the medic ability since it is probably the best ability of the four.

                                    Last Edited: Apr 13, 2014 5:17 PM
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                                        The point is, Engineer's upgrade feels like it isn't as much help as the medic's, or even the tank's and weapon's.

                                        Tank is a human flare, saving teams when they feel over run, and reviving someone without worrying about their health.

                                        The medic can simply run over everybody and revive them like nothing in tight spots, and basically keeps himself from going down.

                                        At least the weapon specialist can dish out crazy damage

                                        But if the engineer needs to repair the drill, or is even the last one up, the 'Field" wont even be of much use.

                                        Ive used it many times and I still get taken out by, seekers, scorpions, rhinos and whatever else.

                                        Helps a little, but can't compare to medic or tank.

                                        Last Edited: Apr 19, 2014 6:26 PM
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                                        I did not read but the first 2 posts, so I'm sorry if someone has already said this. The stasis field upgrade specifically says it keeps Cryptids out. It doesn't say it stops damage from them in any way. From experience, I have noticed something. If you activate it while an alien is right next to you, it will start out inside the field and stay there, attacking you. Rhinos have a lot of 'splash damage', so if you are just close enough inside the field, yeah, will hurt. I run the engineer a lot with the upgrade, and it comes in handy, if used properly. It's best for reviving people when being overrun, assuming you don't have one billion pods from seeders blasting you into oblivion lol. So my personal opinion is, the stasis field is great if used properly, but is not always going to be what you need if the situation isn't right. But I like it.

                                        Last Edited: Apr 19, 2014 9:35 PM
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                                          Its useful but barley, it should at least have the cryptids ignore you even if they do start inside the field. Or repair the drill half or something.

                                          Last Edited: Apr 19, 2014 10:31 PM
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                                            Engineer upgrade should protect and repair the drill, bringing it back to 100 by the time it runs out, and it should also frighten cryptids away, like a reverse flare.  If dropping the engineer upgrade  scattered the cryptids for a short while it would buy the team a few seconds to get their stuff back together.

                                             

                                            If the engi stasis field runs on a timer, then maybe it repairs the drill a certain amount per second, so that a fully upgraded engineer would get it from 0 to 100, but a non upgraded would only get it from 80 to 100, or something like that.  As it is, the specialites aren't that interesting, especially tank and engi.

                                             

                                            For the record, you can get the drill to zero and not lose!  We did it last night, and it was insane. 

                                            Last Edited: Apr 20, 2014 7:51 AM
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                                                I think the Engineer Upgrade does need a bit of a buff, it's the only one that has a single effect. Medic has heal and revive, Weapons guy get's unlimited firing and damage boost to nearby teammates, the tank becomes a human flare and has stun damage yet the Engineer bubble only keeps aliens away from you... so I think you're right, either a boost to the drill repair or like someone said further up the thread, Aliens should ignore you completely meaning they don't fire ranged attacks into it. If you were on a cloud when you used it or similar then you would still take damage, seems fair!

                                                Last Edited: May 15, 2014 2:18 AM
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                                                when I used it it would end up repels aliens. In the hallway with the door and the 1st rhino comes I just put it up and he ran away giving us time to reload and stuff. It seems useful if you need an extra few seconds but I only ran it on one map because mayday isn't very friendly to Engineer class.

                                                Last Edited: May 14, 2014 10:39 AM
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                                                  I had many times being hit from enimies while within the stasis field. mostly scouts and hunters simply walk in!

                                                  Last Edited: May 15, 2014 9:26 AM
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                                                    It doesn't prevent damage. It mostly repels aliens and makes you invisible if your in it kinda. If a rhino is hit a sentry gun next to the bubble you will get hurt because it is splash damage. Projectile and still enter because gas clouds are not aliens, just annoying. Also if you deploy it with aliens next to you and then are in the bubble when it pops up they will still attack sometimes. It takes a second to get used to but it is pretty useful in situations.

                                                     

                                                    Good example kill 10 aliens take no damage. You throw flare but flare is about to run out and still need a few aliens if you pop the skill next to your teammates and everyone is in it the aliens wont come near yall and you can kill the extra and get the challenge.

                                                    Last Edited: May 15, 2014 12:06 PM